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lilly153 · 03/01/2011 14:01

not sure where to post thid but just want some general advice if possible im a lone parent and have a 3yr old
my gas and electric are currently billed but they are billing me well over £100 a month (this is not estimated) so im not sure if im paying for people before me or god knows how they come up with these figures anyways i was going to get prepaid meters in but im scared incase i cant afford to put in enough money if i am usin this much

HOW much do use use per month in your prepaid meters?

i have a 2 bedroom flat, just me and my son im out 3 times a week 9 till 4, i have gas central heating and gas hobs on cooker everything else is electric including shower, i dont have a tumble dryer and hardly ever use microwave and if i do its for 2 to 3 mins to heat up some beans so hardly ever use that

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Lucky78945 · 31/10/2018 17:09

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SleeplessInLondon · 13/01/2011 19:39

ThisIsANiceCage Serves me right for moaning to IRL friends/family about my electricity problems. I should have asked Mumsnet and would have had it sorted much sooner.

Great advice!

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ThisIsANiceCage · 13/01/2011 16:10

Ah, you can get ones that plug into the socket too, that you then plug the TV, etc into.

But I think the link is to one which clips round the mains wire near your Consumer Unit or Fusebox or whatever they're called these days and measures total consumption. Then the display communicates by radio so you can clutch it as you walk round the house going, Hmm.

We've had both, and they were useful in different ways. If you want to examine the consumption of an individual device, the plug in one is good. If you're chasing down a immersion heater in the cellar, the total consumption one is good because you can turn off all "known" devices and see if you're still using juice.

Oh the hours of fun that stretch before you. Grin

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ILovedYou · 13/01/2011 15:33

Thank you both and thanks for the link.

Di i plug the montor into the socket? I'm confused...

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smokinaces · 13/01/2011 15:09

ILovedYou, ThisIsANiceCage beat me to it - one of those monitors should tell you whats what. I chucked £5 on my electric today as had £2 left from last week, and that will last me till next Thursday. Somewhere, something in your house is chewing through a hell of a lot of electric.

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ThisIsANiceCage · 13/01/2011 14:17

The really big powersuckers are anything to do with heating or cooling, so hair straighteners probably use more than a DVD player, for eg.

Definitely recommend one of those little electricity monitors. Switch everything off and see if you're still using power. Then switch items back on one by one to find the culprits.

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ILovedYou · 13/01/2011 14:07

pc on all day 8.30am - 12.30am

central heating from 9am to 11pm

fridge freezer - 24/7

small deep freeze - 24/7

large tv - 9am - 12.30am

portable tv, dvd player too - 4pm - 9pm - weekdays and 10am - 11pm - weekends

child bedroom lamp - 7pm - 11pm

bedroom lamp with eco bulb - 4pm - 12am weekdays

lounge lamp - 8am - 12.30am

virgin box/dvd player, telephones - 24/7

small wc eco light - on from 4pm - 8am

tumble dryer/washing machine - every 3 days

is it about right?

thanks

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SleeplessInLondon · 13/01/2011 14:05

I've been having a nightmare with my electric bills and have been tracking the readings for over a year. Was due to have an insppector out soon as was convinced that I was being charged nearly double what I should be using. I had an electrician here yesterday to fix a broken spot light and he asked did I have an immersion heater. I remembered that there was one in the cellar when we moved in but that I'd never used it (gas heats the water).

When we checked - the damn thing was switched on. I think I had another workman in a while ago who must have switched it on by accident. So definately consider the immersion, its the biggest cause of sky high electric bills.

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LittleBeaut · 13/01/2011 13:54

Flipping eck ILovedYou that is loads!! I put £15 on my electric on Sunday and still have loads and loads left on it and I was at home Tuesday and Wednesday all day because my elderst had an operation on Monday. I think I actually use more electric than they say on the statement if I'm honest or I think I should do hahaha. Like I say I have a 4 bedroom house, and there is always the usual on fride/freezer etc but there is always at least 2 tv's on in my house, the wii is usually on, things charging like laptop/DSi's/Psp go's/Mobile phones etc, the boys never EVER remember to turn lights off so bathroom light is always on and usually a bedroom light to as well as kitchen and lamp. I have electric oven so I defo dont think I being charged enough... unless I get a good rate when I moved and I signed to keep it at that rate for a while... I cant remember, but its EDF I'm with x

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ILovedYou · 13/01/2011 12:58

smokinaces - what are they?


Oooh i am being ripped off

I gave Scottish Power a call and they said NO!, i am not being ripped off, that is standard rate for my usage??????

I have NO idea which appliance(s) is/are costing so much...?

I have used 7 pounds since Monday morning and it is Thursady now... Shock

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smokinaces · 12/01/2011 20:18

ILovedYou - can you get an electric measure thing to see whats costing you all that money??? £28 a week on electric is extraoridinary honestly!!

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smokinaces · 12/01/2011 20:17

honestly, the difference between a key meter and a billed meter is something quite small like £20 a year.

To me, the benefits outweigh that cost by far.

I have a 3 bed end of terrace. I use washing machine 7 times a week, tumble dryer 3 or 4, dishwasher 3 or 4. I have hot water on for 30 minutes every 2 days, and heating on 5-8am and 4-11pm, and some ad hoc. I have a gas cooker. I have 2 boys and me.

In winter I pay £15 a week on gas, £8 a week on electric (thats height of snow) Autumn and Spring it gradually reduces until I am paying £5 a week electric and £3 a week gas in the summer.

I get paid my tax credits weekly (monthly salary goes on nursery and council tax) so to budget weekly is a lot better for me. Also means in the summer I have extra funds to do things with the kids in school holidays etc. and I know I'm not over paying or underpaying.

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researchinmotion · 12/01/2011 20:10

Sorry meant to say there's me and my daughter here.

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researchinmotion · 12/01/2011 20:09

I have a 2 bed semi. GSH which has been on constantly the past month or so. TV,pc,lights on. Washer on three times a week.

I've been at home following an operation so everything has been on most of the time.

I'm on a prepayment meter and normally put on £30 on each gas and electric a month. Obviously the gas has gone up a bit what with it been freezing so I'm putting more on gas atm.

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LittleBeaut · 11/01/2011 19:54

You are defo being ripped off ILovedYou because I have a 4 bedroom chicky!! Shock

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ILovedYou · 11/01/2011 19:06

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am in a 3 bedroom house

I have Scottish Power, pre-payment metres for both electric and gas

I have NO debts and per day i use 4 pounds electricity and 3 pounds gas.

Electricity - 28.00 per WEEK!

Gas - 21.00 - per WEEK!

I'm seriously beiong ripped off am i?

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lilly153 · 11/01/2011 18:59

thanks angeree and littlebeaut i phoned and spoke to both electric and gas company theyve assured me i wont get charged any extra for having meters put in and that i dont get charged anymore for gas or electric than somebody on bills
i tried to work out better repayment plans but my gas min payment they would accept was £99 per month so ive opted to get both gas and electric meters put in my gas comp are going to take £3.30 a week off me but i owe them more than £600 bareing in mind ive been paying them £70 a month since i moved in Hmm not sure how they work that out but hey ho and my electric ive manage to make a payment to them so only owe the £150 and they are going to take £5 a week so wont take that long to clear that hopefully
any yes i think once ive paid them both off i will shop around for a cheaper option if theirs one availible

thanks ladies for all your help and advice

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LittleBeaut · 09/01/2011 00:54

I agree with Anngree... I love my prepay meters. I love not getting bills EVER, and I have never used anywhere near the amount of gas or electric that I ever did before I had a prepayment meter, which I dont get if there suppose to cost more money Confused

When I had a debt on mine I paid £5 a week gas and £7 a week on electric... didnt really miss it and soon the dept was paid off. Funny I just got statement from EDF today so say I use about 93p a day gas and £1.48 electric a day on average.

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Anngeree · 08/01/2011 23:40

Hi lilly
I'm on prepayment meters, the electric meter was prepayment when I moved into my house and I opted to change to gas prepayment meter as company I was with (EON) had been undercharging me for a year after I moved in then decided to send me a £300 bill at a christmastime! Being a single parent on benefits I couldn't afford this so asked for prepayment meter to be put in. They took £5wk off me but it comes of so-many-pence per day the bill was paid off in 10mths and meter tells you how much you have outstanding left to pay. As soon as i'd paid debt off I changed companies (now with EDF) find there customer service skills a lot better. EON tried to tell me I had a debt outstanding on my account before I changed but had paid off debt, prepayment meter had stopped collecting debt and when I worked out how much i'd paid back it definately covered debt so couldn't understand where outstanding debt had come from until I checked there bills and found they were adding VAT to my account instead of taking it of payments I was making at PP point I pointed this out to them and of course it was a computer errorHmm
I have gas central heating, cooker etc and my bills are around £20wk in winter and around £7wk in summer for gas. My electric is the same all year round has just increased from £5wk -£7.50wk.
I find prepayment meters cheaper than bills or direct debit but reason they are classed as more expensive is because you might only be using 45p worth of electric but with standing charge, VAT etc taken into account you get charged roughly £1 a day so paying more for charges than actual usage.
I think prepayment meters are the way to go and once you've paid debt you can change companies and know that you can only use what is on meter and won't build up another debt.
Not sure what company your with but EDF also have a trust fund that offer grant's to help you get out of debt.
It may seem inconvienient at first having to remember to top gas and electric up but once you get used to it, it's as simple as taking your card or key with you when you go shopping. There is also emergency credit available which you can use if your credit runs out but you haven't been able to pop to the shop this will last a couple of days until you can top up only thing is you get charged at higher rate for using it but as soon as you top up debt gets cleared.

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Smadarama · 03/01/2011 18:15

Lilly - You mentioned that you are in arrears with your gas & electricity.

British Gas have a trust fund that can help with your arrears. I got help about 5 years ago when I was really struggling - visit www.britishgasenergytrust.org.uk (think it might be the same one that nixnjj was talking about but the link didn't work for me when I tried to check). You can apply directly but if you are near to an Advice Centre then it's probably worth getting some help as they will have experience of what makes a good application.

The Money Saving Expert website has loads of really useful information re: Utilities.

Good Luck

Scorps I'm really impressed with what you do re: your electricity/gas use & will be following suit. Thanks

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lilly153 · 03/01/2011 17:05

No I don't think so I'm clueless when it comes to all this stuff if their is one of these and it was on constantly would this cost a lot?

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 03/01/2011 16:59

Is there an immersion heater backup switch? Could be that it is set to on which would keep the water hot?

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lilly153 · 03/01/2011 16:09

I'm not on any benefits so don't no of that's why they won't reduce the payments, will have a look at that forum as soon as I get on my computer just using my mobile just now and kendodds when I phoned up and they said I should go to preypay meter for my gas she did explain that but she said if I was on benefits they would only take a set amount per week that we would agree on if I got prepay meters, I told them I was receiving benefits as I don't think they will check this will they
Think one of my problems is my boiler is in the loft just outside my flat wich I would never dream of going in(terrified of spiders or anything that's just not human lol) so I have constant hot water but I've got my hot water switched to off in my kitch on the little timer thing but I still have constant hot water so I think their must be something on the boiler to make this happen

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nixnjj · 03/01/2011 15:48

You might be able to get your British Gas debts wiped

forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2637445

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 03/01/2011 15:18

Seriously, don't transfer to prepayment if you can at all help it and especially if you are in debt. The debt will come off the prepayment cards you buy, so you may put a £10 card in for example,but a proportion of the debt comes off that, so it is worth less IYSWIM. Also you don't get fixed rate schemes for PPMs.
Do you have online tariffs set up at all? These are a little bit cheaper normally.

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