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MumsnetGuestPosts · 17/04/2014 15:28

If you are a woman who lives with her male partner, I have a question for you – how well did you sleep last night? Did you slumber peacefully waking rested and restored? Or did you greet the dawn exhausted and frustrated after another night of broken sleep thanks to the person sharing your bed?

I’m going to lay my cards on the table straight away. My husband and I sleep in separate rooms and have done so for eight years.

If I was going to describe our ability to share a bed in contemporary parlance, I would have to say we are an ‘epic fail’. When my partner moved in, we had only been seeing each other for five months.

We trotted off down that well-worn path of most couples and hopped into the same bed on the first night of our new domestic arrangements; seven nights later we were bleary eyed, unable to function properly at work and re-thinking our decision to live together.

There was only one possible solution: separate beds. At first we agreed we would need separate beds during the week, but on weekends we would share. That decision lasted for two weeks. We simply could not sleep in the same bed and actually sleep.

The main cause of our problem was my partner Fraser’s snoring (there were other factors such as disparate bed times, room and bed temperature differences, fan on/fan off etc). As a light sleeper, the noise from Fraser’s snoring kept me awake and made me anxious. I felt bad. He felt bad. We despaired together.

Although the decision was swift, making it was not easy, and was accompanied by a myriad of questions and fears: What did this mean? Was there something wrong with us? Was the relationship doomed? What would other people say? But more importantly, was it ok to prioritise getting a good night’s sleep over sleeping next to each other?

After an unsure start, we began to talk. And nine years on we’re still talking about what sleeping in separate rooms means for us. Over time the conversations have changed.

In the beginning they were fervoured talks about how much we loved each other and how separate rooms ABSOLUTELY did not mean we didn’t desire each other or want to be together. After about six months, our comfort levels increased and we then talked about what we needed from each other to maintain intimacy in our relationship.

The reality is that there are no winners when it comes to sleep deprivation. If you are sleep deprived, you expose yourself to a long list of health risks including heart disease, diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure, cognitive impairment, psychiatric problems, stroke, heart attack, to name but a few. You also sell yourself short with your employer, you rob your partner of sharing the best version of yourself, and if you have children, you deprive them of a fully functioning mother who is taking the best care she can of herself.

There is a strong body of research that tells us the extent to which sleep is disturbed by sharing a bed with another person. However, when we head into the realm of ‘who’s disturbing whom’ in the bedroom, it appears that women are being far more ‘disturbed’ than they are doing the ‘disturbing’. Clinical research reveals that men are far more likely to snore and pass wind at night than women.

In addition, women – far more than men – lose sleep because they sacrifice their bed and sleeping needs in order to continue sharing a bed with their husband or boyfriend; heterosexual couples
were found to predominately sleep in temperature, noise and light conditions that favoured the male in the relationship.

The same study looked in to why women are so prepared to sacrifice sleep for the sake of sharing their bed with their partner – and it turns out that for women, sleep isn’t just about getting sleep. It’s about the social act of sharing a bed and room with another person. The sacrifice is also fuelled by the cultural implications and expectations that come along with the idea that when you ‘partner up’ with someone you’re supposed to share a small space with them every night. No matter what the implications.

Somewhere in our socialisation, we buy into the construct that a ‘happy’ couple is one that shares a bed every night. Part of the reason we are so caught up in this image is that so many ‘unhappy’ couples take themselves off to separate rooms as a sign of their disharmony. TV and movies rely heavily on this discourse to support a narrative. If you caught Hope Springs in 2011 with Meryl Streep and Tommy Lee Jones, you’ll know exactly what I mean. I suggest it’s a poor bargain.

Unfortunately, the default position from which separate sleepers often have to justify their decision is that “there must be something wrong”. And yes, there is something wrong – we can’t lie next to each other in the same bed and get enough sleep to function. But there’s nothing wrong with the relationship. We still love each other, want to be together and some of us separate sleepers even manage to fit in some procreating. (It’s true – people who sleep in separate beds still have sex. I promise. We do.)

Nine years on, Fraser and I have found that people are mostly convinced our relationship is not doomed for failure. As a couple we still argue and get cranky with each other over a whole range of issues – but I figure at least we are well rested and thinking clearly when we are trying to resolve those issues.

One thing I know is that we will need to keep talking about this part of our relationship because we are committed to each other and know that the ‘separate room’ thing requires work. I also know that I will keep talking about our sleep arrangements to other people in the hope that separate sleepers everywhere can hold up their heads with pride, know they are not alone, and be congratulated for recognising the value and importance of a good night’s sleep and doing something about it.

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ActuallyMummy · 25/04/2014 12:46

My husband is restless and noisy in his sleep so in fact he sleeps most often in a different room. I sleep well, he doesn't get nagged in the morning. Works for us.

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Thumbwitch · 22/04/2014 22:07

My sons think it's normal. It's all they've ever known, so it doesn't bother them. But then DS1 is still only 6 and I doubt they talk about their parents' sleeping arrangements at school just yet (DS2 is still only 18m)

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ridingthewave · 22/04/2014 20:02

I’m really interested to hear people’s opinions on this! Since our children came along we’ve had separate rooms, this started at the baby stage when we were both desperate for sleep and then it just became a habit. I love sleeping on my own and life is so much better with decent sleep.

However, I’ve been beating myself up that this means our marriage is failing and we’re going to somehow damage our children! E.g I’m worried that our kids may think that there’s something wrong, as all their friends’ parents share a bed and co-sleeping is ‘what mummies and daddies do’. I have never ‘admitted’ our sleeping arrangements to friends - I wonder though if I need to rethink this, maybe we’re not so weird after all?!

Have others here had searching questions from their children? If so how do you handle it?

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cathy3979 · 22/04/2014 18:56

so true...

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cathy3979 · 22/04/2014 18:56

So true..

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Guermantes · 22/04/2014 14:44

"Desperate rooms" ? (Desperation: a rope ends it.)

Was this a meaningful slip ?

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Mignonette · 22/04/2014 13:03

I would never assume that separate bedrooms = distant relationship just as much as the assumption that same bed = closeness.

W need to sleep together and usually go to bed at the same time. For us in our overly busy lives, sharing a bed is sometimes the only chance we get to be physically and emotionally present with each other. So often we find our time with each other compromised by other people and other things so going to bed, chatting, sex, holding hands and following each other round the bed is our time.

However our relationship, like any other is not THE template for how it should be done. We are all so different after all!

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TrinityRhino · 22/04/2014 10:12

dh and I had seperate rooms
I honestly didnt think to worry it was 'wrong'

he snored loudly, had sleep apnea that terrified me, had tinitus (sp?) so slept with the telly on all night.

I also coslept with all my babies, and sleep ridiculously lightly since having kids.

it just worked for us Smile

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Thumbwitch · 22/04/2014 01:19

I reckon the only reason most people slept in the same room/bed is because they couldn't afford housing with enough bedrooms NOT to originally. Look at all the big stately homes - they have separate rooms for the master and mistress of the house! Grin If you could afford to have separate rooms, why not?

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Cherryblossomsmile · 21/04/2014 21:55

We have been happily married for 8 years and together for 10. We sleep separately and have done from the very beginning.

I prefer to sleep on my own and Dh snores like a drain, shouts out in his sleep and moves around constantly. We do share if we have to but we even book extra bedrooms on holiday. All the kids are used to it. They know we love each other and the reasons why. We don't advertise it, dh keeps quiet usually, but do I talk about it with friends and family and try not to feel ashamed.

There is a sense of shame surrounding this issue. I think its because
People assume that separate beds equal no intimacy or sex. They are very wrong. Some friends have recently admitted they are envious and would do the same if only their partner would agree to it.

The only derogatory comments I've had are from family. Bless themWink

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frankie5 · 21/04/2014 21:26

Another one who sleeps in separate rooms. If we shared a bed every night there is no way we would still be married! When we share a bed i am awake most of the night! I don't tell people this as people will assume there is something wrong with our marriage. I don't understand why couples have to share a bed. We don't sit in the same chair to eat dinner and we don't eat from the same dinner plate. We have a spare bedroom so why should we struggle to sleep in the same small space when we can have our own beds and a great nights sleep.

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TonytheFish · 20/04/2014 21:11

After living in Norway for two years and now back in the Uk, the one thing we have brought back with us is having two single duvets!

I like a thick quilt, he likes a thinner one, I like it tucked all around my shoulders and back, he likes it down at his waist! It was like a light bulb moment and how come we had never thought of it before!

However, and I have talked to DH about this, if we had the space, and once the kids leave home, I will be having my own bedroom! Not necessarily for every night, but sometimes I just want to sleep alone.

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AliceWhiting · 20/04/2014 20:02

Separate bedrooms here too. We would be divorced if not!!

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Iloveonionchutney · 20/04/2014 19:20

I've been with DH for 6 years, married just under a year. I have health problems and get insomnia, DH snores and fidgets a lot in his sleep, also he is boiling in the night where as I'm always cold so it started as him sleeping in the spare room when I wasn't well and we've found we both sleep better for it, we may try and have a night together a couple of times awake but it usually ends with me kicking him out or getting up and going to the spare room myself.
It's nice to know we aren't the only ones, and people who do know think it's odd but can understand why when we explain it. Our Dd calls the spare room Daddy's room and the master mummy's room.

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Sallyingforth · 20/04/2014 19:02

I would hate to sleep apart from my DP - after 6 years it's still an important part of our relationship. We usually fall asleep touching or even holding hands, and often wake up still in contact.

We both snore, but it doesn't seem to be a problem.

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JimbosJetSet · 20/04/2014 07:49

I would love to have separate beds but my DH would be devastated if I suggested it. When he goes away with work overnight he complains that he doesn't sleep well because he is lonely in the bed... But at home once I have got through the hell of putting the kids to bed by myself in the evening, I love the luxury of having the bed to myself for the night and I sleep like the dead Smile

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BOEUFster · 20/04/2014 01:25

I sometimes go through to the spare room if I can't sleep and feel restless, and I like having the radio on, whereas DP doesn't. I don't think I'd go so far as to actually have separate bedrooms fulltime though because it's nice to snuggle up together, even if it's not for the whole night.

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darksideofthemooncup · 20/04/2014 01:23

Me and my Dh have been together for 14 years, married for 6 and I really believe that if we hadn't had had the option of separate rooms to sleep in we wouldn't still be together.
I am a light sleeper and he is a weapons grade snorer/duvet hogger. Sometimes I worry that we seem 'odd' to outsiders but in all honesty I would rather be happy and rested than care about what anyone else thinks

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gamerchick · 19/04/2014 22:18

Me and the husband have separate bedrooms.. we're lucky that the house is big enough. His subconscious brain does not work well with others in the bed. He rattles the walls, he climbs walls face down on the mattress and he'll put his hands under me and gently try to slide me off the bed. Many a time i've woken up clinging to the edge stop falling off.

It doesn't work and we get along much better sleeping apart and since we still adore each other nearly 5 years on, I'm not bothered what other people think.

The amusing bit was, he was bothered until this one night when I kept him awake. He's been much on board since then Grin

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KTBennett · 19/04/2014 22:08

all i can say me and my hubby rarely share a bed together as i suffer with hot flushes thanks to my thyroid and he snores all the time we have three kids been together 14 years and been married for 10 this year we have a healthy love life so i am glad i am not alone .... other people think its odd when they tell people daddy sleeps downstairs but it works for us i believe we have a better relationship for it .... and when we do sleep in the same bed we both suffer for it and think why need we do that

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girliefriend · 19/04/2014 18:26

This is interesting as I really struggle to share a bed with my bf, he is a cuddler whereas I like my own space to sleep. Plus he wakes early and I like to lie in, I don't know that I could cope with us living together unless we had seperate beds. I just don't sleep when he is in my bed.

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allhailqueenmab · 19/04/2014 12:44

KaFayOLay - "dread holidays" - sad, but I feel the same way. It is so awful trying to have the nicest week of your year when you could just lie down and cry with that fried, frayed, sleepless feeling. I have counted minutes till holidays are over. Literally.

I also identify with the poster who is flooded with relief when her dp stomps off and she is left in blissful isolation in bed!

I think P and I may be on the verge of splitting. One of the reasons for this, for me, underlying, is his accumulative lack of consideration for my need for sleep over the years. Reading a list like the one above of what lack of sleep does to you just makes me want to cry. I have posted on here before that if you lived with someone who, every time you were about to eat, swept your plate to the floor and trod in your dinner while he sat down and tucked into his own, no one would expect you to do anything but LTB. Especially if he was doing this when you were particularly hungry in the throes of pregnancy or breastfeeding. A man who carelessly, selfishly, forced his woman to go hungry would be justly reviled. why does no one care about our sleep?

We do actually have separate rooms and I love it. One place where I can't be bossed around and told everything I need and want is stupid and wrong

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KaFayOLay · 19/04/2014 09:29

As an aside, my parent's have slept apart for probably 20+ years, so I have never seen it as anything odd.

The only time I think it's a little "ooh" is when I hear my dd saying "that's mum's bedroom" when she has friends over. She mentions it as that room is out of bounds to them.

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Thumbwitch · 19/04/2014 01:13

So glad you've written this!

I have slept separately from DH since I was 6m pg with DS1. This was mainly due to the intense pain I used to get in my hip joint that would keep me awake most of the night - I ended up on an old saggy studio couch, with 2 folded duvets under me, to stay comfortable. Then when Ds1 was born, I co-slept with him - DH couldn't deal with it, nor the disturbances to his sleep, so he went off to the spare room. I managed to get DS1 into his own room at 6m, but since I was regularly disturbed by him in the night, DH still preferred to get his full night's sleep in his own room, so we stayed separate; and when we emigrated abroad, the way the rooms were set up meant that I started sharing with Ds1 again, while DH (who apparently "needed his sleep" far more than I do Hmm) stayed separate.

We did buy a King size bed on the understanding that we would be sharing it again at some point - but since it has a "pillow-top" mattress that is far too soft and hot for me, it's not going to happen any time soon.

We have very disparate sleeping habits - he goes to bed at least 3h before I do, and gets up at least 2h before me. He doesn't snore that much but is like a dog with the duvet, yanks it about, sleeps with it either wrapped round him or between his legs Hmm and doesn't like a sheet or blanket, both of which I require for comfort.
I like to read to sleep - the light disturbs him. He likes to watch videos until he's ready to sleep - that disturbs me.
I actually can't see us happily sharing a room again because we ARE so different - but if we do, we'll not only need separate bedding, but separate mattresses to suit our different requirements! Two single mattresses in a king frame should work; I can tuck my sheet and blanket in and have a single duvet, he can have his duvet on its own, I'll get my firm orthopaedic mattress and he can have his fluffy soft too-hot one.
In reality though, separate rooms is far better for us. :)

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LackaDAISYcal · 18/04/2014 23:48

My parents moved into separate rooms after 30 years of marriage (and sleep deprivation) and said it was the best thing that they ever did.

I toss and turn all night; my DH snores for England and neither of us have a good night's sleep. Recently I had an op and DH slept on the sofa and we have reluctantly agreed we sleep better apart. Unfortunately, with 3 DC ion a 3 bed semi, we just don't have the space...

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