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Nordic napping

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suedehead · 22/02/2013 08:37

So, I spotted this one this morning:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21537988

Whilst at first you may think 'blimey', I can actually see the logic! Anyone tried this? Do you reckon it leads to healthier children?

Are we all just paranoid about someone nicking our babies...!?

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Booyhoo · 22/02/2013 17:31

is this really news?

mine are 7 and 3 and both went outside everyday for their naps, aswell as lots of walks. i saw someone one FB linking to this article saying something about the nordic way and 'no mollycoddling' (from a non parent) and i thought it was odd as it never occured to me that i was doing anything nordic by pushing the pram outside. it's hardly a revelation. i know my mum did it with me and hers before her. this isn't news.

Booyhoo · 22/02/2013 17:44

as for cats or foxes? raincover.

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:04

A raincover? I hope you don't keep rabbits or chickens then...

Excuse me, I'm just going to drape a raincover over a rabbit pen for the night. That'll protect them!

Booyhoo · 22/02/2013 18:13

no i dont. and if i did i wouldn't keep them in a sodding pram at the back door in full view of me in the kitchen

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:17

Do you get the point I'm making? A raincover is designed to keep a baby dry. It is not designed to keep a hungry, intelligent animal with sharp teeth out!

Suggesting a plastic raincover to keep foxes out is ridiculous.

babyboomersrock · 22/02/2013 18:19

smellysocks - much of the garden could be seen from the house, and did lead out from the kitchen, but it went all round the house and the boundaries were hidden from view by trees and hedges. You certainly couldn't have sat in one spot and kept an eye on all of it.

We had to wash terry squares every day - I suspect they weren't so thick as modern reusables - plus muslin liners. Since twin tubs didn't do a boil wash, you also had to use a nappy boiler or soak all nappies in a sterilising fluid first. I know it sounds strange, but we didn't actually have enough spare clothes to leave the washing for two days. Many clothes needed to be hand washed too.

It's just different times. I'm certainly not advocating going back to them!

As for outdoor nurseries; I don't imagine the children spend all day running, jumping and hauling logs. Fine motor skills are also required for picking up small leaves and berries.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 18:21

I got the impression from the fox attack threads that London foxes are different but for the rest of us, the idea that a fox might have a go at one's baby whilst it's in its pram wouldn't even occur to us.

It's not as if people are talking about leaving an unattended baby overnight on the common, is it?

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:22

My Mother-in-law's cat was scared of my babies, but loved the pram. So she used to scrape the catnet off when it was empty, in order to sleep in there herself.

And that was designed to keep animals out. Raincover? No problem!

AmberSocks · 22/02/2013 18:23

Its funny really because these days we have things so much easier i that sese(housekeeping)and we usually have less children to care for,but people seem to complain more!

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:24

I don't live in London. I do, however, live in a urban conurbation. With foxes. If you don't get the children's rabbits in at night, you will have a bloody mess to clear up while you come to terms with being a fucking idiot.

AmberSocks · 22/02/2013 18:25

Even though i agree with what jessie is saying,most of the people o this thread have said they leave them outside where they can see them,i dot see anything wrong with that,although i dont see the point of it and i wouldnt do it myself.I think aslong as you can see them at all times its ok.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 18:29

Leaving your rabbits out overnight is nothing like leaving a baby out on the patio! Rabbits are going to get eaten by something, babies generally aren't.

Booyhoo · 22/02/2013 18:29

all prams should be fitted with chicken wire.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 18:31

I had a bird scarer fitted to mine. Rather defeated the leaving them outside for a snooze object though

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:34

leave them outside where they can see them,i dot see anything wrong with that,although i dont see the point of it and i wouldnt do it myself.I think aslong as you can see them at all times its ok.

True. But why would you do that to yourself? That twenty minutes of peace during a nap is important! Wouldn't it be better to leave them somewhere indoors where you didn't need to watch them, and actually do one of the many, many, many things you hadn't been able to do all day?

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:35

Anyway, you think I'm mad? Was on a forum last week where a guy advocated killing all British birds of prey in case they took scottie dogs.

5madthings · 22/02/2013 18:43

Mine have slelt outside sometimes, eso with older ones the baby got a better nap.outside where it was quieter! They also slept on me or in the house, it just depended what we were doing. I really dont yhink there are lots if foxes out there just waiting for you to leave your baby alone so they can pounce on it. I just put them in the pram, wrapped up warm and raincovet if needed. The covet on a bugaboo is a pita to get on and off and really sturdy, mine is 8 yrs old and good as new. I can keep am eye on sleeping child fro. Kitchen and dining rm window as they are on the driveway right out the front of my house.

prettybird · 22/02/2013 18:43

I live in an urban area with lots of urban foxes. Lots of cats too (two of which are ours).

Still wouldn't feel uncomfortable leaving a baby out during the day (and did so when ds was a baby). At night/in the dark would be a different matter.

But we all make different assessments of different risks, 'cos we are the only ones who can judge what feels right for us

TheBigJessie · 22/02/2013 18:50

True. I suppose the real problem is I just get irritated by Ostentatious Relaxed Parenting. It seems like thinly disguised Wound-Tighter-Than-A-Bobbin-of-Cotton type Evangelical Parenting.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 18:55

Leaving a baby to snooze in their pram in the garden is hardly ostentatiously relaxed, Jessie.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 18:55

Although I get your irritation.

drmummmsy · 22/02/2013 18:56

don't people get flamed on here frequently for seeing/leaving babies out/mil's suggesting it???

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honeytea · 22/02/2013 18:56

I will let my ds sleep outside in a place i can't see once he is over 6 months, the reason I don't now is because I worry about cot death rather than worrying about baby snatching or fox mauling (or wolf/bear/wild pig/wolverine/lynx mauling in Sweden)

My mother has a guenuine concern that ds will get eaten by a bear whilst sleeping outside in Sweden. We live on the 5th floor, it would have to be a very agile or flying bear.

People don't seem to worry about child snatching in sweden. The schools don't have fences around them, there is no check when you walk into a school. All you have to do to take a child home is tick their name off a list, you don't even have to say hi to the teacher often.

Booyhoo · 22/02/2013 19:01

i wasn't being evangelical. someone mentioned foxes and cats (was it you? i dont know) and i just said raincover as that's what i would do if i was concerned about cats or foxes getting at the baby. i'm not saying a raincover would win a fight against a starving fox but it's certainly going to stall the fox and in my situation i would have definitely seen/heard the fox trying to get the raincover off or tearing it so would have been out there before it got near the baby. i wasn't saying it's safe to leave your baby by the mouth of a fox's den (is that the word?) overnight with only a raincover for protection.

JenaiMorris · 22/02/2013 19:04

Haha honey - bears and wolves crossed my mind when the terrifying prospect of foxes and moggies was mentioned.

And yes drmum MILs are the devil - didn't you know?

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