Gay parents the new norm?

[yummymummy345]

Is it just me? but I do not entirely relish the idea of same sex couples being parents and thus becoming the norm. Watching Channel 4 news, they are highlighting books aimed at children with same sex couples instead of the traditional man/woman combo. I'm really not trying to offend anyone but I think men and women are generally different and so offer different things to a child, can 2 women or 2 men offer the same? I know 2 women/men would love that child just as much but is it all about love and security and thats it?

Gay marriage in the news also is looking to change our culture to make it the norm although I dont understand why civl partnership which affords the same rights? is not enough? A church marriage is for 2 people to procreate (if possible) so why does this all need to be changed?

I am interested on peoples opinions these are obviously just mine but would like to add I am not religious or homophobic .

[MrsNoMopp]

Gay people have always been normal. It is society which has updated itself and will continue to do so.

[Caucho]

And apologies if I come across as goady. It’s not my intention. Just don’t think ‘our two vaginas or two penises’ can’t create a baby is an actual health issue nor is I haven’t managed to find the right man. I’ve found most people who slag me off for this opinion change there tune when I think surrogacy for a single man should be publicly funded. Or I’m accused of being homophobic - I’m not. Suppose I’m on the wrong thread though as not actually saying gay people being parents is a bad thing

[Caucho]

When it comes to adoption I absolutely think gay couples should be considered as there are kids alive in care crying out for loving parents. When it comes to creating new life I’m not so supportive of equality when it comes to NHS funded fertility treatment. In most cases there’s physically nothing wrong with these people. It’s just basic nature that same sex couples can’t conceive. I do think they should be offered the same treatment as heterosexual people who have fertility issues.

And I’m not arguing that it shouldn’t be allowed or banned or anything. Just that when the health service is strapped for cash they shouldn’t be funding this. Feel the same about some cosmetic surgeries too and single mothers.

But that’s not the same as me thinking gay people can’t be good parents or there’s anything wrong with single parents using sperm donors. It should just be funded privately unless they can’t physically conceive ‘naturally’

[Mummylin]

Zombie thread from 2013

[BoomBoomsCousin]

Research generally finds no difference in outcomes between children raised by gay parents and those raised by heterosexual parents. Where there is difference it is either down discord where a child was initially the product of a heterosexual union but the parents split up and one of them partnered with someone of the same sex (and since comparison was made to children in general, not children on divorced and acrimonious parents, these studies are generally considered flawed) or down to prejudicial attitudes from others. So it seems it’s more homophobia and the lack of seeing gay parents as normal rather than homosexuality that is detrimental to children.

Men and women are statistically different, on average, in quite a few ways. But individual men and women and fall along most spectrums in a way that means there is a lot of crossover. There is generally more diversity within each sex than across them. So a male/female couple together won’t necessarily offer a wider range of talents/attitudes/skills/etc. than a single-sex couple.

[Mummylin]

This is a Zombie thread from 2013 !

[jechtsphere]

@yummymummy345

You don't 'relish' it? WTF dies that mean?

[anonacfr]

www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/04/1191504/-Must-Watch-The-Ultimate-Anti-Gay-Marriage-Ad

[castellburt]

But you are being homophobic! The civil partnership is not equality with marriage - property inheritance is not covered for a start. When people say or write that they are afraid of gay marriages becoming the norm, it seems to show that heterosexual marriages are so insecure they are threatened by gay marriages! I think there will be much more security in the world when people who are different are allows to live their lives peacefully, contributing their special gifts to society.

[Writehand]

Yep. Here's yet another post saying you're not a yummy mummy. You're a bigot. And "Are gay parents the new norm?" Well not while we heteros make up most of the population you moron silly woman.

As many have pointed out, gay adopters, like all adopters, are more likely to be loving and committed parents than so many loosely attached couples whose babies come from a drunken shag.

American research shows that the kids of lesbian parents do best in terms of well being and achievement. Of course, they're not intrinsically better because they're lesbian -- it's because they've usually had to put no little work and effort into becoming parents, so (on average) they take more care of the kids they have and have planned their family life in a way some heteros would do well to copy.

[FellatioNels0n]

I don't think they are likely to become 'the norm' exactly, do you?

Although there are plenty of supposedly 'normal' male/female parent combos I'd frankly quite like to see exterminated and replaced with decent, functional, non-abusive, loving gay couples.

[AnnieLobeseder]

I wear comfortable shoes and elasticated pants. I thought it was only sensible and being middle-aged. Now I find I must be gay. Poor DH, he'll be very disappointed when I tell him we must get divorced immediately.

[yummymummy345]

probably makes you old? ooops perhaps I am now ageist too... OOh what else can I say that you will assume my thoughts from.....

You have forgotten glasses surely - dead giveaway.

[breatheslowly]

I'm off to tell DH that I wear comfortable shoes. He wears comfortable shoes too. I think that might mean we are in a lesbian relationship. Do I need to have my hair cut short to match my comfortable shoes?

[tribpot]

I think this probably makes you responsible for the bisexuals, motherinferior.

[BIWI]

You are uber gay, motherinferior!

[motherinferior]

I wear comfortable shoes AND comfortable pants.

[tribpot]

Yes - if we all wore uncomfortable shoes it is a scientific fact there would be no gay people requiring their human rights to be respected.

[Amphitrite]

I always wear comfortable shoes. Is that how DD caught the gay? If only I had worn stillettos in her formative years she might have ended up 'normal' like the OP.

[BIWI]

I always wear comfortable shoes.

[tribpot]

You mean this whole thing about 'women in comfortable shoes' isn't true either?!

(I am a woman in comfortable shoes - out and proud).

[AnnieLobeseder]

In fact, it's homophobic to make any assumptions about gay people at all apart from that they prefer to have sexual relations with people of the same gender.

[SmileAndPeopleSmileWithYou]

Gay marriage in the news also is looking to change our culture to make it the norm although I dont understand why civl partnership which affords the same rights? is not enough?

erm...if that is your argument, why is civil partnership not enough for everyone? Why not get rid of religious ceremonies all together?
BECAUSE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO GET MARRIED IN A CHURCH!?

Why does it matter if those religious people are gay/straight?? I genuinely don't understand!

The priest told us that the marriage wouldn't be legal until consummated.
I'm pretty sure gay people have sex... whats the issue?

[Lastofthepodpeople]

I really couldn't care if a child's parents are gay or straight. Homophobic parents on the other hand can do a lot of damage...