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If the school class/year group has to self isolate, do the kids drip back in following Negative test or have to sit out the whole fortnight

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 14/09/2020 13:04

Just hypothetical here.

A boy in Dds class did not attend Friday as someone in his household has symptoms. I've no idea whether it's him or someone else.

If it is him and he is positive school will send the whole class home to self isolate for 14 days.

As it has been 5 days since he saw my child, and probably most if not all of the kids in the class, can the students return before the 14 days, pending a negative test?

Also, is it 14 days from his last day at school or 14 days from the results coming back?

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justanotherneighinparadise · 14/09/2020 14:43

By home schooling I was assuming the children would be set work or at least know what their classmates were doing so we could try and replicate it at home. My child’s school has done the absolute minimum during this pandemic and once again theyve made it clear they are not prepared to do anything other than that going forwards.

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JacobReesMogadishu · 14/09/2020 14:52

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

Ah ok that makes sense
So no need to test classmates unless symptomatic. Everyone I c teacher off for 14 days.

Mad to think that on day 11-14 another classmate could test positive from the initial perspn but would then the class be allowed back as they won't have mixed with child2?

Yes, this is what's happened at the local primary. A whole class is off for 14 days, they don't get tests unless they develop symptoms.
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KilljoysDutch · 14/09/2020 15:00

If you're in Nottingham then it was possibly my Son causing the panic Grin DD had a UTI but it came with a fever and breathlessness so she had to be tested. He's back in school today after she got her results but I don't know if anyone else was informed why he was off, certainly the rest of the class have attended as normal.

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 14/09/2020 15:06

It would be handy if schools could say just 3 things the kids can work on over the 14 days.

E.g. "please use the time to focus on times tables, read about the titanic, and have a go at melting/freezing stuff"

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justanotherneighinparadise · 14/09/2020 15:16

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

It would be handy if schools could say just 3 things the kids can work on over the 14 days.

E.g. "please use the time to focus on times tables, read about the titanic, and have a go at melting/freezing stuff"

Oh wouldn’t that be helpful?!! But this crisis has taught me that the only people that care about our children are their families.
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AlwaysInAQ · 14/09/2020 15:40

I have had an email today from DD's school to say someone has Covid and the "small number of pupils that have been in contact have been told to SI"

She does not know who the pupil is but one of her friends has been sent home as she thinks the rest of her form has as well. But they are in year bubbles and are only in form a short amount of time then are mixed. DD sits next to one of the children sent home and was with her yesterday playing sport so surely she and all her group should be isolating?

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TheOrigBrave · 14/09/2020 15:43

and was with her yesterday playing sport

Organised sports should be doing track and trace; I have had to do this for my son since football training resumed.
If someone in his team tests positive then they will all have to SI. They don't have to SI if someone else is SI due to being in close contact with someone else. Where would you draw the line?

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starfish4 · 14/09/2020 15:44

You have to assume teacher is also isolating, so it'd all depend on finding a teacher (we're not using supply at the moment, so reliant on our PE teacher being free or Head/Deputy Head).

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Rhayader · 14/09/2020 15:44

It’s 14 days because the test would show as negative if it was done too early.

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Kaktus · 14/09/2020 15:46

@AlwaysInAQ

I have had an email today from DD's school to say someone has Covid and the "small number of pupils that have been in contact have been told to SI"

She does not know who the pupil is but one of her friends has been sent home as she thinks the rest of her form has as well. But they are in year bubbles and are only in form a short amount of time then are mixed. DD sits next to one of the children sent home and was with her yesterday playing sport so surely she and all her group should be isolating?

Your daughter should be SI if she’s been in contact with the positive case, not if she’s been in contact with someone else who has been in contact with the positive case.
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Frazzled2207 · 14/09/2020 15:46

@TheOrigBrave
I run an organised activity albeit not sport. It is now mandatory to hold all participants details for this very reason.

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StealthPolarBear · 14/09/2020 15:47

If close contacts are being contacted and only they are told to isolate what is a bubble?
I'm sure when they were brought in the idea was that all isolated or not, together.

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Teacher12345 · 14/09/2020 15:51

We have had a positive test of a sibling of a child in DS class. if the child in DS now tests positive, the whole class isolates.
What I want to know is, does the family have to isolate too or just DS? Seems odd if DD can still go to school but I think the rules are thats she can?

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DateLoaf · 14/09/2020 15:54

Good question OP and also how does this all work when you can’t seem to get tests at the moment?

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TheOrigBrave · 14/09/2020 15:55

What I want to know is, does the family have to isolate too or just DS? Seems odd if DD can still go to school but I think the rules are thats she can?

Just the DS, unless you have symptoms obv.
I was/am dreading DS2 having to SI following school outbreak as it's just me and him at home and I'd feel pretty rotten leaving him at home while I went out for a run or swim or something.

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Aragog · 14/09/2020 15:56

It would be handy if schools could say just 3 things the kids can work on over the 14 days.

Lots of schools do this and more. Some did similar - a weekly overview - way before Covid was even on the scene.

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StealthPolarBear · 14/09/2020 15:57

Presumably if a child is isolating at home and the family aren't then they are staying distant from family members? I can't see how that's going t work in a lot of cases.

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TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 14/09/2020 16:00

A bubble in my dd’s school has just closed for 14 days as a student has tested positive.

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AlwaysInAQ · 14/09/2020 16:00

Neither me nor my DD know who the positive case is though @Kaktus
So I'm guessing school make the decision on whether close contact has happened?
I do agree with poster who says where do you draw the line. I'm not saying I want my DD to isolate just so unsure of the rules. I've sprayed her with Dettol spray when she got home Grin

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TheOrigBrave · 14/09/2020 16:13

Neither me nor my DD know who the positive case is though. So I'm guessing school make the decision on whether close contact has happened?

Yes, exactly that. The school will inform you if your DD needs to SI.

Presumably if a child is isolating at home and the family aren't then they are staying distant from family members? I can't see how that's going t work in a lot of cases.

In my village I know of an 11yo who is being kept in her room (as indeed the SI guidelines state). I also know of another who has done the school run with his Mum.
If my son has to SI there is no way I will keep him in his room - that would be so damaging to his emotional wellbeing. We will lockdown together as much as possible.

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badlydrawnbear · 14/09/2020 16:33

@Teacher12345

We have had a positive test of a sibling of a child in DS class. if the child in DS now tests positive, the whole class isolates.
What I want to know is, does the family have to isolate too or just DS? Seems odd if DD can still go to school but I think the rules are thats she can?

Just DS. We are living this at the moment.
DC1 can't leave the house, but DC2 should still be going to school and I still have to go to work to interact with large numbers of vulnerable people. We are required to keep DC1 at home for 14 days from last contact with the positive case, which the school says is the last day DC1 was at school, we are not sure about that as surely the positive case should have been off school unwell on the day their result came back. We don't get DC tested unless she becomes symptomatic herself (if it is even possible to get a test). It is shit, harder than the original lockdown school closure as she can't even go for a walk. Our school is setting work daily and the headteacher insisted that it must be completed on the day it is set, which is a problem as I don't see my DC on days that I am at work doing 13hr shifts and DH cannot supervise any work while WFH, but I emailed the class teacher and she was fine with us just catching up where we can. DC2 can't go to school on days that I am at work, as DH can't leave DC1 in the house on her own twice a day to take and collect her, and her teacher has emailed me suggestions of things to do with her based on what they are doing in class (she miss about 5 days across the 14 day period).
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TheOrigBrave · 14/09/2020 16:46

Our school is setting work daily and the headteacher insisted that it must be completed on the day it is set

And the consequences if it's not?
What about children with no access to a computer, either because there isn't one at home or because parents are WFH?
What about children who don't have any supervision or just someone to ask, or that the person at home doesn't speak enough English or isn't well educated?

While my son has been home I have supervised where I can (he has just started secondary school), but I have my own job to do.

Does this HT have children at home who have also been given the same expectations?

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cptartapp · 14/09/2020 16:55

A boy in DS1 class at college tested positive. DS sits next to him, they're good friends, were at a hot tub party around the same time!
DS began his 14 day self isolation straight away (from his last contact with him) if his own accord, the college acted promptly, but it was 5 days before track and trace caught up with us.
If DS has no symptoms he can go back after 14 days. All other students sitting in a 2 metre radius from affected lad also told to self isolate. If they have no symptoms they don't need to test. I don't need to self isolate unless DS does show symptoms.

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H1978 · 14/09/2020 17:26

I think, as a precaution, even if the contact with the person testing positive is minimal, it’s better that the whole bubble isolate for 14 days. Dd3 is currently self isolating as someone in their class bubble tested positive but the rest of us are allowed to carry on as normal unless she starts displaying symptoms, in which case she would need to be tested and we would all need to self isolate until the results come through. I also got a call from the school today to let them know if she has any symptoms.

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LoungeLizardLhama · 14/09/2020 20:26

I’ve had an email from DDs school this morning to say that a child or staff member is self isolating due to developing Covid symptoms but they’re saying that nobody else needs to isolate unless the test comes back positive. It seems like there’s loads of conflicting advice/opinion but I have to say, I’m happy with the way our school are handling it meaning the whole bubble don’t have to miss out on school ‘just in case’.

Until we know the result of the test, there is no need for your child to isolate and they can attend school as normal.
If the individual who is experiencing symptoms tests positive, we will contact you immediately and your child will need to isolate for 14 days from the date they were last in contact with them. Other household members will not need to isolate.
If the test result is negative, the individual can return to school immediately (as long as they have not had a temperature, vomiting or diarrhea for 48 hours). There will be no further action for close contacts.
If a test result in inconclusive, or a test cannot be carried out, the individual will continue to isolate for the 10 day period (other household members for 14 days). There will be no further action for close contacts.

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