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AIBU?

To have no sympathy for DP cos he's fat?

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LetterBomb · 11/10/2008 12:00

I am sick to death of DP whinging on about his weight. He's 6.2" and when I first met him he weighed 17stone. He used to go on about his weight then:

"Oh I'm so fat" "I'm such a fat bastard" "don't know how I managed to get someone like you, as I'm so fat and ugly" etc and I would always reply with the standard:

"You're not fat" "don't be stupid" "you are who you are" etc etc...

Then he decided to try and lose weight... however he never tried at all, just kept saying he would 'at some point' try to lose weight.

But as his weight crept up, I kept on supporting him, showed him healthy recipes, tried to put him off buying crap but he would never listen and always make stupid excuses. Now he's 19 stone and still eats like a pig (when we go to subway for instance he gets a foot long sandwich with extra cheese and extra bacon, an XL coke, a packet of crisps and a cookie....McDonalds will be an XL king size meal, usually with a standard burger as a starter).

Last week we bought one of those big bars of dairy milk each, idea was that we'd sit and watch a movie with them that night. So we got home, I told him that I was about to put tea on (this was a hint NOT to eat anything but IMO I shouldn't need to say this, its bloody common sense not to pig out half an hour before tea is served). I went in the kitchen, put some spag bol on (wholemeal pasta, low fat bolognese...trying to help him) and when I went back in the living room he'd litrally eaten HALF of the big bar of dairy milk. He didn't see anything wrong with it.

This morning he tried to put some jeans on and they wouldn't fasten and so he stood there saying "Oh, I'm such a fat bastard..." and I turned around and said "well, you know WHY you're putting weight on, it's not rocket science is it?" so he got all moody and said "oh so you DO think I'm putting weight on? thanks!" and so I lost it and told him he eats like a pig and yes he is fat and greedy.

Sympathy has COMPLETELY ran out.
AIBU?

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Nighbynight · 12/10/2008 19:52

thanks for the tip upwind.

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catsmother · 12/10/2008 14:08

I really sympathise ...... could have written a very similar post about my DP who is about 5 stone overweight and who perpetually whinges about it but does nothing. This is blamed on the fact that as he works long hours he can't go to the gym .... but then walking - at the weekends - is free, and he never does that either. Like yours, mine always goes "large", or "man-size" (WTF !), hoovers up everyone's leftovers at meal times, piles any buffet meal sky high and whilst he says he's happy to eat low-fat healthy stuff then goes and buys large bars of chocolate (200g) which he'll eat of an evening, or have 3 bags of crisps after tea, one after the other.

The thing is he was like this when I first met him 7 years ago BUT one of the first things he said to me was that he hated his stomach (practically all the weight is on his stomach and he looks about 15 months pregnant .... I can't lie and say that I find that physical aspect of him attractive, because I don't) and that he intended to "do something about it" but since then he's done nothing.

Apart from anything "shallow", all this is surely a bloody health risk ? ..... and this is a point I try to drive home (I don't call him fat or greedy, but that's what I think if I'm being honest) but it's always "tomorrow" or the old favourite "no time to go to the gym".

Some of you are probably thinking that I sound unsympathetic and you're right ...... but I feel the way I do as someone who's struggled with her weight most of her adult life and who finally lost 4.5 stone 18 months ago (which I've kept off) and who went from a size 16/18 (it was the 18 that finally kicked me up the arse good an proper) to a size 8/10. Of course it's not easy and I really resent the fact that I'm not (like most people) one of the lucky ones who can eat what they like and not put on weight. But the basic fact is that if you don't burn off what you put it you will get heavier and therefore the choice is eat less calories and/or exercise more. I know that's easier said than done and I can easily eat a big bar of chocolate myself or a huge curry ..... but when I do that, I then rebalance the scales so to speak by eating healthily over the next few days. It's a pain, and I'm not going to pretend I like watching what I eat all the time, especially as I have a real interest in food, ingredients, recipes, cake making and so on, but if I want to stay the size I am now that is what I HAVE to do, pure and simple.

I was overweight after I had my daughter and until April 2007 I'd dieted on and off with varying degrees of success until I found THE diet that finally got me to where I wanted to be. Until then, I'd lose 2 stone or thereabouts and then my lack of willpower would override the desire to be slim and it'd all creep back. I suppose I dieted seriously 4 or 5 times, and got depressed when I didn't succeed ...... but hey, at least I acknowledged I was overweight and actually tried to do something about it - unlike my DP (and yours). The old saying of "if at first you don't succeed, try and try again" is very true ..... and I finally got there. Who knows what the future will bring ? ..... I don't know if I can stay this weight forever, but I do feel very strongly that having worked so hard to get here, I'd be loath to let it go (plus, I wouldn't have anything to wear, and can't afford new clothes, so that's another incentive).

Thing is, I used to moan about being fat but I DID something about it. That's what I can't bear, all the moaning but no trying. That's not going to change a thing is it ? The other thing that really gets me is that after I'd finally lost all the weight I wanted to my DP was full of it, about how great I looked, and how much better I looked "than before". Talk about a backhanded compliment ..... but if he prefers me a lot lighter, does it not occur to him that I might also feel the same ?? Doesn't it ever occur to him that part of losing weight is about being as attractive as you can be for your partner ? That might be a very un-PC thing to say but I'm not going to apologise for it but that was one of the reasons which drove me to lose weight - albeit that the primary one was about looking good for myself, plus I wanted to feel fitter, have a wider choice of clothes, and have more energy.

I don't know what to do about him because as everyone else has rightly identified, like any addiction, the addict has to admit - properly admit - that they have a problem before they can do something about it. Whingeing isn't properly admitting it IMO. I like cooking and have a huge range of healthy alternatives which he probably wouldn't even notice if I didn't tell him, but I can't stop him, as an adult, from "popping out" to Tescos on the pretext we need a loaf and then coming back with 4 custard tarts, of which I'll have 1 (and yes, I am a natural greedy guts and could happily eat 4 myself but you have to ask what's more important, what do you want more, 10 minutes of yummy cake, or being able to wear skinny jeans or whatever). After 7 years, the only thing I can conclude is that my DP simply doesn't WANT to stop indulging himself with food and presumably feels - despite the complaints - that a frankly revolting huge stomach that hangs over his waistband - is an acceptable price to pay for giving in to urges.

After all this time, I honestly feel that the only thing which would kick him into doing something would be some sort of health scare where a doctor said you have GOT to start eating healthily. I almost wish something like that would happen, though obviously a warning as opposed to life and death. Another thing related to this is that he snores appallingly (I could literally kill him and we often sleep apart as a result because I find it impossible to get to sleep) yet over 7 years worth of reasonably frequent visits to the doctor about various niggles, he apparently "forgets" to mention this every single bloody time, despite promising to do so. My gut feeling is that he deliberately doesn't ask because he knows the 1st thing the GP would say is to lose weight (and give up smoking, which is another story) and I therefore feel very angry that his love of stuffing his face at every opportunity is more important when it boils down to it than addressing the issue like an adult.

I don't care if I sound unsympathetic ..... why should I have any sympathy for an adult who whinges about anything but does nothing. I have sympathy in bucketloads for how hard it is to successfully diet - and I have loads of advice and tips I'd be more than happy to share if he wanted me to help him but he has NEVER tried one tiny bit. As for "the gym", I finally lost all my weight purely through rsetricting my calorie intake (note to DP, this doesn't mean eating like a sparrow, it just means eating healthily and indulging yourself sometimes, not all the time) NOT through any form of exercise ..... though admittedly, as the weight came off I found I had more energy and walked more as a result (but we're not talking 10 mile hikes here).

Sorry for the long rant on your post but you're definitely not the only one to feel like this.

(P.S. I am well aware of the danger of keeping "tempting" stuff in the house and therefore I often hide this and ration it out. He definitely doesn't know where it is, or probably even thinks I'm doing it as it's not like I bring stuff out every day, but why should me or the kids be denied a treat now and again ? Yet as I said before, I can't control what he does himself ..... he has a full canteen meal at work, with pudding, coffee and cake on the train home etc. I can't stop that - only he can).

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thegirlwiththecurl · 12/10/2008 12:17

ps - i also don't buy any junk food, crisps etc and as i do the main shop, it means he has to go out and make a special journey just to get these. I don't know whether this helps, but at least i feel as if i don't contribute to his unhealthy eating

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thegirlwiththecurl · 12/10/2008 12:14

OP - you could be me. My dh is vastly overweight, eats and eats and eats and then complains that nothing fits him. He will have a huge dinner, huge pudding then eat an extra large bag or salted peanuts in bed!!! He hates jacket potatoes, salads, fruit, veggies and anything cold -I prefer a much healthier diet. If i cook a meal i like such as a salad and jacket spud, he will go to take away. If i say anything he gets all sad and goes on about how i don't fancy him anymore. I do - I love him too - but his overeating is not pleasant to watch, does not set a good example to dc's and is highly detrimental to his health. This has been my latest tack - telling him how concerned i am about his weight, eating and health and how i don't want to be widowed early (his grandad was also a big man and had a heart attack at the age of 40). He laughs this off - saying that his grandad still lived to an old age, like that is any comfort. He does seem to be taking the hint now and does at least do a lot more walking now and plays football once a week, so it might be worth using this tack instead?

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Amandoh · 12/10/2008 11:47

Blimey, NotDoingTheHousework. I bet you feel better for that!

I completely agree with you though re whingeing but still over eating.

Most of us can not eat what we want, when we want and not gain weight.

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NotDoingTheHousework · 12/10/2008 11:17

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Upwind · 12/10/2008 10:08

Nighbynight - I buy the dark chocolate with raisins and nuts in Sainsburys

OP - I don't think there is much point in you buying any books for your DH, because given what you've said about his attitude he just won't read them. You have to somehow hope he goes and buys them himself. Maybe tell him how well various approaches have worked for others.

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bleurgh · 12/10/2008 08:12

No, you're not being unreasonable. Put up or shut up is what I say. If he's fat and he doesn't like it he shouldn't moan to you and not do anything about it. He's only sensitive because he knows you're right. You've been trying to help him and for pete's sake why shouldn't you have chocolate in front of a movie? He would have eaten half of yours anyway. I guess I would still have sympathy but I would definitely be going for the tough love option at this point.

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Twelvelegs · 12/10/2008 08:04

I think you have to buy him Paul McKenna's book. Or stick him on the Cambridge diet.... I know a lady who has lost 6 stones since April on diet alone.

He has got to want to do it, though and reach his lowest point and then he could decide how.

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Nighbynight · 12/10/2008 07:59

if you google "help addict food" a lot of interesting stuff comes up, eg www.foodaddicts.org. But the fact that they say they follow the AA program to help people, underlines that the motivation has to come from him.

mlm and much sympathy ( but that is a terrific rant!)

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Lauriefairycake · 11/10/2008 23:29

mamalovesmambo

I am laughing my tits off

what a dreamboat your dh is.......

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mamalovesmambo · 11/10/2008 23:27

Try living with my Dh if he knows there is Chocolate in the house, he will wake up in the middle of the night, rustl the fucking wraapper and chomp as loud as god damn posible go out for a fag (AND A FARKIN PEE ON OUR REAR LAWN (CU*T) and the haul his fat white untoned farty burpy permanent hard on body into bed and then proceed to hump my fucking leg until he gets a punch in the jaw. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaagh i fucking hate men

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Ronaldinhio · 11/10/2008 23:06

glad you like it the stickers are somewhat questionable...especially for a week where he makes a big loss

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Lauriefairycake · 11/10/2008 23:05

The guy is addicted and from what you describe is blaming you to a certain extent for not enabling/sometimes enabling his addiction.

He also sounds bored and obsessed with food.

And not very comfortable in his skin.

Do you love him otherwise? Do you have lots of good times together?

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ilovemydog · 11/10/2008 23:04

good idea ronaldinho - like a reward chart for the kids. stickers perhaps? .

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expatinscotland · 11/10/2008 22:59

'how about really supporting your OH by doing this with him?'

How about a person taking responsibility for their addictions and deciding on their own to address them on their own terms before blaming others for their problems?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

That's how it is.

Be if food/fat, drinking, smoking, etc.

If the person just doesn't want to be that fat person/drinker/smoker/junkie anymore then all the support in the world will not change a thing.

It has to come from within.

So whilst the OP is a tad unreasonable because this person obviously had a problem with food and weight before they married, she's not entirely unreasonable for getting frustrated at his whinging about it.

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onepieceoflollipop · 11/10/2008 22:53

My exh sounds a little like your dh...I was once at his GPs with him (on an issue not related to his weight problem)...and the GP turned to me and asked me what I was feeding him to make him so obese.

We divorced 11 years ago (not due to his weight but lots of issues including his bullying behaviour). I still clearly remember (at his request) spending time and effort on putting together healthy meals, lunch boxes etc, only to find out (mutual friends joking) about how he just supplemented all this with a large fry up at work followed by a hot chips and something type lunch.

He had major self esteem issues, and he had no respect for me either.

I really hope that you find a solution.

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Nighbynight · 11/10/2008 22:48

Upwind - I had to avoid milk in my diet for years, and never found dark choc with nuts and raisins - where do you get it?

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Ronaldinhio · 11/10/2008 22:47

what would we be saying if a man started this thread (shoot me if this has been said already)
if you really want him to lose weight make it a positive thing and reinforce it by sexual treats

waits for flaming

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twentypence · 11/10/2008 22:42

He sounds more bored than hungry. How can you afford all those takeaways?

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saffiw · 11/10/2008 22:30

I believe yabu.
From what you have posted, you have told him in more than one way and on more than one occasion that you find him fat and unattractive. Which makes a person just jump at the chance to loose weight!
He is depressed, and will not lose weight until he sorts out his inner demons, get him to counselling before he goes on a diet.

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controlfreakyagain · 11/10/2008 22:27

the diet you describe dh eating sounds soooo excessive and sooooo unhealthy. doesn't he realise the health risks his diet brings? think you will really have to put your critical / disgusted feelings on one side here and decide to really really support him to do something about this....

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Ashantai · 11/10/2008 22:17

Ok i've had a few drinks and that first line made not sense at all! LOL

To clarify, YANBU

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Ashantai · 11/10/2008 22:15

I dont think YANBU at all. You are not his mum fgs. Frankly i think you have done loads to help him but all he wants to do is whinge.

You cook healthy meals, have fruit in the house, keep yourself active and invite him along. If he doesnt want to help himself, then he will never lose the weight.

Id be at the end of my tether too, if my OH whinged on and on but didnt help himself!

Oh and i speak as a reformed whinger who finally stopped whinging and lost 3 and a half stone with just one more to go

Get him off his lazy arse!!

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ravenAK · 11/10/2008 22:02

Have -you- he tried going to your GP?

Dh was 28 stone at his heaviest. (He ate quite a bit less than the OP's dp & is also 6'3).

I eventually dragged him to the doctor because he was utterly miserable. She prescribed appetite suppressants & 3 years later he's lost 9 stone. It became a virtuous circle - having lost a bit of weight, he's taken up exercise, given up booze...

Possibly TMI - the drugs dh was initially on, if he'd mixed them with curry & chips...well, he'd only have done it once, put it that way!

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