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To think no, I wasn't in a strop, I was just sick of being insulted.

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HarrietKettleWasHere · 19/03/2017 18:18

My brother and his wife had a baby a few days ago. It's my parents' first grandchild, my first time as an Auntie. First chance I've had to get to see my new nephew was today so I got the train up (live 200 or so miles away)

My mum and I do not get on, I tend to keep my distance, so I wasn't really thrilled to see her car parked outside their house when I got there. In fact my brother's wife's parents were there aswell, as were her siblings, and my stepdad, it was an unofficial wet-the-baby's head thing that I had known nothing about. Anyway I was really excited to meet my new nephew- my brother's was holding him and he was awake so she asked me if I'd like a cuddle. As she went to pass him to me my mum says in front of everybody 'oh for God's sake be careful, don't know if this is a good idea, you've always been cack-handed (??) and clumsy, don't drop him!!' Then proceeded to make comments such as 'Does it feel weird to you holding a little baby, you probably don't feel anything do you, never expressed any interest in babies have you' and when he made a tiny grizzle said 'oh you better give him back, he's probably sensed you don't like babies!'.

I sort of laughed it off. Really awkwardly. But she wouldn't stop. i'd bought him a little baby romper suit thing but got that wrong aswell because I'd bought the 3-6 months and not the 0-3 (didn't I know he was a newborn??) when my brother asked if I'd like to hold him again she piped up that I was probably only just 'recovering' from having to hold an actual live baby the first time.

She always makes me feel like shit anyway and I can't do anything right Sad I ended up leaving early and drinking a couple of gin and tonic at the station and mooching about as I had an advance ticket that I couldn't use for a couple of hours. My mum said I was 'stropping' off as I couldn't take a joke. Wanted a nice pic of me holding the baby but I just look awkward and nervous.

FWIW I do like babies. DP and I have discussed having our own in the next couple of years. He knows what my mum is like and tried to persuade me not to go up there without him for support but he was working today and I got too excited and I thought my mum would be nice for once since it was a happy event. Stupid of me. I should have stood up for myself and I'm kicking myself now but I didn't want to cause a scene. She has MAJOR form for making me feel like shit but can't she just leave me be just once? Unless I can see my brother and his wife and the baby away from her I don't think I'll bother going up there for a while.

Thinking about it she's probably driving them nuts to by being 'on hand'. She only lives down the road and doesn't work so is apparently there every single day.

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CarrieBradshaw85 · 27/03/2017 19:11

I always buy 3-6 months..well I did for when my nieces and nephews were newborn...your mum sounds awul :(

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 27/03/2017 19:03

We eloped to ensure the toxic ones could not attend mess it up This meant the nice ones couldn't come either. They weren't that bothered. They understood the situation. And let's face it weddings aren't that great for the guests. We all grin and bear it.

If some were invited and some weren't, that would definitely have been a problem. Inviting no-one was perfect. Everyone happy, even the toxic ones who had a fantastic thing to whine about.

It has proved to be awfully useful since. When DM tells people she wasn't invited to my wedding, you see people twigging that maybe she's the bad guy not me and maybe I'm sensible.

She always outs herself as totally self obsessed with people before terribly long anyway. She can't help it.

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ohfourfoxache · 27/03/2017 17:17

Well done. I'm so glad you avoided her calls - absolutely brilliant Thanks

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HarrietKettleWasHere · 27/03/2017 17:14

ItalianGreyhound not altogether sure yet...it is really important to me to get married in my home city though as my grandparents are there. They don't travel far these days and I'd be gutted if they weren't there.

I guess I just...don't tell her anything in the run up to the day apart from the bare minimum? I think it'd be ok if she couldn't 'get' to me while I was getting ready or anything IYSWIM.

I don't have any intention of living anywhere near her when we (if we are lucky enough of course) have our own baby. Although she would probably just announce she was visiting. Will have to practice being assertive around that. Definitely going to read up on Grey Rock!

Fallout yesterday wasn't too bad. I stayed away from social media. I think she tried to call me though probably to tell me how sad and unloved she felt, but I didn't recognise the number. She likes to block the number to catch me out and trick me into answering and there were several missed calls from an 'unknown' number while we were out walking.

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hellsbellsmelons · 27/03/2017 08:33

I hope the fallout wasn't too bad for you.
But ignore it if she starts kicking off.
Hope your Sunday was lovely - it sounds perfect!

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Italiangreyhound · 27/03/2017 01:03

Harriet, do you have a plan going forward how you are going to get your wedding, when you have one, your way. And how you are going to have your baby, when you have one, without your mum spoiling it?

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fascicle · 25/03/2017 10:49

OP, it sounds like your mother is entirely lacking in motherly qualities. It also sounds as though you have very little in common with her. Her behaviour is no reflection on you. I hope you are able to distance yourself from her unkind behaviour. (Nothing wrong with the outfit you bought - I would always buy something with growing room. With babies especially, you can't predict the rate at which they put on weight.)

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ohfourfoxache · 25/03/2017 09:58

Is there any way of avoiding the fallout? Turn your phone off, stay off social media, get dh to answer the house phone if you have one?

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HarrietKettleWasHere · 25/03/2017 09:20

Marmaduke Grin

Plans for Mother's Day.... I'll be doing my aerobic class in the morning, then DP and are going for a long walk and will hopefully end up at a pub (one of those not peddling Mother's Day lunches) for one or two before heading to the cinema. He doesn't do anything to celebrate his mum either- she left when he was a teenager and has only flitted in and out briefly since.

Trying to fill my time until the backlash is unleashed. In previous years I have done a lot for her. I surprised her by getting the train back and taking her out for lunch a couple of years ago. She made sure all her friends knew about it on Facebook but didn't really talk to me much throughout the meal. It really is clear that she doesn't enjoy my company in any way at all Sad

But this year and last I've only done a card. No gushy false sentiments. It won't go down well as they'll be nothing for her to brag about on Facebook.

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ozymandiusking · 24/03/2017 23:58

Next time she does this in public, ask her how long she is going to continue abusing you. And, that when you have your baby, she certainly won't be holding that one.

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MontyPythonsFlyingFuck · 24/03/2017 23:44

Harriet, I want to just give you a big hug. Congratulations on your nephew, they are a marvellous thing! And I'd suggest dropping your bro and SIL an email just saying how lovely it was to see them and meet young Marmaduke , and that you're looking forward to your next encounter. They will probably be insane in that new baby way atm, so just keep in contact. Being an aunt is lovely, so I truly hope you find a way to stop your mum interfering.

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Italiangreyhound · 24/03/2017 23:29

Harriet do you have mothers day plans?
Do you have a wider plan?

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gluteustothemaximus · 24/03/2017 19:31

Am fully expecting to receive plenty of flack for not baking a big fuss of her 'like other people's daughters' as she said last year

Oh my god, we must have the same mother.

This is insane. She treats you like dirt, and then expects to be treated like the queen for mother's day.

I always used to get 'x's daughter bought her a trip to ', or 'y's daughter got her (something very expensive again), how thoughtful of her, what a lovely daughter'

The one sure fire way to send a message to your mother, would be to completely ignore mother's day. She does not deserve to be recognised, or celebrated.

Angry on your behalf. I regrettably spent a small fortune on my own mother, but it was never good enough.

Now mother's day is all about me me me, and I love it Grin

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Catherinebee85 · 24/03/2017 17:04

Why must you bother with mothers day? She's a horrible bully and you don't owe her anything. You would be better off just stepping away. Tell her you'll treat her with respect when she does the same to you.

She's insulting and a bully and no-one deserves that. Least of all from their own mother. Her behaviour is not a reflection on you as a person, please remember that. Her behaviour is due to her deep seated issues, not you!x

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BerylStreep · 24/03/2017 16:55

I honestly wouldn't even bother with Mothers Day. Why go through the motions with someone who clearly doesn't like you?

I'm also Shock that she would even make demands as to the level of mothers day effort you make.

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jeaux90 · 24/03/2017 08:11

OP she sounds vile.

If it was me next time she says anything shitty to you I would look her straight in the eye and calmly say "I am bored of your bullying" and leave.

Xxx

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HarrietKettleWasHere · 24/03/2017 08:03

Ugh I mean 'next'... excuse all the other typos Blush

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HarrietKettleWasHere · 24/03/2017 08:02

Thank so much everyone and I am going to try and channel that definitely GoodDayToYou. It sounds silly but I've signed up for fitness classes at the gym and am hoping that this will just make me feel a bit more generally positive abs have something to focus on. I actually did try and rach out to a self-referral NHS thing for talk-therapy but they kept pushing group CBT sessions and I just don't think that's for me.

Now for the heck challenge...getting through Mother's Day! Am fully expecting to receive plenty of flack for not baking a big fuss of her 'like other people's daughters' as she said last year!

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Italiangreyhound · 24/03/2017 01:34

OP I really think GoodDayToYou has great advice.

"Make it clear that you won't tolerate anything less than respectful communication.

But mostly, I would recommend that you focus on building your own inner store of strength, peace and happiness. From there, I think it becomes easier to deal with any barbs."

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GoodDayToYou · 23/03/2017 16:10

OP, I can certainly empathise with you and think you sound lovely. I've been in some very similar situations. I'm really pleased that you can see how unhealthy your mum's behaviour is. She must be very unhappy to treat you like that.

I would def suggest limiting contact and reading up on 'grey rock' responses and narcissism generally. (Whether she is one or not, I've found this helpful.)

I have also found it helpful to imagine that the person is doing a weird dance. I can just watch it. Maybe look a bit confused. Tell myself it's just them doing that weird dance they do - nothing to do with me at all.

You could also look at your phone settings, see if you can make it so your mum's calls go straight to voicemail. That way, you can play them, or not, when it suits you, rather than being caught off guard.

Another idea: You could tell/text her explicitly that, if she keeps criticising you and communicating with you in a disrespectful manner, you will block her calls. If she ever brings this up, just repeat the same thing. Be really boring and factual about this. Make it clear that you won't tolerate anything less than respectful communication.

But mostly, I would recommend that you focus on building your own inner store of strength, peace and happiness. From there, I think it becomes easier to deal with any barbs.

Good luck with it all! Flowers

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BerylStreep · 22/03/2017 21:09

I agree that NC is probably the best way to go, but if you can't achieve full NC, I wonder what would happen if you tried turning her nasty comments round with pity and sympathy?

For example, if she makes several digs at you in front of people, you could look at her sympathetically and say 'Mum, I really wish you could be happier within yourself.'

She would most likely bum and bluster, and deny she had a problem, but you could keep it up 'Mum, you just always seem so negative and unhappy. It must be so hard.'

It would certainly take the wind out of her sails by trying to portray you as sulky and stroppy.

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gluteustothemaximus · 22/03/2017 18:28

No one ever seems to stand up to these people.

It's always 'you know what she's like' followed by roll eyes.

My brothers never stood up for me. My father was just as much responsible as she was.

If you confront them, life gets worse. They HATE to be challenged.

They can't be argued with, reasoned with, or changed.

It's best just to leave. Easier said than done of course. But, it is best just to leave. These people lack the basic emotion of empathy. So highlighting how much they've hurt you, won't do diddly squat, except actually make them happier.

Sad but true

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rollonthesummer · 22/03/2017 07:17

Did no one else react to her saying all these horrible things?!

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carbonate · 22/03/2017 07:14

Also this book will really help with the conversations you have about the situation in your head and with her. It's "'Toxic Parents' by Susan Forward", I think exxerpts have been posted on Stately homes (see post above) in January 2010. It'll give you a voice and allow you to put her behaviour front and centre in front of her without you turning into a screaming banshee (I wouldn't blame you at all!). Flowers

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Nellyphants · 22/03/2017 06:58

Re her message that you have a chip on your shoulder, what works for me with spiteful comments like this is ....'you're probably right'. It takes the wind out of their sails

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