*WIBU* to move my fence back a few inches....

[TriciaH87]

For reference it would not be taking any land from a neighbouring house. We have wasted land about 5 meters wide behind our house followed by a line of trees and then a train track. We purchased a 4meter swimming pool to go into the area behind the shed but we are about 4 inches short on the count of legs need a bit of extra space. When they tell you measurements it should really be for the whole area needed. I have 3 fence posts in my garden would you if you were me move the middle one back a few inches to allow for the pool legs. Our garden at the back slopes and gets shorter from the left to the right if the line had been straight it would of been fine. The land behind cannot be used for building on because its a huge hill follewed by train line so the only time anyone ever goes round there is the maintenance team to strim it every few months or usually me to fetch the bloody football when the kids kick it over which is a 15 minute walk to the area to access it. If I did move my fence back a couple inches should I put in a gate to fetch the ball. Had to go round 3 times today to fetch the bloody thing.

[GiantKitten]

When houses were built behind us the original fence, where the last house is, stuck out by at least a foot from the adjoining older garden, and this was how the plans were drawn.
However the builders just did a straight diagonal - dotted line on scribbled drawing. (We were very pleased because our back street is pretty narrow)
No idea how the land registry deeds were drawn mind you, but it could be that OP’s builders did something similar.
I’m not sure moving a fence by inches would even be noticed?

[FangsForTheMemory]

You sound like a CF to me. It's not yours, but you'd like it, so you plan to grab.

What happened to honesty?

[TriciaH87]

Actually I accidentally posted that one after this one last night and have no bloody idea how to delete it so have been responding on both.

[Soubriquet]

@user1471530109

Déjà vu....

Yes...thought I was going mad there

Where is the photo with the huge paddling pool

[MeglaFlop]

I swear I commented on this... No more wine for me!

[Bluetrews25]

She's getting a lot of stick on the other thread, hence the new one.

[Perisoire]

I would do it.

[ShinyMe]

What's wrong with your other thread?

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

That is so very different from your description in the OP!

You would have had an entirely different set of responses had you led with that!!!

[TriciaH87]

The land registry states it is owned by the housing development company not the railway. You also cannot see the fence from the railway given that the hill in between is higher than the fence and the 100ft trees behind the hill in front of the track.

[MaddieElla]

I deal with this at work every week. The railway will spend thousands making you rectify any changes you make if you don’t tell them about it.

However if you ask them about it (and it won’t cause damage to the bank - that is key) they rarely give a toss.

We’re awkward like that.

[TriciaH87]

Normal backyard fence posts don't look set in concrete. 100%waste land. It seems a neighbour has moved theirs back further along as their fence is a fair bit further out. However none of the fences are actually in a straight line so slotting in an extra couple pieces of wood is unlikely to notice. Going to look at deeds first see if Gardens at the length it should be as its possible from a few other houses that are more of a straight line it may be ours anyway but we shall see.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

If you do that and the rail track walkers notice they will serve you notice to remove and make good.

Given the nature if a rail bank that could be very expensive.

Yes, other people do it, yes they get away with it... Until they get a huge bill.

Please, just don't fuck around with land adjoining a railway!!!

[longwayoff]

Someone strims it, so someone else owns it. If it's a piece of land embanking the railway, presumably its owned by the railway owners and staff are likely to notice any attempt to encroach on it as its empty for safety reasons. You may be fined as this is a criminal, rather than civil, offence.

[user1471530109]

Déjà vu....

[1forsorrow]

As Geri says the plans aren't that accurate, we had a dispute with a neighbour who taken a few inches of our garden, in our case it mattered as it mean the side of our house became the boundary and their child kept bouncing his basket ball on it and the noise drove us mad. So the fence was moved from our house and we have a small gap between the house and the fence. The land registry told us the plans couldn't prove the exact position of the boundary within a certain amount, can't remember but I know it covered our six inches, but on the plan it was a straight line so we won the case as on the plan the boundary was a straight line from the bottom of the garden to the road at the front and as it was there was the fence at the back and the front and instead of it just continuing between the houses if was attached to our house. Not sure if that makes sense. Anyway I think you are safe for a few inches.

Re the fence, we have a house that backs onto land that is a grassy area in front of some other houses, we don't have access rights but we intend to have one fence panel on hinges so it won't look like a gate but will open. I can't imagine anyone bothering.

[GeriGeranium]

Your legal boundary as shown at the land registry is nowhere near specific enough to be certain about those few inches. It’s only accurate to within a meter or so. The exact boundary is determined by reference to structures/natural features nearby.

So it’s highly unlikely anybody would notice or quibble over a few inches.

I’d do it, but be discreet and subtle about it. Move the fence when there’s nobody else around. Don’t disturb plants anymore than necessary - you don’t want it to look like you’ve dug anything up. Don’t put in a gate that’s visible from the outside.

If you’re ever asked about it, look innocent and say you did once mend the fence and might have accidentally moved it a little, even if they have noticed and tell you to move it back you won’t really get into trouble unless you refuse.

For the sake of a few inches of unused land I’d go ahead.

[BamboozledandBefuddled]

Housing development companies don't see losing a few inches of land as a minor thing. If you do this and they find out, there's a very high chance that you'll face legal action. I also think it's quite likely that if your gate comes to the attention of either railway employees or the development company, the matter will be looked into.

[endofthelinefinally]

Someone local has moved their fence 10 feet onto council land. They appear to have got away with it.
A few inches is unlikely to be noticeable.

[safariboot]

If it's obviously disused wasteland then I'd say YANBU. But how big's the fence? I'm imagining a 6 foot closeboard fence with posts set in concrete and moving those would be a major pain in the arse. Modifying just the panels would be more manageable. But if the fence is something lighter then it'd be easier.

Just be aware you could be asked to move it back. So relying on that space to fit your pool in might not be so clever.

[NoIDontWatchLoveIsland]

Do it. And in a few years time if you aren't challenged you may actually get some rights over it so it can't be shifted back.

[User8008135]

A few inches? Yes I'd move it and put in a gate. Even if you didn't move it I'd put the gate in to save 15 minutes every time

[NaNaNaNaNaNaBaNaNa]

Can't move your shed over at all? Rotate it? Chop a bit of the roof overhang off? Make move one of the walls a couple of inches?

[TriciaH87]

@fifthtimelucky see image for garden shape. It slopes left to right I have no inch at top of pool to move it that's the problem. P is pool s shed g grass. If that angle was a tiny bit less it would fit. Basically if I cut a hole in my fence it would be fine but that would mean next doors fence would be less stable. If I move the post a couple inches the pool won't push on the fence panel.