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NicolaDMumsnet · 14/12/2022 16:17

Dr Kiran Rahim

Dr Kiran Rahim is a NHS Doctor, specialising in baby, child and adolescent health.

In recent weeks, the rising number of child deaths from group A streptococcal (GAS) infection – often called ‘strep A’ – has been hugely worrying and frightening for parents across the UK. Although invasive group A streptococcal infection is still uncommon, we know parents are concerned and have questions.

Although it’s not new, there is much more strep A around this winter than in recent years, causing a lot of children to be unwell. Unfortunately, some children have developed invasive group A strep, which is when the infection gets into the bloodstream and can make children very sick by attacking different organs. Group A strep can also cause complications like problems with your heart and kidney. Strep A usually causes a mild illness with fever and a sore throat (strep throat) but not a runny nose or too much of a cough. Your child may be poorly for a few days but will usually recover. Antibiotics may help them recover more quickly.

As a paediatric doctor, a mum of three, and part of #TeamHalo – a group of volunteer medics answering concerns on social media – my colleagues and I have been posting on my Instagram and TikTok to try and answer the huge flood of questions that have come in.

What is strep A?
Group A strep is a common bacterial infection that causes the following symptoms in children:

  • Fever
  • White spots at the back of their throat (pus on their tonsils)
  • Very large or red tonsils
  • Sore (tender) lumps under their chin
  • If they have become poorly quickly over the past couple of days
  • No cough or runny nose


Strep A can easily be treated with antibiotics which is why it's important to see a doctor. You can reduce the spread by encouraging good respiratory and hand hygiene.

How can I tell if my child has a viral illness or strep A?
Please remember we are in winter and your child is far more likely to catch a cold, virus or flu! Common winter illnesses are still circulating such as flu, RSV, croup and lots of other viruses. I know many of you are worried about strep A symptoms vs. viral and how to tell the difference.

Please don’t panic at the first sight of fever – fever is your body working its magic and trying to get you better. Your child is far more likely to have a viral illness if they have a:

  • Cough
  • Runny or stuffy nose
  • Watery eyes
  • Noises whilst they are breathing (please YouTube wheeze and stridor)


When to see a doctor?

As a parent or carer, consult your GP or call 111 if your child is:
  • Getting worse or is unlike themselves
  • Feeding or eating much less than normal
  • Peeing less or has reduced wet nappies
  • Is under 3 months and has a temperature of 38°C, or is older than 3 months and has a temperature of 39°C or higher
  • Hotter than usual when you touch their back or chest, or feels sweaty


Please go to A&E if:
  • Your child is having difficulty breathing – you may notice grunting noises or their tummy sucking under their ribs or using their neck muscles to breathe
  • There are long pauses (more than 10 seconds) when your child breathes
  • Your child’s skin, tongue or lips are blue
  • Your child feels very cold or clammy to touch
  • Your child is difficult to wake up or keep awake
  • Your child has severe pains in their arms, legs, neck or back
  • Your child has a painful, red area of skin, especially if it is getting bigger quickly


I know these symptoms are also common in lots of other viral illnesses. Therefore, please have a low threshold for seeking advice – you are the expert in your child. We would MUCH rather see you than not.

Recognising scarlet fever
Sometimes, strep A can cause scarlet fever. My fellow GP and #TeamHalo guide Dr Nighat Arif described these symptoms on ITV’s This Morning and in this post, which also points out how the rash and tongue can appear differently on people of colour.

The signs and symptoms:
  • A high temperature, a sore throat and swollen neck glands
  • A rash appears 12 to 48 hours later. It looks like small, raised bumps, similar to eczema, and starts on the chest and tummy, then spreads. The rash makes your skin feel rough, like sandpaper.
  • On white skin the rash looks pink or red. It may be harder to see on brown and black skin, but you can still feel it.
  • A white coating also appears on the tongue. This peels, leaving the tongue red, swollen and covered in little bumps (called "strawberry tongue").
  • The rash does not appear on the face, but the cheeks can look red. The redness may be harder to see on brown and black skin. The rash fades to leave peeling skin on hands and feet.


Can adults catch it?
Yes, even though group A strep is more common in children, adults can catch it as well. As my #TeamHalo colleague GP Dr Omon Imohi points out in this video, some adults are more at risk, but it is not usually serious in adults and, if needed, antibiotics can be given. Keep unwell children off school or nursery and away from vulnerable adults and children.

For more information: visit the NHS strep A website

Dr Kiran Rahim is a NHS Doctor, specialising in baby, child and adolescent health. She has worked across many prestigious London Hospitals and uses her own experience as a mother to three children to work in harmony with patients. She is part of Team Halo a UN-backed volunteer group of medics and scientists who began by answering concerns on social media about the Covid vaccine in response to misinformation. They continue to give their time for free to address broader health concerns.
Twitter: @projecthalo
Website: https://teamhalo.org/

Dr Kiran Rahim will be back next week to answer any questions
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AlwaysFlappable · 14/12/2022 16:49

Thank you. This is so very useful. I'm waiting for call back from 111. My 6 year old woke up this morning with tummy ache around his belly button and a temperature of 38.8. This dropped a little but has steadily risen to 39.6 and I'm sure he's indicated the pain is more right sided than central.

I'm spiralling I know I am. I just keep thinking what if?? Temperatures always send me into a complete panic! He's asleep at the moment and although I can rouse him he's very reluctant. No sore throat, but very enlarged tonsils.

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KZL · 17/12/2022 18:25

Our ds has had scarlet fever 3 times since 23 months (now 3) the first time required hospital admission for 3 days as we got sent home from a&e and told "viral" ..After three ambulances trips btw. We are now really aware of the first signs and symptoms, the 2nd and 3rd episodes were treated at home.
I know the news coverage is highlighting this and that's good for awareness, also obviously the tragic stories where little ones have died..but this is still really rare and essentially it can be treated, even when they are really poorly as our DS was the first time.
Hope this provides some reassurance. Our DS gets really red lips first (look chapped) then cheeks, and the sandpaper rash is on his back. He also had a big red spot on his testicle the first time. Just so you're aware the signs aren't always standard as given by online advice.
Keep safe everyone and enjoy the festive period with good health 🙏

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AlwaysFlappable · 17/12/2022 20:14

@KZL thanks for this. It's really reassuring to hear of little ones who have made a full and safe recovery. Your poor little one - I thought you only caught scarlet fever once.

I ended up taking my son to A&E on Thursday. He got up and although his temperature was much better his back was covered in a rash. Its since turned into hives (as a reaction to the virus). So, I've been giving him piriton and covering him in calamine lotion (when he let's me!)

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KZL · 17/12/2022 20:20

@AlwaysFlappable we thought the same, so were shocked when he got it again..twice more! The smell on his breath is also quite a giveaway, that's normally after the red cheeks or rash.
The rash is distinctly rough (well on him anyway) almost like raised tiny bumps, very different to viral rash.
A&E trips are never nice bless you, and the treatment afterwards always a challenge! Sadly we've had 3 hospital admissions in total, the last being for pneumonia, that was much worse than SF.
Hoping your little man feels better very soon!

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Ansumpasty · 22/12/2022 17:01

I take it there isn’t any difference between the strep that is circulating now and the strep that has always caused bacterial tonsillitis? My son went through a few years of repeated tonsillitis (not viral, white patches and enlarged lymph nodes that required antibiotics). So, he had repeated strep a? I was unaware at the time that it was something to be so concerned about. I never worried and now I’m anxious mess with the media coverage

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