Good news - peak oil theory seems to be untrue

[claig]

'The so-called ?peak oil? theory, which suggests that within the foreseeable future the world will run out of fossil fuels ? coal, oil and gas ? has never looked more absurd.'

'The green lobby, of course, is terrified that, despite the promotion of expensive and heavily subsidised wind power at the heart of the Energy Bill ? a subsidy paid to a considerable extent by poor householders through their bills to wealthy landowners with wind turbines ? the emergence of large supplies of cheap gas will make this policy unsustainable.
Hence the scare stories, lapped up by the BBC in particular, about shale oil and gas extraction causing earthquakes and pollution of the water supply.

Needless to say, there is no substance whatever in these scares.'




What will the think tanks and elite lobbies do now in order to stop the growth and progress of ordinary people?


www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2244822/Thought-running-fossil-fuels-New-technology-means-Britain-U-S-tap-undreamed-reserves-gas-oil.html

[claig]

'Great thinking Claig - who's going to pay for all this?'

Instead of giving billions in bail outs to bankers via quantitative easing and asking them nicely if they wouldn't mind lending it to small businesses, set up a national investment bank and start lending it out to the people and businesses of this country.

We created the industrial revolution, we created co-operatives, we are unlimited in our ability to create and innovate but we are starved of finance.

Instead of asking corporations if they can contribute more tax (at a level that small businesses and individuals pay), simplify the tax code and strengthen it so that corporations are not able to pay so little tax.

Use the vast quantities of shale gas beneath our feet to provide cheap energy to people and businesses so that we power up our economy and country and start growing like never before.

[MiniTheMinx]

Claig you are sounding more and more like a democratic leftie, are you ok?

Where will be dispose of all the gadgets? ahhhh, maybe if we dig up some coal, create holes on the ground looking for oil and gas, we can infill it with useless gadgets past repair and use !

[MiniTheMinx]

where will WE not be, sorry I had a fit of the giggles.

[claig]

It is humiliating for a great country like ours to be asking corporations via "people power" to contribute more in tax out of teh money that they turn over in this country.

[claig]

'Where will be dispose of all the gadgets?'

We can create them largely from recyclable components and we can also create incinerator technology that can burn waste products and produce energy for the country without needing landfill.

We've got the people and the brains.

[claig]

'Claig you are sounding more and more like a democratic leftie, are you ok?'

It's not about right and left, it's about right and wrong.
There are good things on th left and good things on the right. We need to take both, not fall into the divide and rule con game that the elites hope we will fall for.

[claig]

An interesting video of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones interviewed on Russia Today. The interviewer asks him "why are they doing this?" and he mentions our old friends, the bankers.

[claig]

Alex Jones on Russia Today saying that oil companies are behind the peak oil scam to push up oil prices.

Wouldn't it make great TV for the BBC to film a debate between people like Jones versus the think tanks, the lobby groups, the Oxbridge PPEa and the puppets. I wonder why they don't do it.

[claig]

Alex Jones, who left school at 16, could probably run rings around the PhDs and PPEs who work for the plutocrats.

How can that be? What value is there then in an Oxbridge PPE?

It's because truth defeats a lie, the spirit of the people will never die, like a bird freed from its cage it will always fly high.

"Viva il popolo, il popolo vincera"!

[claig]

Sorry, I think that PPEs are only from Oxford, and not the great University of Cambridge.

[PigletJohn]

Claig, I think everybody's gone now.

You're in danger of shouting at the pigeons.

[claig]

PigletJohn, there are many lurkers who are learning about lies all the time, and pigeons already know the truth.

"Viva il pigeoni e viva il popolo sempre in unita"!

[claig]

Lurkers know all about spin doctors and their lies, they know that their tales of "climate catastrophe" and "tipping points" are intended to frighten the pigeons.

But the people are wake, even the valleys have ears and the hills have eyes, we all know the plutocrats have their fingers in our pies.

[MiniTheMinx]

I will have a look at the you tube vid, thanks Claig.

[claig]

Another great debate with Dr Piers Corbyn, who explains one of the many agendas of the global warmers - to prevent the progress, growth and industrialisation of third world populations.

[PigletJohn]

have you got anything from serious climatologists or respected institutons, or just more made-up stuff from that one eccentric Corbyn?

[GrimmaTheNome]

Well [[http://www.bgs.ac.uk/research/earthquakes/BlackpoolMay2011.html here's ] the deal on the local earthquakes - that's what the British Geological Survey calls them, so you can hardly blame the BBC (and also telegraph, guardian, independent, channel4, FT) for reporting as such. They were small, but did seem to be correlated with the fracking activity.

[claig]

PigletJohn, do you mean the Dr Piers Corbyn who predicted the weather more accurately than the Meteorological Office?

I don't know the names of any serious climatologists. I know about lobbyists, think tanks and newspaper columnists who are shown on the BBC promoting climate catastrophe, but I can't think of any actual climatologists.

[claig]

Grimma, I was worried when I heard the reports about earthquakes due to fracking, and I do not rule out that these reports may be true. But the US is now doing fracking and my thoughts are that if it caused earthquakes in the US thatthe greens and the BBC would have publicised it to us, but I have herd nothing about that. I am not saying that it has not happened, but I have not heard of it on BBC News and I am pretty certain that they would have made that headline news for us for days if it were happening.

[claig]

Piers Corbyn on the BBC with what I think is a man from the Met Office.

He won't give the Met Office his equations.

The Met Office can't even predict the weather months ahead accurately, so how they know about "tipping points" and climate catastrophe in decades to come is a bit of a mystery. They must have a very good model, but Piers's model seems to be more accurate on many occasions.

[PigletJohn]

I mean Corbyn the self-pubicist who disputes the evidence of climate change but does not put forward an alternative hypothesis for examination.

he is a weather man not a climatoligist.

Weather is not the same as climate change.

[BoulevardOfBrokenSleep]

Claig, I'm really sorry, but if you don't know the difference between weather and climate you are just embarrassing yourself. I know you feel really strongly about this, and I know you like to keep informed, but you ought to try mixing in some general scientific info with the commentaries and such. Science can be interesting, honest!
(I feel like the nerdiest girl in the world when I say things like that)

Did you see that the recent Doha accord makes provision for rich countries to pay compensation to poorer ones for envt'l stuff? That won't be a lot of help to eg the Maldives, but it's a start.

[claig]

'but does not put forward an alternative hypothesis for examination.'

There is no need for an alternative hypothesis is his view because he says anthropogenic climate change is a nonsense and a gravy train. He says that the world is in a cooling phase for the next 30 years, not warming.

[GrimmaTheNome]

It takes about one minute to google 'fracking seismic' and find this but also this.

All the major UK newspapers and broadcasters reported the Blackpool case (which you will note the second link does say it was one of the 'confirmed cases where induced seismic activity has been linked to fracking'. So while it may be that fracking doesn't pose significant risk (presumably depends a lot on what sort of faults it hits) you're off base in castigating the BBC in particular for reporting it. It was relevant news, they reported it. That's what they do.

[claig]

Boulevard, the world really runs on politics, and climate change is about politics not science. Corbyn says it a a fraud.

Climate change is about wealth redistribution from the rich countries to the poor, from the poor people in the rich countries to teh rich people in the poor countries. It is to slow industrialisation and growth in the developed world and to pay the developing countries to slow industrialisation and growth for their people.




'But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world?s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.'

www.theblaze.com/stories/u-n-official-admits-we-redistribute-worlds-wealth-by-climate-policy/