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Can't believe what's happening in America!!!!!

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Forgetmenot · 01/09/2005 18:46

Have just watched the news and I'm so upset seeing all those people who just seemed to have been abandoned by the authorities, their government and the rest of their country!!!
They have no food or water and the police are only concerned with looters!!
Why isn't the whole country rallying round to help for gods sake!!!

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JoolsToo · 07/09/2005 10:05

'What's happenin' brother?'

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ruty · 06/09/2005 21:10

the problem is Bush has another three and a half years in government and he's not going for another run anyway so he doesn't seem to care so much about his image now. Either that or he is banking on people's memory's being short. How can there be so many intelligent people in the world and not one of them where it counts?

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FIMAC1 · 06/09/2005 20:40

Laura Bush was equally insensitive in her comments after visiting a Centre of the refugees stating that after speaking to two woman, one who had lost a daughter, another her mother, the overriding emotion from both of them was that they were glad to be in a place that was meeting their needs, as in they had food drink shelter etc - then went on to say that the situation there wasn't as bad as had been depicted on TV - errr, thats because she wasn't in New Orleans, but some Centre far from the flooding

Honestly I really could not believe what I was hearing - they are totally out of touch - I am at a loss for words on how thick I think they are - or how thick they must think the general public are

At least it has shown them up in their true colours - but what a tragedy to have to happen for them to show them

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muminlondon · 06/09/2005 12:32

well a piece on the bbc website seems to think this disaster will be the saving of the US media.

Interesting also to see Newsnight last night highlight the term 'refugees', still used by some US media channels, as opposed to 'evacuees' or 'homeless' or 'displaced'. As if they're from another country.

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monkeytrousers · 06/09/2005 08:48

Eh? That makes a change!

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noddyholder · 06/09/2005 08:46

Has anyone seen Sean Penn on the news ?Brilliant!

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Earlybird · 06/09/2005 07:50

The following comments from George Bush's mum (former first lady Barbara) are frighteningly insensitive and offensive. Goes a long way toward demonstrating where he gets it from:

Former first lady and mother to President Bush said Monday that evacuees from New Orleans have found a home in Houston.

"Almost everyone I?ve talked to says we're going to move to Houston," Barbara Bush told NPR.

"What I?m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.

"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this --this is working very well for them."

Editor & Publisher notes the former First Lady's remarks were aired this evening on National Public Radio's "Marketplace" program.

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alux · 06/09/2005 03:28

network news IME in the US is woefully superficial.

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sansouci · 05/09/2005 20:55

(re does Bush have a conscience)

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sansouci · 05/09/2005 20:54

The man has no brain. he's a puppet, IMO.

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monkeytrousers · 05/09/2005 20:35

Because Murdoch owns most of them!

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ruty · 05/09/2005 20:01

channel 4 news also said mass media in USA is not criticising fed govt or Bush. is this correct?

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alux · 05/09/2005 19:51

The Times-Picayune, of New Orleans

Editorial: Not acceptable

An open letter to the President

Dear Mr. President:

We heard you loud and clear Friday when you visited our devastated city and the Gulf Coast and said, "What is not working, we're going to make it right." Please forgive us if we wait to see proof of your promise before believing you. But we have good reason for our skepticism.

Bienville built New Orleans where he built it for one main reason: It's accessible. The city between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain was easy to reach in 1718.

How much easier it is to access in 2005 now that there are interstates and bridges, airports and helipads, cruise ships, barges, buses and diesel-powered trucks.

Despite the city's multiple points of entry, our nation's bureaucrats spent days after last week's hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city's stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies.

Meanwhile there were journalists, including some who work for The Times-Picayune, going in and out of the city via the Crescent City Connection. On Thursday morning, that crew saw a caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers headed into town to bring food, water and supplies to a dying city.

Television reporters were doing live reports from downtown New Orleans streets. Harry Connick Jr. brought in some aid Thursday, and his efforts were the focus of a "Today" show story Friday morning.

Yet, the people trained to protect our nation, the people whose job it is to quickly bring in aid were absent. Those who should have been deploying troops were singing a sad song about how our city was impossible to reach.

We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame.

Mayor Ray Nagin did the right thing Sunday when he allowed those with no other alternative to seek shelter from the storm inside the Louisiana Superdome. We still don't know what the death toll is, but one thing is certain: Had the Superdome not been opened, the city's death toll would have been higher. The toll may even have been exponentially higher.

It was clear to us by late morning Monday that many people inside the Superdome would not be returning home. It should have been clear to our government, Mr. President. So why weren't they evacuated out of the city immediately? We learned seven years ago, when Hurricane Georges threatened, that the Dome isn't suitable as a long-term shelter. So what did state and national officials think would happen to tens of thousands of people trapped inside with no air conditioning, overflowing toilets and dwindling amounts of food, water and other essentials?

State Rep. Karen Carter was right Friday when she said the city didn't have but two urgent needs: "Buses! And gas!"

Every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be fired, Director Michael Brown especially.
In a nationally televised interview Thursday night, he said his agency hadn't known until that day that thousands of storm victims were stranded at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center. He gave another nationally televised interview the next morning and said, "We've provided food to the people at the Convention Center so that they've gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day."

Lies don't get more bald-faced than that, Mr. President.
Yet, when you met with Mr. Brown Friday morning, you told him, "You're doing a heck of a job."

That's unbelievable.

There were thousands of people at the Convention Center because the riverfront is high ground. The fact that so many people had reached there on foot is proof that rescue vehicles could have gotten there, too.

We, who are from New Orleans, are no less American than those who live on the Great Plains or along the Atlantic Seaboard. We're no less important than those from the Pacific Northwest or Appalachia. Our people deserved to be rescued.

No expense should have been spared. No excuses should have been voiced. Especially not one as preposterous as the claim that New Orleans couldn't be reached.

Mr. President, we sincerely hope you fulfill your promise to make our beloved communities work right once again.

When you do, we will be the first to applaud.

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alux · 05/09/2005 19:36

I heard the same on Five Live this morning on the way to work, ruty. Apparently the Gov., Kathleen Blanco produced a letter she sent to the White House 2 days before the hurricane hit asking for federal assistance. She says she got no answer. It is unprecedented to have this level of acrimony in front of the media - everyone trying to pass the buck and/or protect his/her behind.

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ruty · 05/09/2005 19:20

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alux · 05/09/2005 18:06

some cud to chew on...

Last year funding to repair the levees were cut despite dire warnings after hurricane Ivan which struck the gulf coast on 23 Sept as a cat 3 hurricane.

When Ivan struck Cuba first as a cat 5, Cuba moved 10% of its population away from the coast - 1.3 million people. nobody died in cuba.

When Ivan hit the Gulf Coast as a cat 3, 18 people died. go figure.


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Janh · 05/09/2005 12:33

Has this been mentioned?:



Aid offered by Sri Lanka and Indonesia among others - not a lot but a thoughtful gesture. Turning down aid from Cuba and Venezuala is childish but no surprise.

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Sparks · 05/09/2005 12:16

Well it's kind of true. Castro has offered, but received no response. Here is the story

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Heathcliffscathy · 05/09/2005 12:09

venezuela offerred assistance but as the bush administration want to assasinate chavez they turned that down too....

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sansouci · 05/09/2005 11:51

At a party over the weekend, I overheard someone saying that Cuba had offered assistance but Bush turned it down. Is this true?

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kama · 05/09/2005 11:35

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betso · 05/09/2005 11:30

does george bush still totally refuse to believe in the concept of global warming?

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RTKangaMummy · 05/09/2005 11:21

I am watching that too

What the reporter says about being able to fly from london to houston and then to drive into New Orleans in a car. Arriving in the dark.

And then he was saying "why can't help get there if he can do it why can't the army or supplies?????"

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Springchicken · 05/09/2005 11:07

Haven't read this but a witness is talking about it on This Morning now.

I seriously didn't realise the sheer scale of it

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Janh · 05/09/2005 11:06

Oh of course, but Bush is the last person who should start pointing fingers. He signed up 100% for Hail to the Chief, but not at all for The Buck Stops Here.

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