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Yet another child has died after getting caught up in a blind cord

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Itsfab · 28/04/2014 19:08

The mother has said what every mother who has lost a child to the same accident has said - parents need to be aware of the dangers and children kept away from them.

I feel like something needs to be done. Common sense can't be relied on, neither can notices on the instructions they come with that not everyone will read.

There needs to be another way of using a blind that means the cord doesn't have to be a single unit. I am sure there is someone clever enough on here, or with a bright teenager, who could come up with something.

Not only is it so very sad to read about another death it is all so frustrating as it didn't need to happen. So many children have died, over 20 iirc. Do people think it won't happen to them or is the message really not getting out there?

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/04/2014 16:05

Can anyone link to a safety contraption that allows the blinds to be opened and closed easily?

I'm moving end of this week to somewhere that has blinds in every room. I've taken down the one in the room that will be Ds bedroom but think I have to keep the rest (letting not buying). I was worried anyway and now this thread has just tipped me over the edge!

Currently I have a blind in the bedroom but it has a metal chain not strings, and breaks under any tension - which I have done once by accident so I know it's safe. Id rather not pay for new blinds throughout in the new place as I'll have to leave them there when I move again... But I will if there's not a safe alternative

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ShouldBeDoingSomethingProducti · 29/04/2014 20:27

Misc - what sort of blinds are they? Roller, roman or venetian? Roller blinds are easy you can just 'fix' the bottom of them to go around something (clear as mud I know!) but venetians or romans - I can't find anything that looks like it would help. Those cleats are of minimal use as that's what they child unwound the cord from... (it would prevent an accident if they were just playing about and got caught by accident, but a baby could unwind the cord from them should they choose to - easily). The best solution I could come up with if I had to keep them up was the one in my previous post - which was to put the blind right down (so the cord is at the shortest point) then put a length of tube over it and cut it to size - this would mean there would be far less cord dangling down, then I would fix something over the cord at the top to hold it flat against the wall. Does that make sense?

However, if I was renting to you and you wanted to take the blinds down I would see if I could find a safe way to secure them for you and if you were still worried I'd gladly take them down and store them & put up some other window covering if there weren't any other curtains etc. It wouldn't be cheap and I'm not made of money, but I couldn't live with myself if I had refused you and anything happened to your DS - hopefully other landlords would feel the same.

I am looking at window coverings at the moment and was looking to put up roman blinds, but I am now having a rethink... and unless I can find a way that makes them as safe as curtains it's not happening.

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LittleBairn · 29/04/2014 20:40

Its not just families that need to be targeted its businesses like Hotels and B&Bs too. My ex charge aged 3 almost hanged himself in a hotel restaurant behind heavy curtains with his dad sitting right in front him oblivious, thankfully an old man fancing him noticed and jumped up shouting at him to save his son.
His nursery teacher used him for show and tell that week, his neck was an awful sight, to demonstrate to the children not to play with blind cords or putting anything around their necks. It was successful too a number of parents and nannies mentioned afterwards their kids spoke about it a lot and would repeat no putting anything around your neck to them.

It was one of the first thing I did when I took on a new job, I noted all the blinds and curtain cords and would point the out to my bosses if I was concerned.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/04/2014 20:43

They are the kind that have lots of thin plastic slats and can be tilted as well as raised up & down - sorry can't remember the name, brain fog! But I think that's one of the ones that it's hard to make safe.

I think I can take down the ones in the lounge without too much trouble, but my bedroom poses a problem as I do need privacy and he creeps into my room every night at some point to cosleep, so could be wandering around... Oh I'm not comfortable with this.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/04/2014 20:45

I was concentrating on making the actual windows child safe, as they all open wide and we ll be on the third floor. Bugger. Everything about these windows aren't ok :(

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Madcatgirl · 29/04/2014 20:45

I recently bought a blind from dunelm and it has a very short cord that attaches around a loop that is screwed to the wall that pulls the short cord tit so it can't be removed or fiddled with. It was sold as a "safe blind"

I noticed b&q are redoing their entire blind collection when I was looking for one recently.

I tried one from homebase with a handle winder, but the winder snapped (and the whole blind fell apart within two weeks).

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ExitPursuedByABear · 29/04/2014 20:47

I thought the same when I read this today. So many times.

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TeWiSavesTheDay · 29/04/2014 20:55

So sad.

I worried about this loads when we were renting, our landlords were arses so didn't feel I could take the blinds down or tamper with them in anyway, just had to do the best we could.

A quarter of families live in rented houses - it's very easy to not know the risks of something you didn't buy and install in the house.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/04/2014 21:07

I think I found one that looks good - what do you think?

venetian blind safe

I feel like I'm gambling with Ds safety by trying to adapt what's there rather than just rip them out - but am already paying for sooo much and i would have to borrow the money to fit curtains which I'd have to leave behind to ensure deposit etc...

Im getting a high up bolt & door chain fitted (he's tall enough to open the main latch), and every window to have child safety devices fitted, and chairs that his booster seat will fit on properly, and about a million other things, and am having to hire a van to go 200 miles to my parents house to store the £500 worth of fall safe outdoor tiles I got for the outside space in this current flat, and and and... And that's just the child safety expenses!!! Ok, I may be in full on moving house and hating it mode, slipping gently into mother guilt mode - aware I am whining :)

What other child safety things might I have forgotten?

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ShouldBeDoingSomethingProducti · 29/04/2014 21:10

Misc - do you have to move in there? (sorry, that's probably a stupid question, but it sounds like a nightmare).

What you have are venetian blinds and ^^ is what you could try, but... if I were you, I would take them down (and store them somewhere clean, dry & safe and put them back up when you leave) else you aren't going to get a minutes peace. You can put up a 'safe' blackout blind in your room (minimal effort & damage to the walls) if you feel you need something - though I actually hate anything up at the windows and if I was on the 3rd floor I wouldn't bother (I don't now, if the neighbours want to look then they only have themselves to blame if they don't like what they see Grin I like the light coming in, in the mornings). I'm only looking at Roman blinds as I'm fed up of people commenting on my lack of window coverings and the damn things can stay UP!

If you really don't feel you can take them down then I would either have them permanently UP or DOWN and I would do something permanent with the cords - buy those cheap cord stores but tape them closed etc.

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ShouldBeDoingSomethingProducti · 29/04/2014 21:11

Just cross posted, I'll go and have a look at that link and brb.

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BOFster · 29/04/2014 21:18

That ratchet thing looks like an excellent solution. I would install them and leave the blinds up.

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ShouldBeDoingSomethingProducti · 29/04/2014 21:25

Misc - it all sounds like a whole lot of hassle, but soon you will be moved in and it will all be behind you. It's a shame you don't have anywhere in your new place to use all that outdoor matting!

^^ blind thingy - it's probably the best option I have seen so far, but in preference to screwing those things on the wall I would put the covers over the cords.

Also, if I was renting this place out I'd sooner the tennants spoke to me as I'd be annoyed if they put them on the walls - I'd rather take the blinds down and put curtains up for them - but I have just had the walls all plastered so I'm even more precious than normal Grin

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/04/2014 23:11

Yes, I'll feel better in a couple of weeks when it's all over and we're settled in. Everything is half packed and not home-y here and not home-y in the new flat either, this inbetweeny stage is making me grumpy, I need to nest :)

I had to take what I could get as the landlord here decided to get rid of us at a time I wasn't expecting (building works expensive for them & they stopped half way through, making the flat uninhabitable). Ds school application was in and I had an area of about 200 square meters to look in to keep school application and access to my work.

Sooo, I'm paying extortionate amounts for a flat I don't particularly like, to move from a place that was my home and I wasn't ready to move. And we're losing the garden... Which i utterly loved. Such is renting I guess.

Anyway, there are lots of positives, but I'm tired from packing and being very bah humbug about the whole thing!

It's a 1930s block and all walls are concrete and utterly solid, making any DIY a major undertaking, and most is banned by the building itself. I think that's why blinds inside window alcoves rather than curtains above the windows.

I'll order that blind thingy for my room and see if i can take down the others. I dont want the world to see my nakedness! Ill also ask the landlord how he feels about me making changes to the blinds - I wonder if I can change the blind to a roller blinds which are much easier to buy safe ones.

Thanks for bearing with me whining ... And finding a solution Flowers

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/04/2014 23:12

Ps I'm a lovely tenant, I've spent the day with a handy man sanding out scratches and filling in holes from picture hooks etc before I leave (polishes halo)... I better get my ruddy deposit back!

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TenThousandSpoons · 30/04/2014 06:49

Can I ask with Venetian blinds is it just the looped cord that is dangerous? On ours the looped cord (the one that lets the blind up and down) is tied up high as the blind is permanently down but there are also 2 strings hanging down (the ones that you pull to slant the slats open or closed). Is that unsafe? Hope that makes sense to someone. Thanks.

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ShouldBeDoingSomethingProducti · 30/04/2014 08:57

Misc what a shame :( Though I suppose once DS is settled in school there's nothing to stop you looking a little bit further out if you want to. It's a shame to be paying a lot more for a place you don't like, without a garden as well. Though, maybe you will come to feel the positives outweigh the negatives :)

I'm more worried about the neighbours mental health after seeing me naked than being seen naked - it really will teach them not to look in other peoples windows Grin

I'm sure you are a lovely tennant, and I hope if I have to rent this place out, to find one just like you!

Now you have filled the holes and sanded the walls aren't you going to have to repaint??

You aren't whining - you are worried, tired & mid move!


Spoons If it can be looped around your hand then it's dangerous, yes, but much more so if it's a loop of cord (not sure, most seem to have a 'wand' for the slanting bit. I would cut them as short as you can. They said on another site that the cords in the middle of the blinds are a danger too and the thing you can do to make them safer is to undo the bottom, take out any spare slats, re tie the knots, then put strong velcro along the bottom of the blind and the window ledge and press it down hard.

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TenThousandSpoons · 30/04/2014 09:10

Thanks. I think I might just get rid if it! We also have Roman blinds with the long cords which tie around a figure of 8 hook, but do tie them up religiously and the kids have never undone them. Wonder if they are too dangerous as well.

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Sidge · 30/04/2014 10:50

As well as blinds, please remember that collapsed rotary washing lines can also be a strangulation hazard.

Please leave them up, or buy a cover for them.

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ShouldBeDoingSomethingProducti · 30/04/2014 10:51

TenThousand it has a cord, it's the same risk :(

The little girl in the safety video (aged about 6, maybe even 7) unwound it, I wouldn't advise watching the video as even though it's very American Advert style it still really got to me - I could see exactly how it could happen, even with a child of that age.

What you could do is put a couple of quick release things on the cords and still keep tying them up. I would think that if you did both of these things the risk should be pretty low.

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specialsubject · 01/05/2014 18:16

how does it happen? There is an age when kids are mobile enough to get tangled but not heavy enough to break the loops, and that's when they die.

I bought a new roller blind late last year for my rental property. It comes with a simple device to secure the looped cord to the wall, so it is held tight. And a big warning about why it should be used. Fixed it on, job done. So the system is already there for new blinds.

for existing ones; secure the loop with one of these devices. With vertical blinds which have lots of loops, draw the blind so it is on one side of the window and clip it together with clothes pegs at the top. Use the same peg to hold the cord out of the way. This is a good solution when kids are visiting houses.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 01/05/2014 18:16

I got the safety gadgets already (v quick!), and am moving tomorrow, so will let you know of they're any good.

I spoke to the estate agent and he's agreed to ask the landlord about replacing the blind in my bedroom with a roller blind that has a break cord/ child safety device built in.

But for the moment it's unsafe so will be taping all cords into the top of the blind as a first couple of data measure, and installing the gadget ASAP. Hopefully will just be an interim measure.

(ergh the packing, the packing! Ive got to that great point where you realise you need things you packed hours ago abd cant possibly find again. How can a flat hold this much stuff?! I swear it's bred in the cupboards since I put stuff away... I don't have time to declutter as I pack beyond the easy stuff, so will have to declutter at new flat, a bit each week)

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