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AIBU to be a nag

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AmiU · 03/12/2017 22:42

I am at my wits end with DH. We've been married 8 years and fight incessantly. He maintains this is because I'm a 'nag' who is perpetually arsey. I'm always looking for faults and it's entirely my doing that our relationship is so rubbish.

I feel like I am driven to constant nagging by his behaviour but I hate saying that, as it sounds awfully close to an abusive/ controlling partner.

These were tonight's events, but they pretty much represent every day of our lives.

DH has been gone for a week. Four days for a business trip and then three days tacked on as a holiday (annual leave) to stay somewhere warm and sunny with his family. Holiday was not discussed with me, when I pointed out it should have been, I was told I was a terrible person trying to isolate him from his family. Conference call was held with his family discussing my faults.

I've been home alone with a DD5 and DS2, both unwell and asthmatic, no support network or childcare.

I really did not want to argue on his first day back.

He flew back this evening (first class) and:

Called from the taxi to enquire about dinner. Moaned about what I'd made and asked for different dinner. I made modifications.

Entered, throwing jacket on the floor, kicking off shoes and socks, opening suitcase and flinging out belongings while searching for a present. I politely asked him not to make a mess. Was ignored.

Said present was showed off. It was a designer present for himself, from the airport. Nothing for me. I admired the present.

Went to use the toilet and left a disgusting mess. Did not clean it. I ask him to do so nearly every day of my life. Ignored each time.

He demanded a back massage to de-stress from the flight (child free! First class!) I complied. Whined about how rubbish my massage was, he could tell I wasn't exerting enough effort.

I asked him to help with a small component of the bedtime routine (heating milk for DS). Was told I was inconsiderate as he'd had a long flight. Did bedtime myself, as I have for the last week and every weeknight.

Got to DS's room to find that he had passed out on DS's bed, snoring incredible loudly. Asked him to move. He replied I was picking a fight, my child and I are too precious, I should work around him and put DS to sleep. DS obviously wouldn't settle, and has taken forever to go to sleep. I have just left his room at 10:30 pm!

I am now FUMING and I know I won't have the patience to do it all again tomorrow without snapping.

I feel really guilty, because it's true that he gets on with whatever he wants to do, and suggests I do the same. I'm the one whose always pointing out his behaviour. I don't want to be controlling and bitter and negative but I feel as though I'm backed into a corner, or AIBU?

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gingergenius · 04/12/2017 23:51

Sorry wrong thread!

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gingergenius · 04/12/2017 23:49

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 04/12/2017 18:53

You should remind your husband you are not unpaid maid/ hooker/incubator for his kids....

Assuming this is not a fake post... And sadly I think it is real... Please don't waste any more time on this first class pig

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romany4 · 04/12/2017 11:19

Get out now before he completely grinds you down. I would not want my kids growing up seeing his treatment of you and thinking it's normal

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Madwoman5 · 04/12/2017 10:25

He had a conference call with his family to discuss your failings? Wtaf?!
Leave him and grow a life for yourself. It will be hard with money short but if you follow the advice given by posters here re paperwork, he will not be able to wriggle out of paying up. This is emotional abuse and he will break you down.
I would be tempted to ask him why, if you are such an appalling wife, he bothers coming home at all? Do you really want your kids mirroring that behaviour?

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PostcodeJack · 04/12/2017 10:17

I'm reeling at the conference call. WTAF? I have a high tolerance for twattish behaviouur but this is beyond the pale. Have my first LTB

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blueskyinmarch · 04/12/2017 09:56

He is a selfish controlling bastard. I don't often suggest this but I would say to LTB.

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chickenowner · 04/12/2017 09:46

AmiU - you are not being a nag. The behaviour you describe from your husband is completely unreasonable.

I agree with all the PPs who have advised sorting out your life as much as you can so that you can leave him.

Can you leave important documents and copies of things like payslips, bank statements etc at a friends house?

Do you have qualifications? If not, could you get some? Or update them?

As a child of parents who argued all the time my advise is not to stay with your husband for the sake of your children. My parents stayed together until my DB and I were late teenagers, and they thought they were doing the right thing for us. They were not. We knew that they weren't happy and this had an impact on us. We both wished that they had divorced at least 10 years earlier than they did.

Sending all my best wishes for you, and hope that you can sort this out and have a happier life. Smile

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ColonelJackONeil · 04/12/2017 09:45

Your situation sounds quite difficult with him being from an influential family in another culture and you both living here away from your home country. Just remember you are not totally trapped, you could leave any time if you really need to. Resources are available for women in need.
However it seems like it would be better to do as others suggest and play the long game. Build up some resources and money. Find support and get to know exactly were you stand legally.
But if you become scared of him or feel he may hurt you you can leave very quickly and get help through woman's aid to go to a refuge.

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AmiU · 04/12/2017 09:39

Thank you all so much for replying, I haven't been able to talk to anyone irl about any of this and it's very hard to get your head straight without speaking to someone

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AmiU · 04/12/2017 09:38

To be very honest he has been violent in the past, and although it hasn't happened again for years I'm also a bit scared if leaving him might trigger him

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tampinfuminragin · 04/12/2017 09:02

I couldn't live like that.

If my husband came home and tried to pull that kind of shit, he would have been shown the door while I cooled off.

Are you happily married Op? If you want to stay married, maybe some couples counselling?

If not, do what makes you happy.

Your husband and his family sound awful to be honest with you.

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gingergenius · 04/12/2017 08:56

He sounds a delight OP. LTB

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burntup · 04/12/2017 08:51

You poor love. Is he controlling with money as well? You need to start squirrelling what you can away.

Find a lawyer with experience of working with his culture - they need to know the tricks. There is so much more to life than being treated as a slave. Give yourself the opportunity to be happy.

I'm guessing from your post that you are relatively comfortable financially by staying with him. Don't stay because of that unless you are willing to be treated like his until you are an old lady. And remember if you stay that you will probably treat your future daughter in law as his family treat you as he will still be controlling everyone.

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whataconundrum · 04/12/2017 08:46

He sounds disgusting. Leave now

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MojoMoon · 04/12/2017 08:28

Did you work/have a career before having children? Do you have any qualifications or experience that would help you get back into work?

You need to learn as much as possible about your husband's finances, bank accounts, copy the information and hide it. Set up a bank account in your own name and a credit card (not to use lots but to start having a good credit history of your own and make it easier if you leave)

Also get hold of your children's passports and hide them well. Preferably outside the home, perhaps a small storage unit could be hired? A tiny one is not expensive. If things are particularly bad, don't travel to your home country or don't let your children be taken there. It might be hard to get them returned.

It sounds like he is away for a work quite a bit? This gives you some time and space to plan. You could see a solicitor for an initial conversation and ask them to outline the steps to getting a divorce and what steps can be taken to ensure your financial security. You could also look into how to ensure he cannot remove your children from this country.

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RottenTomatoes959 · 04/12/2017 08:00

Get all your ducks in a row and divorce. That is no way to live.

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Jaffalong · 04/12/2017 07:35

Agree with pp advising you to play the long game, slowly prepare for your escape.

  1. Don't 'nag' be as rational as humanly possible. Suitcase dumped on the floor & expensive man toys paraded around = please put your gifts away as the kids will be upset because you didn't buy them gifts. Don't mention yourself. Show him up to be a man child be being extremely reasonable and rational.


  1. Unflushed toilet = please flush the loo because dd gets upset seeing the mess


  1. Photocopy all important docs such as passports, his bank statements, wage slips, property deeds etc. Copy it and store it somewhere safe, a solicitor or bank if you have to pay for it.


  1. Don't trust anyone from your culture, they all seem to stick together and silently collude in situations like this.


  1. Open a separate online bank account and start building up an escape fund. Can you slowly sell unwanted toys, clothes etc and put the money away?


  1. Can you get a job even if it's a school lunch time supervisor? Having access to your own independent money is so important.
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AmiU · 04/12/2017 07:24

Goldfish- that's exactly how I feel, like my sanity is being eroded and I only ever feel numb or angry. I don't want my children to hate me for staying with him but what if they later hate me for leaving them isolated and impoverished?

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DownTownAbbey · 04/12/2017 06:46

Exactly what givemesteel said.

As he's got your culture and possibly a lot of family on his side you need to be careful about hinting at divorce. Play the long game. Save secretly and get legal advice on the quiet. Good luck.

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GoldfishCrackers · 04/12/2017 06:19

Oh OP this is no way to live. I can't see how you could preserve your mental well-being living with this. It's brilliant that you're questioning this: you know you deserve better than this.

Using the word 'nag', only used to describe women, is a nasty trick. It trivialises the request and puts you in your place. Makes women scared to ask to be treated like human beings in case we're seen as nagging. Could you just imagine if your husband did any of those things at work? Walked in and emptied his bag on the floor, shat all over the toilet and fell asleep in a colleague's chair? He'd be pulled up on it right away; he'd be rightly embarrassed; and if he had to be asked twice, the focus would be on him being messy/rude/lazy, not on the colleague being a nag.

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Shoxfordian · 04/12/2017 05:54

Your husband sounds very disrespectful and sexist. If I make dinner for my partner then he eats it all and thanks me for doing it; doesn't complain and ask for something else- you shld remind your husband you're not running a restaurant!

Your children are learning this is normal in a relationship from you; if you leave him then they'll see it is not ok

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AmiU · 04/12/2017 05:34

"Did you grow up seeing your own mother and female relatives treated like this? Maybe you thought it was normal until you joined MN."

Exactly this

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givemesteel · 04/12/2017 04:51

I think the issue is that your situation won't improve significantly if it is enshrined in yours and his culture that it is acceptable for him to treat you this way, which it sounds like it is. Yes you can be less obliging (stop the back massages and changing dinners etc) but that not going to make him the sort of dh that helps with childcare, thinks about your needs and doesn't conf call his family to complain about you (!). Unless you think the threat of divorce would give him a wake up call.

Did you have a job / career before marrying him / kids?

I think it is easy for us from a different culture to say ltb but we haven't got those cultural pressures. Your husband's behaviour is certainly worthy of divorce but only you can decide if you can manage if you get disowned by your community.

I would start playing a long game, find yourself some part to me work at least. Stop being such a compliant wife. Start squirreling money away. Get legal advice. Get contraception he doesn't know about (eg implant). Basically try and make a plan where you can leave in 12 months time.

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dentalplanlisaneedsbraces · 04/12/2017 02:57

Fucking hell. He's a first class wanker. LTB

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