Do we know yet why 70% of corona virus deaths are men?

[NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1]

Does anyone know the reason for this? I can't remember whether it was 70% of victims or 70% of deaths .

[Alex50]

Another article re men dying:

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/coronavirus-uk-over-70-of-critical-care-patients-are-men

[fuckinghellthisshit]

Having 2 X chromosomes massively improves your immune system. Women outlive men on most diseases.
When I say women, I mean biological xx chromosome holders.

[RingtheBells]

I think I am the man hater

[Mummyoflittledragon]

Letsdrinkgin
Eh? This thread started a month ago. I can’t see any men haters.

Thanks for all the info upthread. Interesting.

[bengalcat]

Genetics - biologically at all ages women have higher survival rates . That’s simplified it to a nutshell .

[Letsdrinkgin]

I see the man haters are out in force on this thread. Lovely.

[Pixxie7]

Sorry sites

[RingtheBells]

DH is definitely more lapse than me with stuff like hand washing, I have to keep reminding him, also my hand gel is always in my bag and part of my bag check routine when I go out and he leaves his on the side like his loose change and forgets to take it out. If I didn't wipe the door handles, they wouldn't get done, the list goes on. Not saying all men are the same but I bet a lot are so probably more likely to catch it in the first place

[Pixxie7]

It’s thought to be down to certain receptor sights in the lungs, which men have more than women and children have very few. Hence children are less likely to get it.

[walksen]

Seems likely to be predominantly genetic factors to do with chromosomes.

It is of course well known that men suffer more with respiratory illness. Mers sars and the ubiquitous man flu.

[Galwaygirl]

Documentary on netflix on coronavirus said men were more likely to suffer with heart disease, diabetes gets and hand hygiene was poor compared to women

[LWJ70]

ACE2 receptor is on the X chromosome

Men have XY chromosomes.
Women have XX.

Women therefore have a backup ACE2 receptor.

ACE2 enzyme is responsible for reducing cytokine storms in acute respiratory distress syndrome.

Also men are generally crap at looking after their health and vitamin D3 levels.

[SallyWD]

I saw a programme on TV looking at the science of Covid. They thought it was something to do with a substance (a protein maybe) that men have more of in their lungs

[LWJ70]

The second vitamin D3 blood serum study in the world has been published yesterday.
It was a study of 780 Indonesian covid patients.

These are the conclusions of the study:
• Majority of the COVID-19 cases with insufficient and deficient Vitamin D status died.
• The odds of death was higher in older and male cases with pre-existing condition and below normal Vitamin D levels.
• When controlling for age, sex, and comorbidity, Vitamin D status is strongly associated with COVID-19 mortality.

When compared to cases with normal Vitamin D status, death was approximately 10.12 times more likely for Vitamin D deficient cases (OR=10.12; p

[Emeeno1]

There is some interesting research in to this in relation to SARS.

www.jimmunol.org/content/198/10/4046.long

'these data suggest that sex differences in susceptibility to SARS-CoV in mice parallel those observed in patients and also identify estrogen receptor signaling as critical for protection in females.'

[PertEllaTitsahoy]

Men are more likely to be ill enough to be admitted to hospital and die, but women will account for a large proportion of non-hospital deaths.

It is to do with our immune systems being stronger, I think it's because we have 2 X chromosomes. As women live longer than men, most of the elderly people dying outside of hospital will be women

[MrsTerryPratchett]

My evolution professor used to describe Y chromosomes as sad, small, deformed X chromosomes. And there's some truth to that. Have a look at a picture of them together. Bless.

[Branster]

Women were found to have more resistance to infections and illnesses in general. They are more resistant. Men also burn quicker, in the sense that the use up energy fast and in excess so there is a higher strain on their body including the immune system. There was a very, very good article in the Magazine section of the Sunday Times where a (male) doctor or scientist, American I think, was on a path of proving that women are the stronger sex in terms of longevity and illnesses. He wrote or was writing a book about it. I wish I kept as it was a very good read. Sometime end Feb- beginning of March. Does anyone know how we could find it online, I can’t see a way through the Times website. Maybe someone with a subscription would be kind to search and let us know it’s there and the title as there might be a free synopsis available elsewhere online. I’m pretty sure in the same article, He also touched on medicines not being as effective for women as they were mostly created for the male metabolism and indicated that this might be a reason for women having more side effects from medication. It starts with animal testing and research where male mice are better candidates.

[BeetrootRocks]

Maybe we have stronger immune systems to protect because of childbirth, which often involves open wounds and infection kills. And children without a mother back through human evolution would have been less likely to survive, no milk to feed etc.

I don't know if it's karma as women's job has always been to quietly and smilingly clean up any messes. So during and in the aftermath of this, I suspect a lot of the work and also the sacrifice will fall to women.

[rhowton]

Because woman have been truly fucked throughout history so karma??

[Delatron]

It has to be biological though if it holds true across all countries and societies.

I did read it was to do with women having stronger immune systems.

[Wingedharpy]

Many men don't wash their hands enough......and most of them can't wipe their feet for love nor money.

Not that feet wiping is an issue in this case.

[bengalcat]

Our immune systems are more robust . Biologically females are the stronger sex .

[2020newme]

Interesting question.

Its odd when you consider that around 80% of carers and health staff are women, and that's not just in Europe. Those women should be more likely to contract the virus.

From my own observations and conversations, so not remotely scientific, men are far more likely to be dismissive about COVID -19 and far less likely to apply social distancing. I wonder if women are brought up to "obey the rules?" and in this case it is actually protecting them?

[Hearhoovesthinkzebras]

My hospital consultant told me that "this virus likes high blood pressure". If that's true, it might well be that men suffer hypertension more than women.