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I think we all need to get a grip.

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Bulb1976 · 20/03/2020 08:30

I know Coronavirus is scary, the constant media scaremongering hasn’t helped either. But let’s get this into perspective, the majority of us will be fine and whilst those of us who fall into the at risk category are anxious it’s still important to realise that there is still a good chance we can recover from this.
But the food stockpiling, sending your kids to school when you know you shouldn’t (yes I know people have financial obligations but if you are really worried about Coronavirus then surely the health of your kids comes first). The threads on MN are sounding pretty hysterical and we aren’t helping each other instead we are creating group hysteria.

Step away from the phone and just calm down and get some perspective. We can’t control this, just have to keep going.

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BlackWhitePurple · 20/03/2020 09:57

Some very promising treatments have been found. Some are existing drugs, used for other illnesses (one is used against Malaria), and have been well-tested for many years. They need to do some more testing before approving them for use against CV, but that won't take as long as developing entirely new drugs.

There will soon be a test which allows people to find out whether they've had CV and are immune. This will be a game changer as, for instance, those nurses and doctors who find they have immunity will be able to go back to work on the front line.

A vaccine is still some way off, but may well be available in 18 months or so.

In the meantime, we need to take sensible measures to slow this thing down, reduce pressure on the NHS and keep ourselves safe and well.

In previous pandemics there wasn't the same hope of cures or treatments or vaccines, so of course people accepted that they might die and just carried on. We no longer have to behave like that.

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BonnesVacances · 20/03/2020 09:57

Eh?

FFS! Getting sick of people who think they know better than the medics who are telling us this is very very serious and we all need to do our bit in containing and delaying it.

Also getting very sick of people who think it's ok to focus on the majority and dismiss the minority as though they don't matter or matter less.

And finally, most depressingly, I'm utterly sick to my back teeth of the people who are so inherently selfish and self-centred that they can't see beyond their own sad little lives and how this affects everyone.

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MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 09:56

If that drug rocks up in October... still have to deal with the peak now and not enough critical care.

There are two groups acting suboptimally - panickers and I’ll do what I want. It’s easy, just be calm and stay inside except for essential stuff.

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Dinosauratemydaffodils · 20/03/2020 09:56

If you go along with instruction you don’t have to be afraid and panic.

Being confined to my home is pretty much my worst nightmare due to previous experience. We're on day 8 of self isolation. I feel awful, my chest hurts whether or I cough or not. Dh is so short tempered because he's working from home and despite our house being big on paper, the kids want to be in the same room as him/want his attention so it's a nightmare trying to balance his work with them. I don't get any time to myself. I now have zero mental health imput (unstandable) but also can't access all the things I need to keep myself roughly sane.

My mum and inlaws are behaving like they are immortal with Fil going to the shops every day for his precious papers despite having a 3rd of his heart not working and having diabetes. In the past 2 years I've lost my dad and both my Grandmothers (one of whom we can't have a proper funeral for because she only died a few weeks ago). My cousin has just been tested having all the symptoms and feeling really ill. She's spent a load of time with my vulnerable mum who is currently 400 miles away.

Oh and I have zero faith in our Government to manage this situation.

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Handsnotwands · 20/03/2020 09:55

But it's not athat we're all wailing we're going to die and run out of bread.

The economic effects of this are going to be devastating, that's what scares me. Hundreds of thousands of people unable to work, businesses unable to continue, our independent shops all closed, probably for good in a great many cases . the entire tourism and hospitality industry decimated and all those employed by it, some of the last able to find alternative employment.

after a decade of austerity we are in no position to weather an economic shit storm. any of us

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Bluntness100 · 20/03/2020 09:55

Not really, they’ve discovered a combination of drugs in Japan that clears it up.

Yes, we started our first human trial yesterday on a patient, the USA have also started, as have many other countries, there is a hand ful of drugs that potentially clear it up with no adverse effects, and this is what they are trialling now. A vaccine will be slightly later, but drugs that treat it and cure it, would make this something very manageable and It really would be a game changer.

It’s all over the media, there is many scientific journals being published on it, I’ve no idea why some people don’t know about it, or for some reason think it’s just a vaccine we are waiting for. It’s not just a vaccine, it’s also a medicine that cures it. And they think that exists and is already licensed for use.

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Alsohuman · 20/03/2020 09:51

A cure? You're mad

Not really, they’ve discovered a combination of drugs in Japan that clears it up.

Instead of watching apocalyptic videos and winding themselves up, perhaps people should reflect on the mortality rates for people under 50 and get a bit of perspective.

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iamapixie · 20/03/2020 09:50

In a sense you are right. It is showing up a lot of the faultlines in our very divided society.
The panic buying is stupid and selfish, but what do we expect when we as a society are so selfish.
The hysteria on mumsnet is ridiculous, but what do we expect having seen the ridiculousness of Brexit, the rise of Trump, the awful way women are treated on social media etc etc...'discussions' are mostly at the 'I'm right and you're a pointless tosser' level, but simply writ large.
Many people are classed as vulnerable but what do we expect in such an unhealthy population and an ageing population where people consistently vote against tax rises? Perhaps the media should, next to the numbers of (premature) covid deaths, put the numbers of premature deaths linked to air pollution (millions worldwide but we all drive and fly), obesity (huge numbers yet we all support big business which provides so many of the causes of obesity). We need to all take a really long hard look at the way we all live our lives rather than hand wringing. And just because some people aren't hysterical does not mean that they are ignoring guidance or minimising the feelings or health of others.

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TheCanterburyWhales · 20/03/2020 09:48

The article says the drug being trialled shortens the time people moderately affected are unwell.
Which is great, but it also says it has little or no effect on more seriously compromised patients, and of course is only a symptom treatment not a prevention.
In Italy they are also waiting to begin trials on another drug usually used for arthritis.

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Bakedbrie · 20/03/2020 09:46

I’m taking life a day at a time and absolutely no more than a week at a time. We can only as individuals try to obey the scientific advice to the best of our personal abilities. Others may not...well I can to control that. I can only control my own behaviour at this high stress time.
Wringing my hands about the future will change nothing. We can only as people influence the here and now. I have faith in our leaders ....I have more faith in them than I do in myself and I am heartened at Boris’s faith in people - even though we do see countless examples of stupid behaviour each day. I think we will get through this, and faith, being an obedient person and a caring person will speed the end of the nightmare.
As a mum, holding my faith for the mental support of all my family, young and old is very important - so that’s what I’m doing.

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BarleylemonPenguin · 20/03/2020 09:44

I would like to add that while I understand the fear and anxiety, it’s perhaps worth considering the total annual number of deaths per year and the fact that a high proportion of these deaths are from respiratory causes (the other big category of cause after that is cardiovascular). This pattern occurs annually. The media is not really issuing warnings (that is the govt.’s job) but is instead overwhelming us with distressing images and words. That is very irresponsible of them. At the very least, they should change their reporting style.

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MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 09:44

If you go along with instruction you don’t have to be afraid and panic.

I’m not sure people can manage it though so go to further measures, fine by me.

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daisypond · 20/03/2020 09:43

Yesterday a rumour was doing the rounds that next year we will have Covid 20 which will be even worse.
Well, yes, it is very possible.

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SunshineCake · 20/03/2020 09:43

I think it isn't that we need to get a grip but you need to get some empathy, OP.

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wecandothispeeps · 20/03/2020 09:42

We haven't even started proper isolation, I am one week into it, and I would say we need to stay very very calm.

Some people will have to deal with some very serious mental health issues which will be made much worse by this situation, others will have a lack of space and feel very hemmed in.

It is very important to keep a check on your own panic levels. At this moment most of us are well, we are posting, we are connecting.

This crisis is not only going to test us physically, but we are going to have to prepare for the mental health hit that comes with being isolated for long stretches. Find ways to soothe yourself, and others, acknowledge this is bloody scary and horrible, and then envisage telling the story to others in five years time. It will pass. It will, so lets hold on to that.

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 20/03/2020 09:42

Don’t panic, use your common sense.

But still be afraid.

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Bluntness100 · 20/03/2020 09:41

you need to understand this better. A cure? You're mad

It’s clearly not me that doesn’t under stand it, and yes they think they have drugs that can treat it, and effectively cure it, hence why they have moved into human trial on them.

How can you not know this?

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daisypond · 20/03/2020 09:41

Bluntness
There will no no vaccine for months. Covid19 is similar to SARS and no vaccine was found for that.

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MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 09:41

So don’t panic just do what government asks

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 20/03/2020 09:40

Panic won’t lead to reasonable decisions either.

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Justcallmebebes · 20/03/2020 09:39

I agree! Yesterday a rumour was doing the rounds that next year we will have Covid 20 which will be even worse. God forbid!

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MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 09:39

How what timescale? when would that be available here

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MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 09:37

Everyone thinking it’s not much to worry about will make decisions that have huge impact. So yes people need to know what’s coming if they don’t change their behaviour.

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Marieo · 20/03/2020 09:37

I don't think people should panic, but I think the most of us will be fine isn't helpful either. Lots of people aren't taking it seriously, and they will likely be okay, but will be contributing to the spread, and ultimately deaths.

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HowIrresponsible · 20/03/2020 09:36

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china

See look.

Everyone would rather invite the apocalypse than stay calm and trust treatments can be found.

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