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Relocating to Guildford in April - sorry it is long

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MoshiMoshi · 25/02/2014 06:47

After spending nearly two and a half years in California, we will be relocating back to the UK and living in Guildford. We previously lived in west London but the schools the children attended do not have any vacancies for them so we decided to look elsewhere.

While Surrey seems to have plenty of great schools it is not straightforward as we have 4 DCs: DS (10 nearly 11), DD1 (8 nearly 9), DD2 (7) and DD3 (4 nearly 5). If you can bear with me, I would be very grateful for advice.

For DS the tricky bit is finding a place for the summer term of year 6 that will then prepare him for entry to a secondary school at 13. He previously attended Colet Court at 7 but having been away for 2 years attending school in California, failed to qualify for re-entry at 11. Children start school much later here and the pace of learning is much slower. We didn't tutor him as he is a straight A pupil here which is probably where we fell down in not understanding the differences in the syllabuses. We are fairly sure a prep school would suit him perfectly and have contacted Aldro, Lanesborough and Cranmore. We have been told that assessments have taken place and are waiting to hear whether there might be an opening at Aldro for year 7 due to places not being taken up. Lanesborough told us to get in touch in April. Cranmore potentially have a space for him in year 6 to start in the summer term. None of this presents anything concrete apart from Cranmore which DH does not want him to attend as it is an RC school (we are CofE) and he has heard bad press about it.

For the DDs the tricky bit is finding a school for all of them. We have been in touch with St Catherine's, Tormead and GHS. Only GHS has openings for all three subject to assessment. They have been v accommodating and have booked us in for this the day before term starts but of course a quick read on here and I am now wondering whether an assessment is fair to the girls given their pace of learning in the US. The girls have dropped back a year to be in the same grade as their peers of similar age meaning things have been repeated and slow. In the case of DD3, she hasn't even started school yet here.

We also have the option of joining the waiting list for Pewley Down and Holy Trinity. I'm not sure whether we would ever move off the list however given how popular it appears to be. Obviously the cost saving is hugely persuasive but I'm not familiar with the schools and whether they would ultimately enable the children to enter a school in the private sector where we would end up sending them with a fighting chance.

  1. Can anyone advise on the prep schools for boys? Any thoughts on best approach for a bright sporty boy returning to the UK system?
  2. Can anyone advise on the best course of action for the girls? All are bright although have not been taught as much living in California. DD3 hasn't attended school yet although is very capable and can identify numbers 1-10 and count upwards of 20 and read some words. DD2 is a prolific reader and very conscientious. DD3 is very creative and strong visually (er, read not great at maths) and all are emotionally mature having been to 3 different schools here in the US as we have moved around.
  3. Would the state option present advantages (other then the obvious financial one)?
  4. WTF should I do as there is nothing concrete to go on? Confused


If you have got this far, I cannot thank you enough. And if you have any words of wisdom, I promise to take you for a coffee when I am back in the UK! Grin
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Cheekywindypiglet · 21/01/2016 02:20

MoshiMoshi I just wanted to say thank you so much for following up on your thread so we could see where you had picked and how it is going. It's always very useful to see the "end result" so thank you.

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MoshiMoshi · 21/02/2015 08:21

Nearly a year after my original post I thought it might be useful for the purposes of completeness, for those like me who might be searching for advice, to update. After two terms at Cranmore DS was successful in winning an offer of a place at RGS through the 12+ route. I can't recommend Cranmore enough in terms of what they achieve and their effect on boys. My son is with a great bunch of lads treated with respect and indulged in plenty of sport and couldn't be happier. The DDs continue to thrive at GHS having been given plenty of pastoral support to bridge the transition from California. It's a nurturing school although not in the traditional sense. Perhaps it is better to describe it as having plenty of available support if you are confident to seek it out.

The area is full of wonderful schools and I can't recommend it enough to anyone contemplating a move here. Good luck with school searches for anyone going through the same decisions as us! Mumsnet is a great resource Smile

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funnyvalentine236 · 20/06/2014 18:32

Don't send any of your children to Cranleigh Prep unless you are absolutely sure they will go on to the senior school. The prep is hugely discriminatory against those children not going onto Cranleigh. And yes, this is sour grapes.
GHS is fabulous and hope they will be very happy there.

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PrettyBelle · 03/05/2014 18:05

I have a son at Cranmore who has been most happy with the school. The academic standards are very high, there are loads - and I mean LOADS - of sports, participation in all kinds of competitions all the time. DS is not much into music so cannot comment on that aspect but the school's Christmas Carol service was outstanding in every respect. I would highly recommend it.

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Tanith · 29/04/2014 18:59

I've done some checking and I'm wondering if sixlive may have it the wrong way round. About 2 years ago, several boys were removed from Cranmore by their parents and some were sent to Aldro - I understand they had failed Y6 entrance exams and there was some considerable upset over it.
I don't know if this has happened since, but the parent I spoke to said, emphatically, that there are no problems with academic standards at Aldro: her son is in Y8 this year.

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Tanith · 29/04/2014 12:42

Really, sixlive? Hmm

So the 12 scholarships for last year's Aldro boys, including academic scholarships to Charterhouse and Winchester, were just a figment of imagination, were they?

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BlueStringPudding · 29/04/2014 10:59

I know a few parents at Aldro, but haven't heard of any concerns regarding standards there, so curious about what you've heard? Some boys are going onto RGS, both at 11+ and 13+. Also Winchester is listed on their scholarships' page for 2013..

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schmee · 28/04/2014 18:50

I've just scanned the thread, but have you ruled out Lanesborough for your DS? They prepare for public schools at 13 plus as well as preparing for RGS.

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mummytime · 28/04/2014 14:47

If you are going for Winchester, you might want to ask their advice.
The only boy I know there came a very different route, so I can't give much advice. And the advice here is conflicting (and I know Cranmore isn't the hot house it once was and most parents locally aren't aiming at boarding schools).

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sixlive · 28/04/2014 14:37

Good choice by your son. Parents are pulling out boys from Aldro due to concerns about academic standards.

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summerends · 28/04/2014 00:25

Moshi, make your life easier for the future if you are wavering between the two, choose the one ie Aldro that has a track record of preparing for Winchester entrance and whatever other senior schools you are considering.

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MoshiMoshi · 27/04/2014 14:57

Sigh. Today he has decided he likes Cranmore more...

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MoshiMoshi · 27/04/2014 00:49

Thanks for the PMs and replies on here. DS really enjoyed his day at Aldro and, although he is wavering on the boarding aspect, he is saying that is his preference. We are indifferent between the two which both impressed us so his decision will probably be the deciding factor. The flexi-boarding will be a useful aspect of it should we go down the boarding route. This week will be final decision time and panic buying of school kit and mass name tape sewing, followed by an interview and assessment at Winchester. Here we go... Grin

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JammieMummy · 26/04/2014 23:13

Hello MoshiMoshi,

We exchanged some private messages about schools a few months ago, I am so pleased to hear that your DDs got into GHSyou must be so pleased (and very proud!) I hopeyou are settling into Guildford and the weather isn't too shocking for you.

I have to say I would definitely pick Aldro over Cranmore especially considering the public schools you want your DS to move on too. My knowledge of Cranmore is that they don't send many if any to those type of schools and in my opinion the way they teach Latin (just as an example) is woefully short of what is required for CE. Aldro on the other hand has a very strong reputation both for prepping for CE (a large number of boys leave Cranmore at 11 so they don't have to prep them for it) and Aldro have good links with the secondary schools so. Their headmasters recommendation will have more force behind it. Also they have flexi boarding (a friend of mines son is currently taking full advantage of this opportunity and LOVES it).

I hope I am not too late with my response and good luck with the decision. Feel free to PM if you would like to chat further or just chat to another local!

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MoshiMoshi · 23/04/2014 17:57

The day at Cranmore went well today and DS would do well there I think but now Aldro have called to say they can take him straight away too. I gather Aldro prepares well for a boarding school environment and has a six day week but would it offer anything Cranmore doesn't? He would have to do a day's assessment at Aldro on Friday before we choose which school he attends on Monday. I would welcome any thoughts on what the choices offer. Thanks in advance.

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sixlive · 16/04/2014 20:16

For boys lanesborough, Cranmore, hoe bridge, Longacre, ripley court, aldro, more of a hike felt fleet, millbourne lodge, downsend. Gd luck.

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Xpatmama88 · 16/04/2014 18:32

Well done to all your DDs, it's a great school, they will all do well. And good luck and hope you settle in soon. You can all relax at Easter, great thing is one stop shopping for uniform!

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NCISaddict · 16/04/2014 17:34

DS went to Ripley Court and then onto RGS and was very happy at both.

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MoshiMoshi · 16/04/2014 17:26

my girls!

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MoshiMoshi · 16/04/2014 17:26

Hmm looks like I was impressed by my girl but I meant the school. I am of course very proud of my DDs but there is no doubt GHS is a fantastic place where my DDs will thrive. I am so excited about getting them started there!

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MoshiMoshi · 16/04/2014 17:24

Grrrr why does Apple insist on making "were" into "we're"?

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MoshiMoshi · 16/04/2014 17:24

We arrived in the UK on Sunday and the DDs we're assessed at GHS this morning after dragging them out of their jet lag ridden slumber. We were so impressed with the way they treated the whole experience and were delighted for all three girls to be offered a place starting next week. Thank you all so much for your helpful replies. We won't bother looking at St Hilary's and will let Surrey CC know the DDs won't need a school allocation after all.

Just one DS to sort out now...

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sedster · 02/03/2014 17:39

My DS is year 6 at Cranmore. We are not RC either and it does wear its RC very lightly so don't let that put you off. DS has been very happy there - he is not a tough hardy boy but has a lovely group of friends very like him, has done very well academically and is also sporty. He received offers from all of the senior schools he recently sat pre-tests for - two of which are highly academic and difficult to get into. In DS's year you'll find all sorts of boys - I've certainly never found that there is a Cranmore 'type'. I also haven't found it to be at all pushy - preparation for the pre-tests this January was nowhere near as pushy as at my DD's school. I felt the school handled them very well. If you want any further info, please feel free to PM me.

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MoshiMoshi · 02/03/2014 02:12

Thank you all and I hope I haven't opened up a can of worms. I'm very grateful for your thoughts and also I forgot to say thank you for the comment about George Abbot. So much to digest!

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mummytime · 01/03/2014 18:32

There is no such thing as a perfect school!
I have heard horror stories about Tormead too. I know happy well balanced girls at most local schools, sorry OP I actually don't know anyone at or has been to St Hilary's, so I can't comment really.

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