To be annoyed at 'Think Bike' posters and other ads telling drivers to be considerate to motorcyclists ??

[Tinkerbell7373]

Every time I see one of these posters or adverts on TV it really irritates me in fact totally pisses me off
We are continually told to look out for motorbikes etc - when motorbike riders are thee most reckless, dangerous, inconsiderate people on the roads !! They speed, weave in and out of traffic, cut in when they feel like it and generally think they can do whatever they like !!! How about posters and adverts aimed at them saying 'Think Car' or 'Don't ride like a dick and you won't have, or cause, so many accidents !'

[mum2Bomg]

Because you have an opinion on something that tho have no experience of, and zero desire to understand. It's not abusive. It's just really not that hard to understand.

When you have a six week old baby and your DH is late getting home on his bike, you don't get the same thoughts/imagines as if DH is driving home in his nice warm cosy car.

Especially as the last incident was a taxi driver parking on his foot and having no idea he was there.

[mum2Bomg]

And getting back in and 'straightening up his steering' whilst still on someone's foot, before reversing.

[Thinkingblonde]

I've been driving for 40 years and see shocking examples of bad driving, 90% of which is caused by car drivers.

My DH rode motorbikes for years, I rode pillion. The rider and pillion rider really are vulnerable, they are on two wheels, with no protective metal shell surrounding them like a car driver has. A dear friend of ours was killed last year riding his bike, a car in the opposite lane overtook another car and hit our friend head on. Died at the scene.
Another friend was T boned by a car pulling out of a junction, friend almost died, fractured pelvis, skull, both arms badly fractured and a ruptured spleen. The car driver said he didn't see him. He didn't see him because he didn't look.

[mum2Bomg]

As you requested, YABU.

[mum2Bomg]

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[ExplodedCloud]

Yes YABU.
I spent a lot of time on bikes in my younger years. You learn a lot about the vulnerability of your body and the ability of car drivers to ignore anything non car shaped.
I still do the life saver check over my shoulder in a car. I still assume every driver is going to do something stupid.
If everyone had to ride a motorbike for a year before driving a car, it would teach people a lot. Too late for that.

[Solo]

Another YABU from me! Biker too and drive a car. I always scan the road for bikes (and other vehicles) when I'm about to/pulling out of junctions. I do this both on 2 wheels and 4. I also always give a horse and rider a quiet, high gear wide berth because regardless of which vehicle I'm in control of, I really don't want to spook a horse and have it collide with me!

[Peanutandphoenix]

You are being massively unreasonable someone in a car is more protected than someone on a bike/motorbike I know someone who rides a motorbike and got hit by a careless driver he went straight over the bonnet of the car and fractured his spine he was very lucky not to be paralysed his bike was a right off thank God he wasn't. The posters and stickers are aimed at stupid careless drivers who don't think to look out for vulnerable people on bikes and motorbikes.

[Tinkerbell7373]

Mum2 - thanks but I know what ignorant means.

So becasie your OH rides a motorbike that qualifies you to tell me I'm ignorant about ironing bikes. Grow up. I know riding a bike is dangerous - that wasn't the question. The AIBU was a it being annoyed at constantly being reminded to look out for cyclists. It's obvious you look out for them when driving a car. I just have a problem with the ones that ride like maniacs, not being reminded to be more aware of the cars they are putting in danger too. But as I am now informed - they are during their CBT training. And that's it. Never reminded again. Unlike car drivers. Constantly reminded. That was all I was asking.

[Tinkerbell7373]

*riding

[CatThiefKeith]

If car drivers could 'think bike' there would no need for anyone to iron them OP!

[Solo]

Great post NoBetterName

[mum2Bomg]

I'm sorry but this is so clear that it's poring. I'm hoping you're just uninformed and that the people who have posted will help you to understand better.

[CatThiefKeith]

Fwiw, nobody passes their CBT and promptly forgets the lifesaver... there aren't many bikers who haven't had a stark reminder about the damage a car can do.

Most have us have suffered a deep loss, and many have suffered several.

[SpeakNoWords]

You might think it's obvious but enough people don't do it, so they cause accidents. Really I don't get why it annoys you. Whenever I see those adverts/posters I just think "hmm, yes, good point" and mull a bit about whether I do actually check enough. It's not like it's bad advice!

[NerrSnerr]

OP please read nobettername's post again. They have explained that 'thinking car' is not just taught in the CBT. If you're going to start a thread at least be bothered to read the replies.

[LuisCarol]

"The AIBU was a it being annoyed at constantly being reminded to look out for cyclists. It's obvious you look out for them when driving a car. "

It should be obvious, but isn't. Not because car drivers are evil, but because of how our brains work.

"I just have a problem with the ones that ride like maniacs, not being reminded to be more aware of the cars they are putting in danger too."

The ones that "ride like maniacs" are the ones that have got your attention, (you think it's 90% of them) and that's the point. It's not 90%, you're just not seeing the other ones who aren't riding like maniacs.

[Tinkerbell7373]

Nerr - I did read it. Thanks 😜

[Solo]

Bike riding isn't dangerous really; yes you have got weather to consider, you have uneven road surfaces, all kinds of rubbish in the road to avoid but on the whole, it's safe riding a bike. It's car, lorry and van drivers that usually make biking dangerous. I've been riding for 36 years and can give you many examples of dangerous car drivers who don't look once let alone twice to check.

[5OBalesofHay]

Op you are not so much unreasonable as tedious. Why not just be considerate and welcoming of anything that helps?

[Tinkerbell7373]

And nobettername - excellent post - much more sensible than some others. Has made me understand the whole 'think bike' thing better and why the constant ads.

[Tinkerbell7373]

Why there are the constant ads I meant.

[Solo]

I also think that you'll find that the majority of cars that sport those stickers are either bikers (at other times) or their partners are. I must get one actually!

[SortAllTheThings]

If you need that level of explanation for you to see why you need to 'think bike' then you shouldn't be on the road, OP.


You're being a massive trolling bell piece

Hth

[Graphista]

Yabvu

I'm not a motorcyclist never been on one but I have a driving licence and used to cycle a lot.

My dad used to have a motorbike and my brother is a motorcyclist and I have several friends that are too and like a pp a few of them are emergency service motorcyclists too. They are constantly experiencing careless/dangerous drivers who don't look before moving from parked/turning/entering junctions and roundabouts, are not seen despite the fucking luminous livery and clothing!

As a cyclist I nearly got wiped out I don't know how many times when I was cycling perfectly legally and safely because many car drivers just don't look properly, or don't realise as a cyclist you need more space than a hands width from pedal to their vehicle! Many were ignorant of basic physics apparently (ie if they're in a big fuck off truck and pass too closely the down draft is likely to send me flying ).

Personally I think the driving test is too focussed on technical ability and not enough on safety and consideration of other road users.

I also agree there's too many drivers on the roads who shouldn't be because there isn't a decent system for removing them (older drivers who are too slow both in speed and response, people with poor eyesight who haven't got or won't wear glasses, people driving on meds that they shouldn't be, people who've had strokes etc and continue to drive even though they've been told not to) but that's probably a whole other thread.