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First names that are traditionally surnames

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dina3 · 16/05/2022 11:25

Things like:

Mason
Tyler
Hunter
Harrison
Riley

What's with the craze of giving first names that were better known as surnames not so long ago?

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SiobhanSharpe · 16/05/2022 11:38

I don't care for it personally but I think it used to be quite a Scottish thing, eg Cameron, Fraser, Muir, Murray, Brodie etc, possibly as a way of perpetuating a surname in a family where it might otherwise have died out.
Anything else is just current fashion and so likely ultimately to become old fashioned, leaving the affected children forever linked to the early 21st century!

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Twizbe · 16/05/2022 11:48

Doing this has been around for generations. It's not a new thing.

It was popular in the Victorian era and often it would be the mother's maiden name. Especially if she didn't have brothers.

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fluffycereal · 16/05/2022 11:52

I don't think it's a craze, it's been happening for many years.

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KirstenBlest · 16/05/2022 11:53

Some of them seem ok, but I don't like the trend.
Some of them are unisex.

Names like Lindsay, Shirley and Leslie now seem dated

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ButterRose · 17/05/2022 06:01

This has been happening for years it's not a recent craze I just think the sounds of some of those names have made them more popular today

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Snowiscold · 17/05/2022 06:46

It’s been around for centuries and is a normal way that names develop, especially male names.

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Justkeeppedaling · 17/05/2022 07:03

Most boys' names are also surnames: Thomas, John, Philip, Andrew, Martin, Christopher, Arthur, Daniel, Joseph, Adam, David, William, Harry, Edward, Charles, Michael, Zachary, Ellis, George, Patrick, Francis.........

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DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 08:23

@Justkeeppedaling , some of those aren't surnames

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Justkeeppedaling · 17/05/2022 08:26

DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 08:23

@Justkeeppedaling , some of those aren't surnames

Those can all be surnames. Which ones are you questioning?

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DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 08:43

@Justkeeppedaling Philip, Andrew, Christopher, Arthur, Joseph, William, Harry, Edward,Michael, Zachary

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DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 08:43

Sorry, Joseph is also a surname.

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InTheNightWeWillWish · 17/05/2022 08:56

It’s not a craze, loads of boys names can be surnames. Although in some cases you would drop the ‘S’ at the end of the surname, such as Roberts, Williams, Andrews, Owens, Matthews, Daniels.

In addition to the ones where you would drop the ‘s’, you have:
James
Thomas
Lee
Cameron
Clarke
Gregory

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DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 09:10

@InTheNightWeWillWish , you'e got that the wrong way round. The surnames are boys' names with an s added.

Similarly, you get surnames like Mac-, Mc-, O'-, P-, B- and -son,where somewhere in the past a man's name was used as his child's surname

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BlondeEgg · 17/05/2022 12:36

I think that it's always happened here but occurs a lot more in America and with social media etc and pop culture being one of Americas biggest exports the surname as first name thing is picking up over here at the speed of light. I know a 19 yo who has a Grayson and she's pregnant with DS2 and considering Hunter!!

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notreadyforthisgelatinousbooty · 17/05/2022 12:51

There is a tradition of using the mother's maiden name as a first name for a child, usually a boy.

But the idea of using basically random surnames that don't have family significance is more recent. I think it has a lot to do with the influence of American pop culture. To me it's noticeable that the surnames are almost always British, and sometimes Irish. But nobody is interested in calling their child Papadopoulos or González.

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ElenaSt · 17/05/2022 12:51

Mortimer.

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Justkeeppedaling · 17/05/2022 13:52

DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 08:43

@Justkeeppedaling Philip, Andrew, Christopher, Arthur, Joseph, William, Harry, Edward,Michael, Zachary

I know people with all of these surnames:
•Mrs Philip - teacher in DCs' old school
•Martin Andrew - bloke at work
•David Christopher - friend of DH
•James Arthur - singer
•Lesley Joseph - actress
•William - ok you've got me there, but Williams is common
•Christopher Harry - guy I was in school with
•Mary Edward - friend of DM
•Alun Michael - politician
•Susan Zachary - in school with me

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DuchessOfSausage · 17/05/2022 14:23

You know all those people? Blimey.

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Snowiscold · 17/05/2022 17:17

notreadyforthisgelatinousbooty · 17/05/2022 12:51

There is a tradition of using the mother's maiden name as a first name for a child, usually a boy.

But the idea of using basically random surnames that don't have family significance is more recent. I think it has a lot to do with the influence of American pop culture. To me it's noticeable that the surnames are almost always British, and sometimes Irish. But nobody is interested in calling their child Papadopoulos or González.

There’s Cruz. And Rocco.

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notreadyforthisgelatinousbooty · 17/05/2022 17:24

@Snowiscold I'm not sure about Cruz, but Rocco is more common in Italy as a first name than as a surname. It's a saint's name.

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MajorCarolDanvers · 17/05/2022 17:24

We've been doing this in Scotland for hundreds of years

Stuart
Cameron
Murray
Fraser
Graham
Lindsay
Kelvin
Gordon
Henry
Lewis
Ross

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KittenKong · 17/05/2022 17:30

There was a little Mackenzie at school with DS. A girl - funny, I would have thought it was a boys name (Mac meaning son of…). She is American, so maybe it’s a namw out there.

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Snowiscold · 17/05/2022 17:46

notreadyforthisgelatinousbooty · 17/05/2022 17:24

@Snowiscold I'm not sure about Cruz, but Rocco is more common in Italy as a first name than as a surname. It's a saint's name.

Oh, Rocco is a saint? I had no idea.

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NippyWoowoo · 17/05/2022 18:29

I don't know, but I much prefer it to the craze of giving pretentious awful names like Hector, Magnus and Calliope.

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Ginisatonic · 17/05/2022 18:45

Most of the boys I grew up with in Scotland, including my brother, had names which you would consider surnames. I’m in my 60s so hardly a new thing.

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