December/January 17 cycle buddies

[HelloMist]

Is anybody else about to start a cycle?

I start down regging on boxing day! I could use some company.

[HelloMist]

I don't think it's true that period can't come on progesterone. Maybe less likely to, but it can. Don't know for sure it's AF yet but I've got red blood. :( I think last, unsuccessful, time it started before I stopped drugs too. Just cramps could be fine though.

Tiny glad to hear that you did get frosties! Takes off the pressure slightly to know you have those.

[wishmeluck16]

yes googleing around has definitely told me that, that what is a BFP sign for one person was a BFN for another.

basically NOTHING you feel means anything

[TinySalmon]

I was crampy on my positive cycle and I think that was down to my uterus starting to stretch and adjust to the growing bean inside. So AF cramps not necessarily an indication AF about to happen.

On my negative cycle I was unbelievably anxious, like PMS on steroids (or PMT whatever it's called these days). I was so highly strung and I think that was my body gearing up for AF but was getting angry it couldn't because of the progesterone 😂 Don't recall being particularly crampy with the failed cycle, just had next level PMS anxiety.

BUT... every body is different so don't want to say X definitely means Y. You'll just have to hold out to see if the pg line gets thicker/darker 😓😓

[wishmeluck16]

Tiny, thank you SO much for your reply. This has been my biggest burning question! I have been embarrassed to call the clinic to ask and also cant be bothered with the waiting time on hold to get through to a nurse lol.

so on a negative cycle we are saying you could be cramping because your period WANTS to come but cant due to pregestorone maybe?

anyways I have decided to test again tonight. If darker than two days ago when I posted here, then I will use fmu tomorrow. if negative, then I will call it a day and say we have failed and get on with my life.

4 embies is fantastic Tiny! I was actually thinking about you last night in bed lol. about how many you had collected and only one was viable. so so good to hear you got another 4! now they can be frozen with my 2 that were frozen and we can carry on being ivf twinnies :D

[TinySalmon]

I'm feeling ok Spread. Really constipated and find any form of exercise, even really light yoga, unbearable.

Got some good news from the clinic at least: we have been able to freeze 4 embryos! The worst quality of which is a 5BB and after much googling I can see other women have had success with 5BB embies during an FET so feeling very calm about things now.

Wish - I was having on and off cramping the whole time during my positive first cycle so that could be a good sign!! AF won't come while you're on progesterone. If it turns out to be a negative on OTD (fingers crossed this is not the case) then the clinic will tell you to stop progesterone and AF will come 2-3 days after that. Well that's what happened with my failed FET anyway.

[wishmeluck16]

I stopped testing after that one guys. I just took that test and another. the one you saw was the faint positive and the other one was pure negative.

so then I fell into a depression. I also fear a chemical. My test day isn't until the 7th though which is a full 14 days post a 5 day transfer which I think is a little over the top.

I am having terrible cramps since last weekend. they wont go away! and a left side stich. nothing otherwise.

I have one burning question. With the amount of AF pain I am having, am I to expect my period if this has not worked? I don't know with IVF. normally AF pains with no AF would give me hope, but during IVF no one mentioned if maybe you don't get your AF until you stop the luteal support? :(

[SpreadTheLove]

I know Tiny!! So done with this weird rollercoaster!

Anyway just confirmed another HCG for Fri morning. If they've not seriously jumped, then it's game over. But glad I'll know.

How are you feeling Tiny? Hopefully better than yesterday.

Wish - put that test down now!! Haha. Just kidding! What are today's lines looking like?

X

[TinySalmon]

Mist, like Spread said, a faint positive two days before your OTD is a good sign. Brown blood is old blood so I wouldn't worry. Will you test again today?

Spread I am so sorry. What a journey you have been on! How is it that your hcg hasn't doubled but the pg test went from 1-2 weeks to 2-3 weeks. What's up with that?! Hopefully you will get some answers on Friday but maybe try another pg test?

We've all been through hell and sending big hugs all round xx

[SpreadTheLove]

Morning, congrats Hello!! A faint positive sounds very promising. Really hope it's not a CP but totally get that fear. It's your big day tomorrow so only a little more waiting!

I'm starting another bleed which coupled with my non doubling HCG means the inevitable is coming sadly. In a weird way, I feel happy that I got this far, although ultimately it was for nothing. I also feel relieved to just know where I stand rather than have so much false hope.

Have asked clinic for another HCG on Friday just to confirm the position and then we can start to grieve and move on.

Rooting hugely for you guys to have much better luck!! Xx

[HelloMist]

Hugs to you all.

I tested yesterday and only got a faint positive (none on another brand). Still faint today and a little brown blood when I wipe. DH is angry with me for testing early and thinks I'm making this harder for us both! I'm scared because this feels similar to what happened in my chemical pregnancy. I hope it doesn't end up the same way. :(

[wishmeluck16]

hugs spread.

Aww why is today so shitty? It's our hormones isn't it :( spread I hope things look up for you!!! Wishing it all works for you I really really do.

[SpreadTheLove]

Pants day all round girls - my HCG isn't increasing as it should be so not looking good. Have to wait to see what scan says next Wed.

Sending you all hugs xx

[wishmeluck16]

It's OK. We are all in our own awful situations aren't we. What we would give to just have sex and boom be with child!

[TinySalmon]

Bloody hell wish! That's beyond awful. I'm speechless 😐

[wishmeluck16]

Tiny first let me say - woohoo you are PUPO!!! :D

now let me say how sorry I am for all the upset you had last time and what happened to your little one. and because we are IVF twinnies, may I remind you that the reason I am even going through IVF is because my doctor misdiagnosed me and literally forgot to check my blood test results which resulting in me almost dying and only just making it alive - but losing my tubes in the process (although somehow they also "forgot" to tell me that my tubes were f*cked and let me ttc for 2 years before I went to a consultant, had an op and was told "your infertile").

so NHS messed us both up and here we are.

sorry I am also feeling really down at the moment so HUGS here xx

[TinySalmon]

Thanks Spread ❤️ xx

[SpreadTheLove]

Oh Tiny, I'm so sorry about the other embies. That's gutting. Totally understand how you're feeling.

Allow yourself time for the anger and upset to come out. You're allowed to vent as much as you like on MN. That's the beauty of it. We're all here.

All I will say is that there is still one wee embie on board and it's going to need all the positivity and strength you can muster so channel that into it whenever you're ready and let's all hope that it sticks.

I also really hope that after what happened to your little boy, they'll watch you so carefully throughout the whole process to make sure nothing like that happens again.

Sending huge hugs. xx

[TinySalmon]

So I am PUPO with one blast safely onboard.

Some bad news though: even though we had 16 embryos that made it to blastocyst, apart from the one they transferred, all are C and D quality and the clinic said they probably won't freeze ANY of them. NONE

I'm so upset as this puts monumental amounts of pressure for this one to work. This blast is a 4BB which was the same grade as my son but also the same grade as my failed FET. So it really could go either way. 50/50!

Clinic will call me tomorrow to let me know if they think any are viable enough to freeze but were quite strong in saying not to get my hopes up.

I'm SO upset, angry, sad, bitter. I should have never been in this situation if my booking-in midwife in my last pregnancy picked up on the fact I had a LLETZ procedure less than 12 months prior and followed protocol and procedures and should have been consultant-led. I'm angry that the TWO times I went to A&E before going in to labour nobody read my notes properly which could have saved
my pregnancy. My son would be here today and I wouldn't have this stress.

Sorry. Just have to get that off my chest as feeling down on the world

[wishmeluck16]

Spread let us know how your beta goes!

At my clinic they don't do a blood test until AFTER you have tested at home and got a positive result!.

does anyone know whether my period will actually ever come? or are the suppositories stopping it? because my clinic just gave me a paper to say pee on a stick on the 7th of feb and if positive ring us for blood test.

I am feeling really pessimistic this morning for some reason not sure why. I was wrong to test last night and I feel more anxious now. for some reason the faint positive has now upset me rather than excite me and I would have preferred a negative as nervous of chemicals :( I tested on another early response brand and it was clear negative (one of those internet 10miu strips). this is the link of what the rest of the internet thinks of my test lol. www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test-gallery/image.php?galleryid=634464

Tiny- we ARE twins!! good luck this morning with your transfer, you will soon be PUPO! :D

[SpreadTheLove]

Looks like a v faint line Wish which is a great sign! Fingers crossed as you get closer, it'll get darker. I do think clear blue digital is the only way forward though. There's no room for error...or worrying about faint lines. Don't worry though - signs are looking good!

Tiny - sorry for silly comment re triplets / quads. Didn't think. Just get that perfect one put back in tomorrow and hopefully it'll deliver you a gorgeous healthy baby. Best of luck for tomorrow.

Hello - hang in there! Thurs is not far away although to be fair, I'm being such a hypocrite as I tested before OTD! Do whatever you're comfortable with. Everyone's rooting for you!

My beta is tomorrow now so feeling anxious about HCG levels. Will keep you posted!

[wishmeluck16]

Well I am having really strong on and off cramps and was feverish last night so decided to go for it. Just worried pregnyl is still in my system but it's been 12 days since my trigger injection! So I'm thinking should be OK!

Can't believe it at the moment so feeling a little down again 😕 it's a whole 1 week until my test day from the clinic lol

[TinySalmon]

Definitely a yey!!!!! 💃🏼🎉👶🏼

If you're anything like me you'll be poas every day until your OTD to see if the line gets thicker. Hope you have deep pockets for all those pg tests

[wishmeluck16]

Ok so be mad everyone...

5dp5dt

Yey or ney?...😨

[TinySalmon]

We're twins wish!!

I have ET at 10am tomorrow. Super anxious!

[HelloMist]

Yes, I've been very tempted to poas! I don't feel very pregnant so have started to feel a bit down and sure that it will be a BFN. Argh! I know that it's not always easy to tell so early though so I need to stay hopeful. :/ Didn't have any tests in the house until today. I've bought some but am trying to hold off. Thank you Spread for telling me to, think I needed someone to tell me to wait! My OTD is Thursday.

Glad the test gave you reassurance, Spread.