To consider lifestyle changes following the referendum?

[Oliviaerinpope]

My DH and I have had a long discussion this morning. We voted remain and are quite nervous about the current political instability that the vote has triggered and the potential consequences of this. We have decided we'll;

1. Take our house off the market and stay where we are.
   

1. Stop any unnecessary spending (visits to coffee shops, meals out, luxury items), in part, because we don't want to help the UK economy when we don't agree with the Political climate, but also, to save more for DC's future. We just don't know what they'll have to face in 10/20 years.
   

I suspect we are BU. Are you making any changes?

[Tabsicle]

I have also lives abroad. I think that's what makes me sad. I came home thinking the UK was better but I've recently seen it betting far worse. Being like Australia is not something to aim for.

[CreepyPasta]

Tabsicle

Do you think other places are better? I've worked in various countries throughout the EU and also Australia. Think it's racist here? Try some of those countries. There will always be knobs. It makes me sad that people don't realise this

[Tabsicle]

CreepyPasta - she's not alone. My mixed race partner has noticed a significant increase in racist comments too.

[CreepyPasta]

Namechanger22

You've really seen an increase in racism within the last month? You're scaremongering, not a word has been said to my partner or daughter since the vote, both mixed race. If you're getting racist comments now you were already around racists. As I've said before, a switch hasn't just gone off on 17 million people. Grow up

[FranHastings]

I've already started cutting back on things I was a bit frivolous with. We do face an uncertain future now, we may have to move if DH loses his job. Best save up now. No harm in cutting out the crap I was buying. It is probably for the best anyway.

[NameChanger22]

And what worries me about the leave camp is, when they realise that they aren't getting what they want the racism will increase. They won't accept what they've done or take any responsiblity, the scapegoating will increase. I've been the victim of scapegoating and I know how it can escalate.

[NameChanger22]

I have definitely witnessed racism increasing. I've heard more racist remarks in the last month than I've heard in the whole of the rest of my life. People think it's ok now. Only last week a workmate told me that I shouldn't send my daughter to the school near her because it's full of coloured people. I've heard racist abuse shouted in the street. I've seen streams of it on the internet. I've seen racist posters on TV from leaders of political parties. I've heard people discussing whether the poster is actually racist or not??? Some of my migrant friends have spent days crying over what they feel is happening to them. Shall I go on?

[MaryMariMary]

What Rain just said about far right.

Seen it close up, living in two EU countries in recent years. Back in UK, shocking here and how openly expressed. Far right sentiments were whipped up so much by end of campaign, erupting in a frenzy of racial hatred now somehow sanctioned by the result.

Thinking it can't happen here could be a dangerous blind spot. Scapegoating groups of people, migrant or already settled, elderly or disabled, crept up insidiously with ongoing propaganda, planting suspicion and division. Not just rallies and bravado speeches.

[RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs]

NEWLIFE good post.

Badders where have you been the far right has never been so prevalent across the continent since WWII.

[CreepyPasta]

Growing because of this result

[CreepyPasta]

Namechanger22

It scares me hearing things like what you are saying. Racism isn't growing, the vote to leave didn't flick a switch and turn 17 million people into racists. Sadly, those people will have expressed their views regardless of the outcome. But this is not the return to the 1930's as I've seen many comments about on here. It horrifies me that people are making those comparisons.

[NameChanger22]

I was also born and brought up here. My parents and grandparents were too. But if you go back further in any family you will find migrants. We all come from migrants. I hate what is going on now, how people have been fooled. I hate the growing racism. I'm very scared about what is to follow, we've seen this happen in history before, why don't people learn from it?

[WhatsBestForAll]

Can relate to that too NameChanger. I value community more than ever so don't want to opt out, but could not plan to stay in the current climate and future plans changing due to that. With British mother and EU father I was born and grew up here but don't feel I belong now and have a sense of cognitive dissonance and just can't relate to the inhumanity to fellow man being expressed.

[NameChanger22]

This week I have changed my plans for the future. Things have changed now, life won't ever be the same. I don't feel like I belong here anymore.

[WhatsBestForAll]

OP I don't think YABU. Whole process and then intensity of last few days seems to have made a lot of people consider lifestyle changes and think deeply about what sort of society they want to belong to and participate in.

Being a consumer is almost a civic duty in the first world. Then in economic uncertainty or recession 'spending' is doing your bit for recovery.

Started the 1 year challenge (buying nothing new and what you said about luxuries) in our household a few weeks ago for various reasons. Results already have been surprising and incredible and feel much happier lifestyle wise and not at all deprived. I do feel somehow less at the mercy of the current political and economic climate and empowered by living without non essentials but not 'opting out' IYSWIM.

[Badders123]

We are all fucked
Time to accept it and move on

[Comfortzone]

Had people realised also that a recovering economy was happening and with more push they could have got rid of David Cameron in the next election ANYWAY, then they might have focussed their minds towards how much £££££ would be taken away by the EU

[Comfortzone]

boiledfart the fact that you're bleating on about 'sore losers' just shows how trivialised the whole referendum had become - people just clearly didn't realise the seriousness of their voting choice.

No one wins. No one. Both sides now losers. So a truly wonderful situation for everyone really

[Madbengalmum]

Three words.

Self
Fulfilling
Prophecy


If you dont get on with your life.

[Comfortzone]

Boiledfart your post is very much us & them. What if those who voted leave as a punishment vote actually thought about the impact of their vote on the entire country, not just on the well off?

because the result clearly hasn't just affected the well off, it actually will badly affect those who had nothing in the first place.

So understand please that NO ONE wins here.

Not those who live in low income areas, and neither those with secure jobs previously reliant on EU finding. Simply because shock horro - that money from the EU will NO LONGER be available. For anyone. it really is that simple.

See now how EU funding didn't discriminate? See now how the high taxes paid by bankers etc and those who have studied for years (many also from working class backgrounds) to get to the top of their careers - high taxes which won't now be put into the pot to fund the benefits and lifestyles of those who are unemployed

[nanetterose]

Totally agree with boiled
You've hit the nail on the head!

[Rdoo]

We've had this discussion, we live somewhere likely to be v negatively impacted by vote leave. High level of financial services. My DH job is significantly less secure and mine will be affected. We have decided to hunker down, no unnecessary spending.

I really can't see how leave will help those in disadvantaged areas...
It won't but that doesn't matter because they're out vote was a opportunity to stick it to those who dare to have more than them.

[GahBuggerit]

probably wont help us, but as i say it cant get much worse!

failure to see that has led to where we are