Can anyone pin point when this trend for unique/made up names started?

[Bumperslucious]

And who started it? Were their weird names in the 20s? In the 50s?

Who is to blame?

Do you think that we will get to a point were the majority of people will prefer good ol' common garden names, or traditional family names?

[Hormonesnomore]

My dh had a boss called Bland.

'Ina' added to a father's name was quite common in Scotland for a first-born girl in the early part of the 20th century- eg Jamesina, Davidina, Thomasina (Ina for short ).

[shoshe]

We also had a Karen in 1740!

[shoshe]

1800's names from my family tree include

Titus (male)

Hay (Female)

Anlin (female)

Mercy (female)

Silas (male)

Rosebud (female)

Conscious (male)

Not made up but would think quite unusual in there time

[hazeyjane]

Wendy was from the name 'Fwendy'(ie 'friendy') that JM Barries daughter used to call her imaginary friend.

You only have to walk around a cemetry and look at old gravestones to see unusual names have been around for a long time.

I think it is interesting to have a mix of traditional and unusual names, with the occasional downright bizarre thrown in!

[GrendelsMum]

Really? What like? (Don't say Lettuce because the name's Lettice.)

[Metella]

The children's programme was "Horrible Histories" and apparently Victorian children were called the most extraordinary things!

[LadyThompson]

Wendy was made up by JM Barrie, yes; Vanessa is also a made up name!

[GrendelsMum]

People in the C16 / C17 / C18 were actually (even if unconsciously) making a political point by calling their children 'common' names like 'Mary', 'Elizabeth', 'Jane', 'Ann', 'William', 'James', 'Charles' - it's a way of marking out very clearly your religious and political affiliations.

[nickelbabe]

mrsradders "in larkrise to candleford the main character was called Dorcas (i thought this very funny and obviosly made up) but actually means gazelle or doe in greek!!
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Dorcas is from the bible - it's the other name of Teresa.

prefer Dorcas myself....

[TheMysticMasseuse]

whenever we want to use an example of a wacky name dh and i always use StJohn which is classical, christian, and literary and yet still manages to sound utterly made up!

[elvislives]

Well I've noticed in my own family history research that after generations of children all called Peter George William John and Henry, Sarah Mary Ann Jane Elizabeth; around the late 1800s/ early 1900s suddenly different names were coming in. All the names in fact that are fashionable for babies now- Florence, Matilda, Flora, May plus boys names like Victor, Percy and Stanley.

But there have always been fashions in names. My mums friends (b 30s-40s) were all called Brenda, Barbara, Margaret, Betty, Valerie and Patricia. The girls I went to school with (b 60s) were called Tracy, Sharon, Karen, Julie, Kim, Claire and Alison. My DD1s friends (b 80s) were Kayleigh, Kirsty, Chloe, Jodie, Samantha, Hannah. DD2s friends (b 2007) are Lily, Molly, Tilly, Maia, Ellie, Emily.

You'd no more have found a Brenda at our school than a Karen at DD1s.

[GrendelsMum]

In the 17th century, Puritans had a tendency to call children things such as 'Endeavour' or 'Zeal for the Lord', or my personal favourite, 'More Fruit' (I want to call my next cat 'More Fruit').

People have certainly given children other people's surnames as first names from the 16th century on, particularly if that would impress a (comparatively) wealthy relative. The only one I can think of off-hand is the well-known poet 17th century Mildmay Fane, Earl of Westmorland, named Mildmay after his mother's maiden name.

[mrsradders]

all names had to start somewhere so i would think that all were made up and sounded odd at some point.

in larkrise to candleford the main character was called Dorcas (i thought this very funny and obviosly made up) but actually means gazelle or doe in greek!!

and Dido (the singer...heard her parents were hippies so again asumed made up) means bold and was the phoenician princess who founded carthage in roman mythology!!!

i think it is fun to play with names but i'm not that brave!!

[nomorecake]

made it popular

but im sure that names become used more widely when a someone becomes famous with that name.

[nomorecake]

i dont think they invented hayley...

[qumquat]

Names have to start somewhere. Shakespeare invented a load and eg. I think Hayley Mills' parents invented Hayley. think it only takes one person to invent a name and others to pick up on it and soon it doesn't sound made up at all. (or else no-one picks it up and it continues to sound wacky and then dies out). It's the same with names from different languages, French names like Claire and Sophie must have sounded completely off the wall at one point as well, but now they are considered 'classic'.

[BlueChampagne]

Shakespeare is credited with having made up Miranda. And he called his son Hamnett. You don't see that on MN lists very often. I reckon unusual names have always been about, but the media, including the internet, make it easier to share them.

On a similar line, many places are named after people, so why not reverse the trend?

My great great aunt was christened Jamesina. Everyone called her Hope...

[Scorpette]

Wendy was indeed made up by J M Barrie. My brother, who lives in Amsterdam, has several friends with made-up names (is/was quite common in The Netherlands, apparently). Most of them sound quite 'normal' (in Dutch) but the stand-out one is Rooelij (pron. Rrrrule-eye), which is a colloquial word from her parents' home town for 'yahoo/yippee'!

Yes, they were hippies.

[DiamondHead]

I think they're have always been unusual names - although I imagine they were less fashioable in the 40's and 50's, so perhaps we see them as a new things.

Really there aren't that many children with proper unusual names. That thread, recently with the most unusual name people had heard, there were quite a few that were fairly ordinary.

Do you actually know many children with made up names?

[lotspot]

I'm pretty certain Wendy was a name made up in Peter Pan - it wasn't a name before that - now you wouldn't think it to be made up and wacky so over time all these unusual names seem to become commonplace and everyone forgets they were once odd - which suggests it could have always been done!

[thumbwitch]

there was a children's tv programme on about this last week (not that I watch too much tv, oh no, not me, no sirree) - showing some genuine Victorian weird names - things like Happy, Sit, Silence.

It's probably always been around. Just the levels of weirdness change.

[Theteathings]

Love the gt granddad Christmas

There have always been unusual names but I think slebs have set the pace with 'creative' naming in the last 20 years and now we all like to do it too. Like ermm... Sir Bob and Paula Yates with trixie peaches etc and didn't David Bowie call his ds something very potty like Zowie? (and didn't he change it to something ordinary like Malcolm)

[edam]

yeah, s/he would be a lazy arse who never moved off the sofa

[Bumperslucious]

Interesting Mystic, I quite like the name Dynamo , sort of tempting fate though isn't it?