In thinking this woman should have been charged with rape ??

[SatansLittleHelper2]

She anally penetrated a man until he was bleeding and yet pretty much got off with it.

And yes,I know in theory she can't be charged with rape but ffs. 😑

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-film-maker-brink-suicide-11321695.amp

[Ttbb]

Unless she has a penis she hasn't raped him according to the law (not that I think that it is right)

[MiniMum97]

That is an appalling lenient sentence. She should have been sent to prison for this. Disgusting.

[CockacidalManiac]

Not rehabilitation?

We don't have enough room for every offender to get jail time

Then we prioritise who we send to jail. Non-habitual, non-violent offenders probably not.
Those who sexually assault others? Oh, yes. They can have have some rehab when they’ve had some punishment.

[blackteasplease]

Nope, not strange at all. Male violence, including sexual violence, against women is at epidemic levels. Not so the other way around. So reversing the sexes doesn't work because the context is completely different.

^^
This

[TittyGolightly]

Anyone who sexually assaults anyone else should get jail time.

Not rehabilitation?

We don't have enough room for every offender to get jail time!

[kali110]

Disgraceful, should have got a custodial sentence, but then sexual assaults don't seem to get long these days.
Very brave of him to speak out.
Hopefully this woman is now the one ashamed.

[ArcheryAnnie]

I'm affraid it's another example of a woman being given a very leniant sentence for something a man woild be locked up for

Oh, and this is nonsense, too. This happens all the time, and the men get away with it. It happens so much that many, many women wouldn't even bother to report it.

Have you ever been in a closely-packed crowd at a gig? Or in a heaving mass of dancers at a club? When I was young I would not go to these without wearing thick, tight jeans. There was a reason for this.

[ArcheryAnnie]

Anyone who sexually assaults anyone else should get jail time.

I did notice the victim say that a man who did that to a woman would have been punished much more. He is completely ignorant of how rape is usually treated if he genuinely thinks that. Most men who rape get off scot-free, time and again, for years. When they are convicted, they frequently don't even lose their reputation,. never mind their liberty.

[FuckShitJackFairy]

Get- yes i have had that said to me also. Despite the fact i was a young child.

There was a case recently where victim compensation of peadophiles was refused as the girls apparantly 'consented' despite being children at the time.

With regards to the differing definitions of rape and sexual assualt (that have same sentacing potential iirc) rape is a different term legally and imo shpuld stay that way because it comes with different risks of additional truama of pregnancy for female victims(that alone can end a womans life) and stds (its around 9 times more likely that a woman cam catch std/i's from penile penatration than a male from a woman). Having been pregnant as the result of rape (by coersion) and raped and sexually assualted by both men and women dealing with that pregnancy and how it ended was a different truama from the emotiobal/physical truama i sustained from other assualts. It wasn't worse but mentally it was different and i'm happy the terms are different legally speaking.

[museumum]

'm affraid it's another example of a woman being given a very leniant sentence for something a man woild be locked up for.

I Don’t for one second believe men are locked up for unwanted digital penetration of women at a house party when drunk!
Most likely thee just say the woman agreed.

It’s a horrid assault but no more horrid for being female on male rather than the other way round. And I did nt believe prosecuted or sentenced any differently.

[DearMrDilkington]

Poor guy, it's very brave of him to come out and talk about this.

[FuckShitJackFairy]

I forget the details of it but on twitter recently there have been articles/studies or something doing the rounds comparing sentances women and men get for mpv crimes that shows women are subject to much harsher sentancing than males. There is certainly much worse outrage in the media, rosmary west and myra hindley are generally portrayed as much worse and more culpable than their male counter parts. I'm sure posters who frequent the feminism section would have better knoweldge on harsher sentances for females.

[limitedperiodonly]

I'm affraid it's another example of a woman being given a very leniant sentence for something a man woild be locked up for.

It's not. It's a quirk of the Scottish criminal justice system where digitally penetrating a person is not treated as rape. If you have a beef about it you are better taking it up with the Scottish Parliament rather than tired old bleating about women

[ladystarkers]

Thats just awful.

[GetYourHandsOffMyUnicorn]

well next time a women is raped or has fingers go someone she doesn’t want we’ll ask her the same shall we? Ffs can’t believe people still say stuff like well didn’t you trying pushing them away

Well tbf people do say that about women who are assaulted. I've been raped and I have had people ask me why I didn't try to fight him off or fight harder but I did bloody try to fight him off. He was just too strong for me and no matter how hard I tried, I just couldn't budge him.

[stitchglitched]

Actually Babycham talked about double standards first, and the articles about this case have made similar claims.

[SepiaTintedRose]

SoupDragon And yet if you make any sort of comment about reversing the sexes on a thread with a female victim, you are accused of "whataboutery"

Strange that.

Nope, not strange at all. Male violence, including sexual violence, against women is at epidemic levels. Not so the other way around. So reversing the sexes doesn't work because the context is completely different.

[GunnyHighway]

Where's the outrage for the women assaulted every single day?

Seems to be a lot surrounding the Weinstein case.

[CockacidalManiac]

Taking about female victims and perpetrators on a thread where the article and posters themselves have implied that the sentence was lenient
because the victim was male and the perp female is a legitimate discussion to correct false assertions.

You were the first poster to mention that point, 21 posts in. You created that particular argument on this thread, and then you’re criticising the fact that it’s been mentioned at all?!

[Sallystyle]

you're right, there's always a lot of outrage on the rare occasion a man is assaulted by a women. Where's the outrage for the women assaulted every single day?


Oh I think there is a hell of a lot of outrage out there. Many of us are outraged that women are assaulted daily.

This thread is about this incident though. It's not ok to say 'what about the men' when we are discussing a case relating to a woman so it shouldn't be ok to say 'what about women' when discussing a case relating to a male.

I'm affraid it's another example of a woman being given a very leniant sentence for something a man woild be locked up for.

That's just factually incorrect isn't it?

[PinkHeart5914]

120 hours of community service is a pathetic sentence, I mean seriously what is wrong with the law system.

Didn't he try to get away or push her off? well next time a women is raped or has fingers go someone she doesn’t want we’ll ask her the same shall we? Ffs can’t believe people still say stuff like well didn’t you trying pushing them away sometimes I really do wonder what is wrong with some people

Where's the outrage for the women assaulted every single day? Well I personally am outraged by anyone male or female being assaulted in this way

[stitchglitched]

Also SoupDragon reversing the sexes on a thread about a female victim would be whataboutery because victims of sexual assault are overwhelming female and being asked to forget that and focus on a very small group of men is often used as a derariling tactic to undermine discussion about the gendered nature of sexual offences.

Taking about female victims and perpetrators on a thread where the article and posters themselves have implied that the sentence was lenient because the victim was male and the perp female is a legitimate discussion to correct false assertions.

[WitchesHatRim]

Yes and I'm interested in the level of outrage at this specific offence and the motivation of those trying to imply it would be different if the victim was a woman.

Then start a thread about it.

[PotteringAlong]

In plenty of countries that WOULD be classed as rape, so enough of the semantics

But not in the uk. So it's not semantics, it's a legal point.

[GetYourHandsOffMyUnicorn]

I'm affraid it's another example of a woman being given a very leniant sentence for something a man woild be locked up for. It happens on a daily basis. Look how many of these female teachers escape prison time for abusing a student, or that girl last week who stabbed her boyfriend and got off scot-free.

Are you being sarcastic?