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Children's health

Any doctors around? I'm worried my 4 year old may have diabetes.

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lisalisa · 19/08/2008 19:49

I have noticed for some time - at least 4 weeks that my 4 yr old is ecessively thirsty. By excessively I mean that for brfeakfast =she will gulp down 2 cups of water, by mid morning ish another 2, lunchtime another 2 etc. In betgween she always accepts if offere4d a drink and by the time she asks ( if not offered in between the breakfast and mid monring say) she actually cries for a drink on first asking - for e.g. she'll suddeenly cry/comp=lain "mummy i'm so thirsty i need a drink now" - and so she does as she'll drink it all. Surely this can't be normal?

I gazve her hot sweet herbal tea just now for the first time before bed as she wanted somthing hot and to my surpirse she drained the cup drinking it in big gulps after sayhing she was v tghirsty.

No other signs of anything at all being wrong although today she vomited and has a slight temperature. I thnk this is totally unrelated however as the excessive thirst started 4 weeks ago.

Does anyone have any ideas as tgo what it may be ? Diabetes?

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lulurose · 20/08/2008 19:16

Phew! I've been wondering how it went. I'm so glad its just an infection...I hope she feels better soon.

hoxtonchick · 20/08/2008 17:08

great .

CantSleepWontSleep · 20/08/2008 16:58

Oh wonderful news lisa .

BigMaz · 20/08/2008 16:27

Great news (relative). She'll be fine once the antibiotics kick in.

How were the hols?

bramblebooks · 20/08/2008 15:37

What a relief!! I've been wondering how you were getting on. I'd hoped that ds's was a urine infection - glad that you've had a happier outcome than us.

bundle · 20/08/2008 15:18

phew that's a relief!

lisalisa · 20/08/2008 15:18

Thansk so much for all your good wishes.

Dd has a urine infection! Of all things! It just shows how weirdly some things can present in childrne as I am a veteran of urine infections having suffered them for 11 years myself beofre an op corrected them at age 11 and also having dealt with them before in other childrne of mine. never before however have I seen excesive thirst or loss of appetite or vomiting or sotmach ache although i understand that all are perfectly standard markers of a urine infection.

We were discharged wiht antibiotics and a referral to a urologist - quite why we need that i don't know as it is only a first occurance and I had thought that referrals took place after 2 or 3 urine infections. I don't mind dd having non invasive follow up tests but don't want her to undergo anythinig invasive or overly painful after just one infection.

Much releived and settle dthis afternoon now . She is sleeping - still drking and vomiting but more settled. thanks everyone

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bramblebooks · 20/08/2008 09:42

All the best lisa, let us know how you get on when you can. x

Mummyfor3 · 20/08/2008 09:21

Again, good luck from me for this morning.

hoxtonchick · 20/08/2008 09:08

please let us know how you get on today lisa .

CantSleepWontSleep · 20/08/2008 08:26

Just wishing you luck for this morning lisa.

bramblebooks · 19/08/2008 23:56

... my son had exactly the same symptoms as your daughter. Excessive thirst, lots of weeing, wet beds for the first time ever, stomach pains, weight loss, tiredness, crankiness, pear drops smell on his breath. As I said ^ I wish with hindsight that I'd taken him in sooner.

If it is diabetes then as soon as treatment starts you will start to get your little girl back. x

bramblebooks · 19/08/2008 23:51

Just reading back, if you're still up, give nhs direct a ring as vomiting & stomach ache can be a sign that things are progressing.

bramblebooks · 19/08/2008 23:49

I would like to echo what the others say - nhs direct tonight, definitely gp's first thing (I actually wish I'd gone to a&e as my gp couldn't fit me in until 4pm - either that or I should have pushed for an earlier appointment). Diabetes can present quickly, it is known as 'the shock diagnosis', I read somewhere.

My son has diabetes and has recently been given an insulin pump which has changed our lives.

All the best. Let us know how you get on, we'll keep our fingers crossed. x

lulurose · 19/08/2008 22:53

NHS Direct were who I called and they advised me to take my DD2 in. Sadly she was misdiagnosed by 2 GPs prior to this, neither of whom tested her blood or urine.

Sadly Type One is on the increase in young children.

DD2 is fine now by the way, she is doing brilliantly and has an insulin pump which has made control much easier.

Thinking of you both, fingers crossed everything will be ok.

drjoannac · 19/08/2008 22:43

I just wanted to add that phoning NHS direct or your out of hours GP service might be a good idea. They can ask you some questions and hopefully put your mind at rest at least for this evening - but if they feel your daughter needs to be seen tonight - they will tell you.
Is so hard when they are ill and you don't know why...hope all works out in the end.
xx

emma1977 · 19/08/2008 22:40

I would echo others and say GP tomorrow morning with a wee sample.

Diabetes can quite easily be ruled in or out with some simple tests.

Hope all goes well, and keep us updated.

lulurose · 19/08/2008 22:37

sorry, no idea what happened there

lulurose · 19/08/2008 22:35

Hi,

Please follow your instinct and take her in as soon as you are able.

A simple urine/finger prick blood test test will rule Type One Diabetes in or out.

My DD2 was diagnosed at 18 months old in A and E, she was in ketoacidosis with a BG of 40mmols (should be 4/5mmols. Again, excessive thirst, lethargy and weight loss were the main symptoms.

I really don't want to worry you unduly as it probably isn't. Take care, and please let us know how you get on.

LR x

lulurose · 19/08/2008 22:35

Hi,

Please follow your instinct and take her in as soon as you are able.

A simple urine/finger prick blood test test will rule Type One Diabetes in or out.

My DD2 was diagnosed at 18 months old in A and E, she was in ketoacidosis with a BG of 40mmols (should be 4/5mmols. Again, excessive thirst, lethargy and weight loss were the main symptoms.

I really don't want to worry you unduly as it probably isn't. Take care, and please let us know how you get on.

LR x

lulurose · 19/08/2008 22:35

Hi,

Please follow your instinct and take her in as soon as you are able.

A simple urine/finger prick blood test test will rule Type One Diabetes in or out.

My DD2 was diagnosed at 18 months old in A and E, she was in ketoacidosis with a BG of 40mmols (should be 4/5mmols. Again, excessive thirst, lethargy and weight loss were the main symptoms.

I really don't want to worry you unduly as it probably isn't. Take care, and please let us know how you get on.

LR x

lisalisa · 19/08/2008 22:28

Yes I will. I will gtake her tomorrow at 8.ooam as early as possible - she has been to the loo 4 times now since going to bed at 6.30pm so all is def not right. No pear drop breath though or more tummy aches or vomting though thanks goodness.

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giraffescantdancethetango · 19/08/2008 22:04

hope all goes well tomorrow.

Mummyfor3 · 19/08/2008 22:01

Lisa, different story to yours with DS: he had past history of urine infections, was ill with high fever and as usual I dip tested a urine sample to check for infection. Was all clear from that point of view but had sugar ++++ in it . I was v panicked (and all that abroad..) but it turns out that some children, particularly when they have some scarring on kidneys like he does will "leak" a bit of sugar in urine when unwell.
So, sorry, not relevant to your situation, but taught me quite a lot about sugar in urine/diabetes/or not.
Fingers crossed for you and DD.
Would you consider posting how it turned out? I will be thinking of you and DD tomorrow.

lilymolly · 19/08/2008 21:40

Agree dont rush to A and E
Does she have breath that smells of pear drops? this could also be a sign.
Take her to gps tomorrow and insist they dipstick her urine and send sample to hospital.
Dont panic!

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