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Why are people now saying ‘use to’ instead of ‘used to’?

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FaithHopeAndSkulduggery · 01/10/2018 23:48

And leaving out the ‘ed’ on lots of words.

‘Bake beans’. No it’s baked beans.

‘I use to like that show’ . No, it’s fucking ‘used to’.

Lots of other examples I can’t bring to mind right now.

I want to burn the screen when I see that.

Also, when people say ‘long story short’ in conversation instead of ‘to cut a long story short’.

Aibu to hate this?

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Shallishanti123 · 02/10/2018 08:07

"I miss not seeing you"

Crypt, maybe they are trying to say they don't want to see that person anymore? Perhaps life was better when they didn't see them🤣

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CryptoFascist · 02/10/2018 08:05

"I miss not seeing you"

I see this type of thing lots, why don't people think about whether what they're saying makes sense?

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PositiveVibez · 02/10/2018 08:04

when I say baked beans and make an effort to emphasise the "d" it sounds like I am trying to put on a really rubbish Italian accent!!

😂😂😂 Bake-da beans

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glintandglide · 02/10/2018 08:04

I find it really weird that people get so angry about this sort of thing. Makes you sound a bit crazy .

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JamieVardysHavingAParty · 02/10/2018 08:01

No, it isn't. That is apparently how strongly I feel about apostrophes. Blush

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MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 02/10/2018 07:59

We are going cinema

To the!!! Ffs

My most hated however is 'could of'

I'm in a bad mood now 😬

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AGHHHH · 02/10/2018 07:54

First one would be grammatically uncorrect! I'm, I'm, I'm!

Uncorrect is not a word!

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lifechangesforever · 02/10/2018 07:53

Why are people using 'use' instead of 'yous' (not that you's is any better!) 'are use going into town today'

AND

Why has the world 'all' started cropping into everything 'who's all going on holiday this month'

Envy

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JamieVardysHavingAParty · 02/10/2018 07:52

Why wouldn't you just text 'Im going to cinema for brevity instead of 'Am going to the cinema'.

First one would be grammatically uncorrect! I'm, I'm, I'm!

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 02/10/2018 07:45

It is Sparkle.

The next big changes as far as English is concerned will probably be spelling related. English isn't very phonetic- which is why pronunciation is the hardest thing for most learners of English as a foreign language, especially those coming from very phonetic languages (Spanish, Italian etc) and also why English schoolchildren have so much trouble learning to read.

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Sethis · 02/10/2018 07:45

If you're trying to enunciate the D in "Used to" and sound Italian, it's probably because you're trying to force the wrong -ed sound. It has 3 different pronunciations.

"Cook the mince until browned" -duh sound
"The industry isn't regulated" -ed sound
"I watched the football last night" -tuh sound

3 different words with the -ed suffix, 3 different pronunciations of the same letter combination. English is a bugger.

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Sparklesocks · 02/10/2018 07:42

I think it’s quite interesting how language changes and evolves.

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 02/10/2018 07:41

"didn't used to" and "did you used to" often gets past proofreaders as well.

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InfiniteSheldon · 02/10/2018 07:40

Thee ist a foolish dolt should thee but worrit bout such nonsuch

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 02/10/2018 07:40

Sorry, when I say not a phrasal verb- I mean, not a phrasal verb in the way you have explained them. Your explanation of the pronunciation is incorrect.

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 02/10/2018 07:37

"Used to" is not a phrasal verb.

I /juːzd/ Fairy Liquid to wash the dishes but I /juːst/ to use Sainsbury's own brand.

Two completely different verbs, two completely different pronunciations.

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ShatnersBassoon · 02/10/2018 07:36

They probably don't read a lot. If they've only ever come across these words and phrases in speech, they might not hear the 'ed' that often gets lost between words.

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Sethis · 02/10/2018 07:33

If you say "I used to go" pronouncing the final "ed", then you're using the pronunciation for the verb "to use" not the verb "used to" so you're the one who is wrong.

There is no such thing as the verb "Used to".

Verbs have an infinitive form, such as "to play" or "to go" or "to see".

"Used to" is a common phrasal verb, using the verb "to use" and the preposition "to". The two main iterations of it are "To be used to something" and "Something I used to do". Examples:

I'm used to my partner elbowing me in the face when we sleep together.

I used to be a rock climber, but these days I don't have time.

The correct pronunciation of Phrasal Verbs is completely unchanged from the pronunciation of their component verbs and prepositions - if you have the verb "to look" and the preposition "out" to make the phrasal verb "Look out" e.g. "Look out for some decent cheese when you go shopping today" then you don't pronounce either of the words any differently to how they're normally pronounced.

It's exactly the same with "Used to". While it's common to pronounce it as "Yoos tuh" rather than "Yoost tuh" it isn't empirically correct. You should pronounce both the D and the T separately. However we're lazy, and so we don't. It's simply common practice, even if it's technically incorrect.

There's no excuse for missing out the D in written form apart from ignorance.

However in the negative form, you don't use the D. It's "Didn't use to" not "Didn't used to" because you wouldn't say "Did not used to".

For the record, I'd say that skipping the pronoun "Am going to the shops" is less of a mistake than skipping the contraction apostrophe in "I'm" which is why I sometimes write the former, but would never write "Im going to the shops".

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 02/10/2018 07:32

Atomisation I guess explains "long story short" and I agree, it's fascinating.

The anomaly of current language trends is "text" being used (that's "used" as past tense of the verb "use" so with the D pronounced Wink) as the past tense, when all new verb past tenses are regular.

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sansouci · 02/10/2018 07:31

Lazy, poorly educated...

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Spiderdemon · 02/10/2018 07:26

This is atomisation, I think? It's one of the coolest things in language change. In English for over 700 years language has been getting more and more atomised and some parts of words which signal the grammar (eg "where you are in time" like I'm biased vs I'm bias) are changing.

individual speakers have loads of reasons for doing it, some conscious and some unconcious. Signalling informality, trying to sound in a posher register without knowing some 'rules' etc etc. But the process overall is utterly fascinating and has been going on for ages.

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FaithHopeAndSkulduggery · 02/10/2018 07:24

Surely the only explanation is because English is taught phonetically in schools now?

The only thing I can think of.

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PiperPublickOccurrences · 02/10/2018 07:19

Because they are wrong and stupid.

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mellongoose · 02/10/2018 07:17

@Iblinkedandiamold it annoys me when people 'do' countries. Eg 'I've done South America'. No you haven't. You've visited various countries and tourist attractions.

OP I'm with you.

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FaithHopeAndSkulduggery · 02/10/2018 07:15

This.

Why are people now saying ‘use to’ instead of ‘used to’?
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