If someone has no pulse, how long should they be worked on for to get it back ??

[nutcracker]

Say for example someone was found in a bath with no pulse (in a hospital), and they weren't sure how long they had been there for, how long do they work for to get a pulse back ??

[WaitingForGodKnows]

Consider it broken up. Hope you get some sleep LGJ x

(You do know me, btw, and quite well. But I changed my name partly because of real-life snoopers so... Cryptic, huh? )

[misdee]

go to bed sherlock.

get some decent zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[SherlockLGJ]

Right I am away to bed.

[SherlockLGJ]

Sorry that should have read....

Alright alright break it up.......

WFGK

I should not have posted on this thread, I am a bit tired at the moment and possibly a bit scratchy QV knows my history and probably went into protective mode.

Thank you for asking and thank you to QV for being my friend.

Who are you BTW ???

[SherlockLGJ]

WFGK


Alright alright break it up.......


I should not have posted on this thread, I am a bit tired at the moment and possibly a bit scratchy QV knows my history and probably went into protective mode.

Thank you for asking and thank you to QV for being my friend.

Who are you BTW ???

[WaitingForGodKnows]

Oh, believe me, VVV, I intend to. Don't know why I bothered coming back, tbh.

[VeniVidiVickiQV]

Well, I'm sorry, but the phrases "sherlock" and "haven't a clue" in the same sentence was far too ironic for my liking

I'm sure you had the best intentions WFG, but, sometimes I feel its just best to say nothing iykwim?

[WaitingForGodKnows]

VVV, I thought LGJ's post slightly unusual and, since she also seemed upset on another recent thread, I wondered if she was okay. As did floss. I 'prefixed' because that's what it appears you have to do round here these days with pretty much everyone, to avoid getting snarled at. Didn't work though.

It's come to something when even an enquiry about someone's okay-ness is the wrong thing to say

[hub2dee]

Oh, it is very relevant nutty, but I guess I'm just thinking legal stuff, or what family / friends of the woman might learn if they were to ever come across this etc. etc.

I'm probably being overly sensitive etc.

[eemie]

Wouldn't criticise any crash team for trying for 20 mins in such circs.

They would have had little to go on except her young age and good general health (healthy enough to have just had a baby). Both of these are good reasons to keep going, not on value-judgement grounds but because they hugely increase the chance of a successful resuscitation.

And if you get it wrong, which of course you will sometimes, the outcome is the same in most cases. People who suffer major brain damage before resuscitation are much more likely to die within a month than to live a long dependent life. Sorry to put it so bluntly.

I think they did the right thing. The outlook is bad from what you've told us, but not necessarily hopeless, and not worse than if she was already dead.

[FreakyFloss]

LGJ hope you know I wasn't getting at you. Thinking of you. x

[nutcracker]

Was waiting for someone to say that hub, but at the end of the day, in my original post I didn't give any details at all. I only did so when I was asked what the circumstances were as people said it was relevant.

[VeniVidiVickiQV]

WFGK - why on earth does it matter what LGJ suspects happened?

Prefixing it with "absolutely no offence intended" really doesnt prevent offence occuring.

[hub2dee]

Poor mum and poor baby to have lost mamma at birth, and dad too who must be beside himself.

Not sure if the details should be discussed in a public forum though IYSWIM. (no crit intended, nutty).

[BudaBeast]

Oh God - how sad.

[nutcracker]

Apparently after 3 days they can have a bath if they like. I agree it is wrong though, i have had 3 sections and remember having a bath when i cam home after 4 days and I had to get xp to help me in and out and wash my hair for me.

She had the cot with the baby in, in the door way propping the door open

[ghosty]

I was thinking just that ... what was the woman doing in the bath unattended only 3 days after a section? I have had two sections and it is very very hard to pull yourself up from lying down so soon after ... in fact I don't think you are allowed to do that, you have to turn to your side and roll up to a sitting position ...

Not the mention the fact that a c/section scar shouldn't get soaking WET ... you are advised to shower, not bath ...

What a terribly sad story nutcracker, I hope your mum is ok after this experience. And I hope the young mum is ok

[iPodthereforiPoor]

When I worked as a OT on surgical wards people who had undergone major abdo. surgery were nowhere near nbeing allowed to bath, never mind alone. Hopefully this will put some guildelines about post surgical activity in place to prevent a similar tragedy

After my section I was amazed at the differences between the treatment of post section patients and the surgical patients two floors down. Just because you've become a mum via an operation doesn't give you super human powers to cope with major surgery.

[nutcracker]

All they know right now is that it wasn't a clot, which was the first thing that they thought of.

At the moment they have said they think she may have simply fallen asleep and gone under the water and been unable to pull herself back up.

[WaitingForGodKnows]

Nearly died, I should say. Very sad.

[WaitingForGodKnows]

Sherlock, absolutely no offence intended but how can you possibly have a clue what this poor woman died of?

(fwiw, I agree with floss - hope you are okay because some of your recent posts give the impression that you aren't)

[Beauregard]

[EmmyLou]

How very sad.

[FreakyFloss]

Sherlock, you seem to be reliving things a bit I've noticed. Probably speaking out of turn so just tell me to shut eeet but - are you ok??

[whoopsfallenoveragain]

What a terrible thing to happen.