My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Find advice on the best extra curricular activities in secondary schools and primary schools here.

Extra-curricular activities

Grade 1 Violin failure

245 replies

Honeymum · 04/04/2011 18:41

I've just had a text from my DD's violin teacher to say she's failed grade 1.

She has been with him for almost 2 years and has practiced regularly, particularly since we've been preparing for the exam (since last September). To my untrained ear the pieces sounded fine. After the exam the teacher (who accompanied her on the piano) said she had done well and he was pleased.

The scales and sight reading are done with the examiner only so he didn't hear these.

By text he said she talked through the pieces but I will get full story tomorrow.

I wanted to know how common it is to fail grade 1? Is it DD or the teacher? Should I try to switch?

Thanks

OP posts:
Report
Xenia · 26/10/2018 12:11

that's lovely. It just shows to keep at it. We had a few failurse of exams. Sometimes it's just a stricter examiner or of course it can mean someone is just not up to that grade. It is discouraging. An examiner gave one of my children 101 (pass, just) and that made so much difference in their enthusiasm to do the next grade (which they then did better at).

Report
Rightgirlwrongplanet1 · 26/10/2018 09:42

@Honeymum Hey I would be angry too. Especially after all that time and money which you invested. What happened in the end? I'm interested because my daughter has started violin and I want to know what to expect

Report
Mercime · 26/06/2017 20:52

Damn! I am old enough to remember this thread and was hoping for an update rather than this odd addition. Ashley45 maybe start your own thread?

Report
Ashley45 · 26/06/2017 20:46

Queen Victoria Hospital Orthdontics
Hi my 10 year old son has been referred to hospital, as apparently his teeth haven't come through and maybe being reabsorbed!
Really worried, not sure what they will find and what they will do, does anyone have any experience of this?

Doesn't help I let John Mew , Orthotropics touch his teeth( he has now been suspended)

Report
onlymusic · 17/07/2016 12:40

This is such an inspirational thread! It is all very well if everything goes smoothly, but to have such a difficult start and to stick to her dream at such a young age and persevere, your dd is such a little hero, OP, I wish her all the luck with her future dreams, I am sure she will achieve everything she wants! Flowers

Report
Wafflenose · 15/07/2016 23:36

Grade 5, wow! Thanks for coming back to update us again.

Report
80schild · 15/07/2016 23:22

Just read this thread as I am.thinking about embarking on a journey to becoming a music teacher. I am using it as a list of not what to do. Pleased to hear your daughter loves it.

Report
blearynweary · 24/04/2016 07:50

Ha! I remember this! How brilliant. Thanks so much for the update and we'll done to your dd!

Report
Noteventhebestdrummer · 24/04/2016 07:44

Congratulations on the Grade 5, that's a wonderful level to reach. I've followed your story from the start and you made a difference to my teaching so thank you.

Report
Greenleave · 22/04/2016 15:14

Many times its important that we dont give up on them. Your story is truly heart warming, many congratulations to you both. Please keep updating!

Report
LooseAtTheSeams · 22/04/2016 15:00

What a lovely story! Congratulations to both of you! It's a really heart-warming thread.

Report
ealingwestmum · 22/04/2016 11:18

Just love this thread. Well done to your DD honey. Persevering with something that may not be at first, intuitive is such a great lesson in life. Both of you absolutely do deserve a pat on the back!

Report
howabout · 21/04/2016 14:30

This is a fantastic story Honey. It is so lovely to read about how well your DD is doing even after such an inauspicious start. I failed the school music aptitude test aged 7 and only got into lessons because my friend asked the teacher for me when someone else dropped out. I am still playing 40 years later and teach my own DDs who are the same age and standard as yours. Loads of really good points on this thread about what to look for in a teacher and how to prepare for the exams. I didn't put mine in for the lower grades and didn't teach to the syllabus. It was a huge ask for them to go in cold to grade 5 but we side stepped some of the issues of earlier grades with non instrument specialist examiners.

Having rtft I now realise my DDs are not actually that deprived having to put up with me for a teacher. Thank you Flowers

Congratulations to your DD and please keep updating. Smile

Report
Icouldbeknitting · 20/04/2016 11:24

I just read the thread (I wasn't here in 2011) and I'm so glad that everything worked out well in the end. Thank you for the update, I do love a happy ending.

Report
HumphreyCobblers · 19/04/2016 15:52

That is great! Well done to your DD!

I have been very entertained by this thread, having children who do the Suzuki method of playing, which has NO exams but still manages to produce lovely musicians.

Report
HoneywithLemon · 19/04/2016 15:28

I thought I would update this thread as I know it's been helpful to some.

DD (now 14) has now passed grade 5, just missing a merit by one mark! She's really enjoying her playing, is a member of a couple of ensembles at school (lots of opportunities for music at school generally) and plays with a local youth orchestra and a string group each week. She went to Germany on tour with the youth orchestra last year and loved it. As a non-musician myself I am really pleased with her progress and despite the blood, sweat, tears (mine) and money, I pat myself on the back for providing her with the opportunity and sticking with it through the hard times. I should add that she herself has never wanted to give up.

Report
loomyviolin12 · 21/12/2014 11:37

I find that failing is not such a big thing. Maybe it was stress or the first time he took an exam? the violin teacher should be switched if she is really bad and doesnt know her thing.

www.violinlessonssingapore.net/

This is a violin school my kids learn from. Maybe they can help :)

Report
coconut0 · 29/10/2014 22:00

I've just read this entire thread and I am so pleased it all worked out in the end. My 8 year old DD has been learning the violin for a year and has just done her prep test. For anyone who doesn't know what this is (it didn't exist in my time) it is like a beginner's exam where the child learns 3 pieces off by heart, 2 pieces with music and does simple aural exercises. It isn't pass or fail and they get a certificate with detailed comments before leaving the room. Although it costs about £40 it gives them an idea of what it will be like in a real exam and has given DD extra confidence (she is fairly confident anyway) and has made her look forward to the next stages of her musical journey.

Report
Wafflenose · 02/09/2014 13:57

I remember this lovely thread! I'm so glad she is still playing and enjoying the violin, and congratulations to her on passing Grade 4!

Report
JulieMichelleRobinson · 02/09/2014 13:16

Basically... if you can afford it, spend a minimum of £300-£400. An instrument in that price range will probably last up until grade 8 if correctly set up (I'm pretty sure I took my grade 8 before we upgraded).

Make sure you put on decent strings - if you've been using Astreas or equivalent, move to Dominants or equivalent (i.e. £50 strings not £20 strings).

To pick names out of a hat: Hidersine, Paesold, Gewa, or a luthier-named instrument.

If buying a bow separately, it should be 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of the instrument, which seems a bit crazy but makes a difference.

Ideally, you should actually go to a specialist violin shop and try a few out.

Report
HoneywithLemon · 02/09/2014 12:07

A solid pass at grade 4 :) DD has been promoted to the concert orchestra at our local authority Saturday morning music school as well so that should accelerate her progress. Practice is still problematic but overall she is much more organised. She's already written herself and her younger sister a schedule for homework and practice for the new term so fingers crossed! I now have to buy her a full-size instrument - any tips?

Report
HoneywithLemon · 14/05/2014 22:29

Thanks Maggcat! It can be a slog at times. But it's something I really wanted to do for my DDs. It's not really something you can pick up in later life....(Though once I've finished paying for their lessons I might start myself!). And thank you JulieMichelle - all tips gratefully received!

Report

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

maggthecat · 09/05/2014 13:01

Glad you came back to share with us and to hear that dd has continued.
Music making can bring children so much joy (and of course pain) that I think it's worth sticking with it if possible.
You've done so well to support and encourage her - well done to you both!

Report
JulieMichelleRobinson · 09/05/2014 00:14

One suggestion - If your DD is not doing so well with the 30min practise on her own, maybe breaking it down into two 15min slots might be easier on her? Provided that doesn't disrupt the regularity!

Report
HoneywithLemon · 08/05/2014 13:26

Hello!

Sorry for being rubbish and not checking this thread in aeons.

Well, DD got 113/150 at grade 3, and she's going to be taking grade 4 in July. To my ears she sounds like she will be ready, and I think her teacher is happy with her progress at the moment. She's been preparing for a while but she did play other pieces for a couple of terms, including a couple of her own choosing, before embarking on grade 4.

Getting her to do her practice can still be a struggle. We aim for 5 or 6 times a week and average 5, I would say. Often the sessions are 30 mins, but I often find myself shouting upstairs to her to carry on for a bit longer. There is a lot of nagging from time to time on my part, and now and again DH gets stuck in and threatens to stop the lessons! DD is not very good with her own company, and sometimes I pop in and listen and ask her to play for me, which helps. DD2 by contrast is currently working towards gr.2 on the piano and is better at settling down to play by herself. She's more of an introvert and gets lost in things quite easily whereas DD1 has a very busy restless sort of mind IYKWIM.

But, we had a conversation just last night about whether it's easier and more fun to practice now that DD1 is so much better, and she agreed it is. I hope that this continues. The music that she is making now is so much improved, I really enjoy hearing her play.

She started secondary school last September and it's a VERY music-oriented school (particularly for a state school). There is so much going on and the standard is very high. All kids are encouraged to join groups and ensembles which meet at lunchtime. We went to a recent concert and I enjoyed various ensembles/orchestras etc and then DD1 appeared with her string group and she was sat with her friend who is grade 1 standard playing the same part. I tackled her afterwards and she explained that she'd missed the sign up for orchestra and joined the string group instead and she didn't realised the standard was lower (!). She cried and said she thought orchestra would be too difficult so I've had a word with her music teacher who is going to make sure she joins the orchestra next term. DD isn't very happy pushing herself and I think doesn't always appreciate how much she can do. I'm hoping that as time goes on, if she keeps up her playing at school (she also gets to play in her music lessons) she will keep on improving.

Someone asked what the difference was between her two teachers. I think teacher number #2 is much more experiences than teacher #1, even though they are roughly the same age. I think teacher #2 has had so many pupils over such a long time, as well as two children herself who are excellent musicians, that it really helps her adjust to different children's learning styles. Beyond that I can't really say much more. I am not a musician, it's difficult for me to tell.

Once again, apologies for going AWOL. I am so glad that people have found this thread helpful. It was tremendously helpful for me at the time and it's lovely to have it to look back on, so a big, big thank you to everyone who has contributed. Thanks Thanks Thanks

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.