Have there been any cases in schools since reopening?

[Adirondack]

Does anyone know of any cases in schools (primary) since reopening to yrs R, 1 and 6? I’ve been keeping close eye on case nos locally but haven’t seen anything.

[AlecTrevelyan006]

For context

There are currently 32,770 schools in the UK. Of these, 3,714 are nurseries or early-learning centres, 20,832 are primary schools, 19 are middle schools and 4,188 are secondary schools. There are 2,408 independent schools, 1,257 special schools and 352 pupil referral units (PRUs).

[MRex]

As for a parent sending in a child while awaiting a test result, that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet. Surely there will have to be fines to try to drive out such idiocy.

[MRex]

I think there's every reason to be cautious in considering the reasons for these outbreaks. I read about the Derby one, the school opened on Monday and closed on Tuesday because 7 staff were infected. They hadn't been open before and no children were infected nor parents. That means it was the teachers mixing with each other and not following safe distancing practices while they set up the school that spread it, OR they all caught it because of some other big outbreak in Derby (unlikely as the cases there don't seem big enough). Despite this, I've read multiple social media posts that this shows there is a danger to teachers in opening schools. For this particular example that's only true if teachers are to have no accountability for their own safety unlike every other adult in the country.

[BornOnThe4thJuly]

@Adirondack

Our school won’t send anyone home until a child has had the positive test result. So kids have been tested but the school and their bubble have carried on until the result is known. (Child who is being tested obviously stays at home)

My DC school did say that they didn’t have to close the bubble to wait for results, but wanted to be cautious, which I thought was sensible. There is a GP and A&E nurse with children in the same bubble and at least 1 carer, so high risk occupations.

[ohthegoats]

It feels quite a responsibility to be sensible.

That's how I feel about it. Also, I feel the need to protect the adults' health. Mine is playing with her bubble mates on the way home from school (we walk through the park), but the kids are easily keeping away from each other - they run around, play football, climb trees - it's more apart than what is going on in school judging by photos they've sent home.

It's only for 4 more weeks, then it's a case of 'using your instinct' isn't it.

[EvilPea]

I am so worried something we do will pop the bubble my eldest is in. The kids are really enjoying being back, really happy together and learning loads. I would so hate to be the one to end up breaking it.
It feels quite a responsibility to be sensible.

[Adirondack]

Our school won’t send anyone home until a child has had the positive test result. So kids have been tested but the school and their bubble have carried on until the result is known. (Child who is being tested obviously stays at home)

[Keepdistance]

Just such a pity tests are 25% false negative so 1/4 cases of kids going back in after a negative would be carrying on with it actually being positive. Although it sounds like the testing is done earlly and maybe more incorrect results when done later.

[BornOnThe4thJuly]

My DC’s school sent a text yesterday lunchtime to say a child in his class had been sent home with symptoms, so we had to collect him ASAP. They said the whole family would be tested and results expected in 48hrs, class to stay at home until then. We then got a text this afternoon to say results back already and negative, so they’re back tomorrow. I was very impressed at the speed of the testing. DC was very upset though and kept saying this morning, it’s a school day today, I should be at school right now.

[Chaotic45]

@GlomOfNit how frustrating all round. Also, closing for a week for cleaning seems excessive. We need to get better at deep cleaning as it doesn't take so long to deal with these inevitable situations.

[Kitcat122]

I work in one bubble and I have 4 children in other bubbles so we are a 5 bubble family plus my husband works abroad so if one of us tested positive we would impact many people.

[GlomOfNit]

DS2 is 9 and was invited back to his special school (all children have EHCPs there obviously) the first day schools reopened in England. He was due back in the following thurs and fri but we were rung by school a day later and told a child in his classroom (classes are so small, one classroom is an entire bubble) had been at a 'family gathering' that weekend (eg day before he attended school) with a family member who had since tested positive. Since, at that time, swab tests were taking several days to process, I'm assuming this family member had already taken the swab test and was waiting for results when s/he decided to attend a 'family gathering' with people s/he didn't live with.

The whole classroom was closed down for a week for cleaning and staff were tested. I was furious at this one person's utter stupidity and thoughtlessness. I'm bracing myself for this to happen at intervals until the summer holidays.

[TheOrigBrave]

I think it would have been better to just keep schools shut longer and re open other things first rather than mess about with children on this way it must be so disruptive

I've not heard of any bubbles popping around me (live in a village, near to a town). My yr6 son has been back since 1st June and it has done him (and me) so much good. He has his routine, his friends and more formal education. We have a break from each other. I can work.
Even if the bubble pops or the school closes for yr6 in order to allow children from other yrs to go back for a few days, he will have benefitted hugely from these nearly 3 weeks.

[augustyellow]

Hearing of bubbles bursting when these children are probably in for limited hours / days only after such a long time off is really sad . All that anticipation to go back only to then be off again I think it would have been better to just keep schools shut longer and re open other things first rather than mess about with children on this way it must be so disruptive

[SpottyBrolly]

Nisha =nursery

[SpottyBrolly]

No, cases here either in schools or Nisha but not really surprising as I'm in the South west and community transition rates are in the floor. As a side note no outbreaks among staff in supermarkets who by and large very much don't socially distance.

[Bridecilla]

Bubbles are popping outside of school too though as parents are letting kids play together

[PaulAnkaDog]

Right, so one potential case in one class can then potentially cause a case in another class if siblings. The whole thing falls down, Or the bubble is popped.

[Bridecilla]

Yes. School near us in Sunderland sent an urgent text for parents to pic their kids up as a staff member had tested positive. Re-opened a couple of days later after a deep clean but don't know how many sent kids back

[Keepdistance]

The bubble is up to 15 kids in a class. But they obviously have siblings in other classes

[PaulAnkaDog]

[quote TorysSuckRevokeArticle50]@PaulAnkaDog

The kids are in school bubbles

• groups of no more than 15
• assigned a teacher/Ta who only works with that group
• no mixing of groups within the school

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Right! I get it! Sorry I’m Scotland and not reopened as of yet.

[TorysSuckRevokeArticle50]

@PaulAnkaDog

The kids are in school bubbles

• groups of no more than 15
• assigned a teacher/Ta who only works with that group
• no mixing of groups within the school

[PaulAnkaDog]

Sorry but pp keep referencing ‘the bubble’. Forgive me for being a bit daft but are you referring to the social bubble concept introduced in England? If so, why do you think that’ll stop infection rates in schools? Bubble houses meet, one has been in contact in a shop say with someone with corona, it gets passed onto the next household? Or am I being completely daft?

I feel like some people are thinking the relaxation on lockdown makes communities infallible to infection.

[Beautifulsunsets]

Vulnerable children and staff? Problems social distancing? Deep cleaning?