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[everythinghippie29]

Chael, for a boy?

DP loves it, I do like it but so far have only seen one person named it, (a UFC fighter incidentally) and I'm wondering what opinions are or if anyone has heard it elsewhere?

[littlemog]

squoosh whatever. Life is far too short and precious for me to engage in silly squabbles with horrified MNetters like you.

I have just remembered that I used to teach a boy called Sal who was called Salty by everyone including his parents. It really suited him!

[UpTheFRIGGinDuff]

Like shale then?

[ZolaBuddleia]

Chester?

[squoosh]

And again with the passive aggression. How tedious.

I don't actually look 'daft' however you certainly look massively defensive because I took issue with your ignorant post.

[littlemog]

zola Oooh I like Caleb. It's unusual too.

[littlemog]

squoosh you see the thing is, I did not make any ignorant remarks. You became all 'horrified' over nothing and because you had misunderstood my posts. I have explained this and you now look a bit daft but it's ok.

Don't worry about it.

[ZolaBuddleia]

Hhm. Reckon there must be a name of a similar enough ilk for you to like it, but without the repeated ay sound.

Do you like Chad? Keir? Caleb? Cathal (Irish name pr Ca - hull)?

[squoosh]

My God but you're passive aggressive. If you don't like being pulled up on ignorant remarks, well then don't make them.

Happy to help!

[littlemog]

And squoosh I could see that you were having comprehension issues so I tried to make it as simple as possible for you. Glad that you understand now.

See - working even in my hols!

[littlemog]

everythinghippie sorry to railroad your thread somewhat but it is quite difficult getting through to some people as they don't seem to understand what they read!

As I have said, I love traditional names but also have come across some unusual names which I have loved and really suited the child. It is finding the right one that I think is probably a little harder but worth the effort if it's what you want. People sort of become their names anyway.

It is wrong that people judge on names (and it appears that we all do it to a degree) but as another poster said, preconceptions disappear once they have met the person. I think that the hard 'K' sound might be the thing that puts people off your choice....possibly not but it could be that.

Anyway - best of luck with your name hunt! It's all part of the fun.

[squoosh]

Goodness littlemog you do seem to have got yourself in a bit of a tizzy. But don't worry, your writing style is more than simple enough for me to have understood your initial post quite clearly.

[everythinghippie29]

Zola, as mentioned up post it rhymes with male. So the ale would prob be more accurate.

[everythinghippie29]

Littlemog, that's really exactly why I asked so I do appreciate everyone who has offered an opinion.

You are right, regardless of the morality of it, people do judge and make preconceptions so its always good to have an idea of what those will be!

As it stands DP it fairly useless with coming up with names and a lot of my suggestions have been vetoed already! Doh! Part of me was hoping it was an unusual diamond in the rough!

Not a big fan of Charlie, its quite cute on little ones but just not to our tastes- I don't know why.

[ZolaBuddleia]

Nearly there.

And is it ael like ale or ull?

[littlemog]

It's fine that you don't believe I am a teacher. It matters not a jot to me!

I shall try this again, and in simple terms squoosh.

I PREFER TRADITIONAL NAMES

I DO NOT LIKE THE NAME CHAEL yes it makes me think of curly kale

I HAVE MADE NO ASSUMPTIONS AT ALL

Ok?

[squoosh]

Littlemog are you actually a teacher at all? I find that ever so hard to believe. Go back and read your post where you said 'I work in an independent school and most of the names I come across are lovely and traditional and so much nicer than curly Chael.'

Sound familiar?

Of course we make assumptions, I assume there's a high chance that someone called Saoirse will be Irish and someone called Innes will be Scottish, these aren't offensive assumptions, yours are.

Sigh

[littlemog]

hippie I may be a teacher but I am not being judgemental over names apart from the fact that I would find it to be odd/unusual. I gave you my thoughts on the name itself and also my own preferences for traditional names.

Other people might think differently - that is what I was trying to point out! It's worth considering how a name might be perceived by others in the big wide world isn't it?

OP - since you mention it.... Charlie! That is a lovely name! Not tempted?!

[littlemog]

Right squoosh you have just admitted that you would make assumptions about a person based on their name which is exactly what I said! So in fact you are 'horrified' but you agree with me....

Also perhaps you can point out to me where I said that I am appalled at the idea of a child who doesn't have a lovely middle class traditional name ? Here's a hint - you can't because I didn't.

And there you go being all 'horrified' again. Such a silly OTT reaction tbh squoosh , especially when you have agreed that you make assumptions based on names just like everyone else does. Sigh.

[everythinghippie29]

I never saw the chavvy element, but I suppose that label can get thrown around when a name is different. I quite like Jett if I'm honest. I personally like different names and am yet to find a traditional one I really like, I'm not adverse to it however!

Its pronounced with a Ch (like for Charlie) sound.

Quite funny to see some of the reactions as we are rather far away from chavvy and a bit closer to new-agey/ certainly odd!

Points taken that the general consensus isn't positive!

As someone who has worked in a school environment I'm quite surprised that some teachers are as judgemental over names, I can see how initial opinions might be formed but I would certainly hope it wouldn't have an ongoing affect on how you would teach the child. I have seen teachers judge based on areas children live though so I guess I shouldn't be.

[ZolaBuddleia]

Is it CHael like CHair, or CHael like CHopper?

Is it ael like ale or ael like ull?

If it's like ale I wouldn't be keen on the repeated 'ay' sound once it's combined with Taylor.

[peanutMD]

First thing that springs to mind is a minging vegetable.

FWIW OP my DS has a naughty/chavvy name by MN standards (there are about 90 threads on it) can't say its ever held him back, that I know of and so what if people have preconceived ideas. That soon changes when they meet and learn more about the child.

[Writerwannabe83]

I imagine the judgement is based on the type of parents that child has, not the actual child itself.

But then, when you image what the parents are like, you probably make judgements on their parenting styles which in turn makes you guess how well behaved the child may be??

[squoosh]

My preconceived idea would be that Rupert comes from an upper middle class family and Kyle comes from a working class family.

Beyond that I genuinely have no idea what their characters would be. And neither do you. That's why you and other teachers who are appalled at the idea of child who doesn't have a lovely middle class traditional name horrify me.

[bridgetsmum]

I don't like it, looks like you're trying to be a bit wacky and "out there"

It's a silly name IMHO
Sorry

[Writerwannabe83]

I agree with littlemog - everyone makes assumptions about people they don't know based on limited information, and that's just life.

Anyone who says that they never make snap judgements about peope based on their name, job, lifestyle, appearance etc is telling porkies