Ladycare magnet for menopause symptoms

[sailorsgal]

I was reading about this the other day and wondered if anyone had tried it? Any good?

[BecauseImWorthIt]

They do indeed have to start somewhere, pinklemonade, and so 'welcome to Mumsnet'.

But it did sound like you were trying to use MN to market LadyCare. If you're not, then my apologies.

[pinklemonade211]

Thanks for your comment, i just wanted people to understand that the most recent research done by ladycare is physical evidence that ladycare rebalances the autonomic nervous system therefore it cannot be placebo. Anyway it was the only thing i found to be successful for my menopause symptoms so i am happy to recommend it.

[strawberryjelly]

pink with respect, do you understand what I posted?

It does not appear you do.
The dr who did the research is presumably paid by the makers of the magnet.This means it is not independent.

The most important fact however is that the research is not proven to stand up to strict scientific scrutiny.

If you actually read what he has said he makes assumptions about the cause of hot flushes etc and then makes a connection between this assumed cause and how the magnets could help. If his theory was right, then the NHS would be offering this treatment via GPs and gynaes.

Do you not understand that his "theory" is simply that? They are not peer reviewed, double blind scientific results.

You do not seem to have understood either that he has done other promoting of magnetic products based on unproven evidence which was referred to he Office of Fair Trading. They decided his claims that these products could help were unsubstantiated.

This has nothing to do with him being interested in alternative treatments.
What is did show was that he was talking pseudo-science .

[pinklemonade211]

Yes i understand your point but the NHS are recommending this product and have been for some time now, my doctor was the one who led me to it and bittersweetvictory also said in a previous post her nurse was using it so health care professionals are aware of it. I think if you actually took the time to talk directly to ladycare as i did they can answer all of these doubts you have about their trials and infact a double blind trial was done years ago. I believe i have read the same arcticle about Dr Eccles and at the end of the day that is one mans opinion and assumptons as to why the wording was changed. If you read to the very bottom of the page there are also people saying how good the products are. I would like to know why you are so against this product.

[bittersweetvictory]

Why not just try it strawberryjelly instead of looking for ways to prove it doesnt work ( when it does ) and pinklemonade is right, the NHS is recomending it as an alternative therapy but not willing to pay for it which is understandable when it only costs £20, the nurse at my surgery is now recommending it to everyone having tried it herself after me telling her about it, she actually thanked me.
I live in Scotland so dont have to pay for prescriptions so i could have any amount of HRT and any other stuff drug wise recommended for menopause for free but i havnt even bothered looking into it as id rather pay for the magnet, even if it cost £100 it would still be worth every penny, apart from the no hot flushes and sweats i have no vaginal dryness or itchyness or any of the other symptoms associated with menopause, i do have a bit of bloating but i can live with that but i cant live without my magnet.
Every thing doesnt have to have a scientific explanation, i cant understand why everyone is so against it since its drug free and only costs £20, i bet most people spend a lot more than that per month on vitamins and other stuff ( again dont know what is recommended as i have my magnet )

[strawberryjelly]

pink I am not against the product at all. I have never said that.

What I am against is one dr making claims for a product which are not proven, and who has been taken to the Office of fair Trading for false claims he made on other magnetic products. Don't you see the connection?

Myself and some friends of mine see a gynae privately who is a world expert on meno. he also advocates alternative therapies- such as acupuncture, meditation, herbs, supplements. ayurvedic treatment and more. So I am quite happy to go along with most treatments that might work.

What I am saying is that you appear to be naive in thinking that just because a product is endorsed by one dr, and maybe your own ( you have never said this up till now) that it's proven to work.

I don't really care whethe it works or not but what I do care about are people being taken in by false claims (paid for by the makers of the magnet of course) and false research.

[strawberryjelly]

Published in 2007
Dr Eccles, who plans another trial, says: "There is no doubt the menopause can be a challenging time for women.

"The LadyCare device may prove to be one of the greatest natural solutions for alleviating symptoms."


However, many doctors remain sceptical about the benefits. Research published in the British Medical Journal concluded that any healing effect is likely to be minimal, and can be explained by patients believing in the power of the treatment rather than it really working.

[sailorsgal]

Well I may give it a try. Will let you know how I get on.

[sailorsgal]

Bugger! Just ordered one this morning from boots.

[strawberryjelly]

errrrrr.ladycare- you aren't allowed to advertise here.

[sailorsgal]

they are giving them away for free!

[bittersweetvictory]

Hope it works for you sailorsgal, please tell us how you get on

[TimeForMeIsFree]

I'm just bumping as am interested in how Sailorsgal got on with the Ladycare.

[scotchmist]

I use one and its worked for me, it stopped the hot flushes within hours of wearing it and ive never had a night sweat since, ive been wearing it now for around 7 months, i suffered really badly for about 6 months with sweats and flushes and decided to give it a go after a friend recommended it.

[rockinhippy]

Well I'll be going out to get one tomorrow after reading this THANK YOU - I looked at them the other day, but put it back, but as you say for £20 it really is worth trying & if it works for you, then it might for me too - rather that than HRT (which is a problem with chronic migraine )

I will update in a week or so :)

[rockinhippy]

I'm updating sooner as I'm so impressed - I bought mine yesterday morning,

more I've been recently having horrendously strong hot flushes, hitting me in waves of one after another lasting half hour sometimes, so bad I'm keeping batiste in business as I could easily wash my hair 2-3 times a day

I was out & about with Dd & had a horrendous headache, even the high strength Cocodamol my GP prescribed wasn't touching it - I hadn't actually linked that to menopause, but seems it was, should have realised as the flushes where even worse yesterday morning

Anyway nipped into a loo & attached the Ladycare to my pants - within 20 min my headache had eased right down - so much so i didn't need another dose of Cocodamol - & the hot flushes are just a fraction of what they were, much more tolerable & not leaving me wringing wet with a sweaty head

the only down side was needing to wear pants in bed, but DH tells me I looked like I slept much better as I wasn't flailing around taking covers off & then back on again, as I have been recently.

I did take it off early this morning & guess what I was over heating like hell again & headache back - pants & magnet back on - I'm now feeling much more human

So I'm another one convinced these things can work & HIGHLY RECOMMEND TRYING IT - & no I don't believe its a placebo effect - trust me I'm not one to be that easily swayed -

it works for me, not 100%, but it enough to make it £20 well spent - & thats just with the hot flushes & headache alone - anything else will be a bonus :)

[scotchmist]

It worked for me really quick too rockinhippy the first night after wearing it i didn't have a night sweat, and haven't had one since, the flushes got better after a few hours, ( not lasting so long and not so bad ) after about a week to 10 days they disappeared altogether and again i haven't had one since.
Your comment about the pants made me lol i see it as the only downside as well, ive taken to wearing granny pants so i can get my magnet in the right place so it doesnt fall off.

[scotchmist]

and i dont think its the placebo effect either, i have now been nearly 8 months hot flush and night sweat free, im sure i would have sussed it out by now if it was the placebo effect.

[rockinhippy]

thats brilliant to know Scotchmist - thanks I'm so relieved to find it work as it is, but if its going to get even better then I will be chuffed to bit - I get chronic migraine so the whole HRT thing was a real worry as I apparently have "the wrong type of migraine" so finding something natural that works is a godsend :)

mind you, thinking on it, I shouldn't be that surprised its working, the most useful thing I've found for nausea has been "Sea bands" which are also magnetic & apparently they are recommended by our hospital for Chemo patients - it was a friend on treatment for Cancer who told me about them - so seems the NHS DO endorse magnetic therapy if not yet these :)

[sailorsgal]

I haven't had any hot flushes at night since using the ladycare. Was hoping it would help with other symptoms of menopause but no change there.

[lilylace]

just a word about progesterone cream. I bought two jars of a cream called Wellsprings naturel progesterone cream. It really did work and I started to sleep better and feel very well. But then I noticed that my hair began falling out in handfuls.
I had no idea what was causing it and just hoped that it would stop. After six months I read a blog on an American site about a women who had taken the same cream, with the same symtom had stoped the cream and her hair stoped falling within two days.
I imediately stoped using the cream and my hair stoped shedding. but I had lost half of it.
there is no mention of this side effect in Wellsprings litreture anywhere. I called them on the phone and they offered no help. they just gave me email addresses that didn't work. I was promised that one of their Doctors would call me. A big joke that was, I heared nothing.
I have since found out that progesterone can bind itself to your testosterone and turn into GHT, which is a sort of super testosterone and attack the hair folicals. It's the stuff that caused male patern baldness.
I have spent thousands of pounds trying to solve my hair loss. But there is no solution.It's gone and that is that. I don't look too bad as I still have enough to cover my scalp. But it used to be my crowning glory. I am also a model so it has effected me all the way round.Please,please think twice before buying creams of the internet.

[Lucyinthepie]

I lead a pretty active life. Isn't there a danger it will come undone and fall out the leg of yer jeans?

[ladyponge]

I am 68 and up until 3 years ago I took HRT believing I would take it forever. However my doctor said it was'nt safe. My hot flushes are something to behold. Literally, I am soaked and look like I have washed my hair. I'm thinking of a magnet. Is anyone as old as me and as bad as this. Please help I will be very grateful. Thankyou

[ameliagrey]

How long were you on HRT?

HRT is a case or risks and benefits. MOST drs would agree that 5 years use was relatively low risk and some drs are happy with 10 years. Beyond that, it is often the patient's views on what risks they are willing to take for quality of life.

I am 56 and have been on it for 3 years- my gynae believes 5 years use os safe ( ish) if the benefits are felt to be worth it. After that I know he will allow me to choose- he has told me that when his patients ask what to do, all he can do is give them the stats and the final choice is theirs.

Did you ever have this conversation with your dr?

Have you seen a gynae who is a meno specialist? if not, I'd suggest that before you try aother things- though no reason why you couldn't try the Magnet- everyone is different so worth a go.