To be puzzled dentist put in amalgam filling!

[Sweetpotatoaddict]

Went to dentist today for replacement of a filling, scale and polish. At last appointment got quote for a white crown for my first molar on the top, at cost of £400. Am nhs patient currently free as have baby. All fillings put in recently have been white, and private when required. After treatment today was rinsing mouth out and noticed spitting out amalgam....... I wrongly assumed that filling would be white, why on earth would I pay £400 for a white crown when the tooth in front has a giant silver filling in it .
Aibu to think that surely the dentist should have at least asked what I wanted?

[BikeRunSki]

Lol! I've got no wisdom teeth, but I have got a PhD!

[BikeRunSki]

Batfurger i didn't need any fillings until I vomited 20 times a day for 9 months. Brushing my teeth triggered the throwing up.... then I did it all again 3 years later. My teeth were awesome until I had children, now they're made of cheese.

[lljkk]

I guess my dentist was just lying to me.
Odd, I really liked her.
I guess gum disease has nothing to do with hygiene after all. The dentist always tuts a lot at DH like it's his own fault. But then we know she's crap because she believes in weak enamel.

[DaviesMum]

Get rid of that amalgam shit, pronto. I took an allergic reaction to them and whilst that is admittedly rare, the punch biopsy of my tongue was excruciating!

[bunnylove99]

Batfurger. You are really ignorant.
OP, as others have posted, I believe NHS only do white filling in front 4 teeth. I had this too and was upset. Thought the horrible metal fillings looked awful. I think dentists don't bother asking if you wish an upgrade from NHS, when they should.

[user1471556443]

Dentist here. Definitely the majority of decay IS preventable and pregnancy is definitely not going to result in someone being more likely to develop decay.
Pregnancy DOES predispose to gum problems but not to decay.
Often, 'weak enamel ' is used as excuses for poor oral hygiene / high sugar consumption resulting in decay

[Dontstepinthecowpat]

We are probably all just the same to Batfurger, uneducated idiots with decayed teeth and no PHD

-disclaimer- my pearly whites are filing free and I must be extra clever as I even have all my wisdom teeth

[Willyoujustbequiet]

Ignore Batfurger guys, she's just flagging up her own ignorance.

[wherethemildthingsare]

I think the mineralisation comment was directed at me, given my quotes talked about it.

I think batfurger has an alternative definition of mineralisation to everyone else, so she doesn't have to admit she's being fucking rude and ignorant.

Her link just says decay is 'often' preventable. OFTEN. But not always. And whatever, she was bloody rude to OP.

[Dontstepinthecowpat]

I'm sorry was that addressed to me? I mentioned the sealants placed there to prevent decay - on the advice of a dentist who questioned what had happened during pregnancy after examining his teeth. I have not mentioned mineralisation much less misunderstood it. To clarify, my DS has received no other dental treatment and has no signs of decay.

Hey, we can only work with the advice of the HCPs that we deal with in RL, not the advice of someone on the internet with a PHD from the University of I'm a Baw Heid.

[lljkk]

DH & I are both over 40 & have similar habits.
DH goes to the dentist once every 5 yrs.
They always say he has signs of gum disease, book into hygienist.
One appt with hygienist, he's all sorted. Back again 5 yrs later.
DH has not a single cavity.

I go every 6 months & usually hygienist, too. I have at least 20 fillings. Dentist says my gums are great & hygiene is fine. The problem is my enamel is horribly soft & DH's enamel is perfect amazing.

[Mumzypopz]

Batfurger..I really think you are missing the point. You were rude. You are trying to cover up your rudeness with strange science philosophies that don't exist. You do not know her medical position. Not all cavities are caused by bad management of teeth. It is wrong to presume so. Ask a dentist next time you are there, and try not to be shocked when you get a cavity.

[wherethemildthingsare]

Batfurger- I have detailed knowledge.

You're being offensive. It's none of your business why OP has caries.

Unless your first post on a cancer thread is 'Why do you have cancer?'

Most cancers have a preventable component. It's call the two hit hypothesis. But we don't go getting arsey when people fail to be perfect there.

[wherethemildthingsare]

No evidence amalgam is dangerous in pregnancy: www.bda.org/dentists/policy-campaigns/public-health-science/fact-files/Documents/amalgam_fact_file.pdf

'Lose a tooth for every pregnancy' is a myth. Pregnancy doesn't damage your teeth by itself. But bad dentition and/or gum disease can cause growth restriction or prematurity, or perpetuate problems to the next generation. Therefore, it makes good sense to treat mothers for free to try and improve the health of the next generation.

[KookSpook]

[Batfurger]

You are misunderstanding what mineralisation means. I shan't labour the point though. You're clearly passionate about your lack of detailed knowledge. (Except where you accept that you've prevented disease by having the sealants placed... interesting. If it's not preventable that is...)

I shall concede that every MNer who has a dental problem is at entirely no fault and it's either congenital, medical or because their baby stole the calcium from their teeth

Other people not on MN (the 99%) have preventable problems.

Suit you all?

[wherethemildthingsare]

www.nhs.uk/Livewell/dentalhealth/Pages/Dentaltreatments.aspx

'Amalgam and white fillings are available on the NHS (band 2) and cost £53.90 per course of treatment.'

However, there are risk/benefits to either, and so amalgam could be better. But those benefits should have been discussed with you before the filling.

[BikeRunSki]

You only get white fillings on NHS when you are actually pregnant, as amalgam is toxic to unborn babies.

[Mumzypopz]

Batfurger..Didn't say never, you did. You indicated that she would not have to have a filling if she had looked after her teeth. You also said the NHS say 99% of fillings can be avoided. Not true. That's very short-sighted. You know nothing of her medical history or whether she has looked after her teeth or not. To say that to someone is just rude and ignorant.

[GinAndSonic]

Well, not true strictly, but adult teeth DO begin to develop in utero, from aroubd 20 weeks if I recall correctly.
My adult teeth erupted with no enamel for reasons no-one was quite sure of and had to be artificially enamelled. I have shite teeth, and I look after them well. Some peoole have gotten unlucky with genes / development etc.

[Dontstepinthecowpat]

Batfurger you are amazingly ignorant. When DS (age 9) visited our new dentist last she asked if I had been ill during pregnancy. I was very ill in third trimester and spent six weeks in hospital, many of these on antibiotics IV and oral. She asked as it showed in his teeth and he has now had seals put in place to prevent decay. He has no filings/or extractions and hopefully will stay that way but the potential for damage is there.

He was also failure to thrive due to the antibiotics so lots can happen in utero that has an effect after birth.

[wherethemildthingsare]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1127429/

'Tooth development begins in the fetus, at about 28 days in utero. Indeed, all the primary and some of the permanent dentition start to develop in the fetus. Mineralisation of the primary dentition begins at about 14 weeks in utero, and all primary teeth are mineralising by birth. The permanent incisors and first molars begin to mineralise at or close to the time of birth, while the other permanent teeth start to mineralise later. Tooth eruption occurs after formation and mineralisation of the crown are largely complete but before the roots are fully formed.'

www.7daydental.com/babys-teeth-during-pregnancy

'1. Primary (baby) teeth start to form between the sixth and eighth week of prenatal development, and permanent teeth begin to form in the twentieth week.'

So, unless you were precocious enough to be responsible for your own nutrition health and dental care from the 20th week of your own pregnancy, then you can fuck off judging OP.

And there are many other illnesses and treatments that can cause tooth problems after eruption.

Yes, many caries are preventable. But for those of us working with shit materials, the idea that we could prevent poor dentition by just brushing more is actually really offensive.

My teeth were wrecked by a significant medical condition. I am not ashamed to have sought dental work to make them as good as they now can be. Every dentist comments on my good hygiene. There was nothing I could do!

[PossumInAPearTree]

It would have been about £400 for a white crown and I couldn't afford it.

[GinAndSonic]

Batfurger all the teeth including permanent adult teeth develop in utero. All your teeth are in your head waiting their turn when you are born. Did you think they just appeared from nowhere? RETHINK! What's your excuse?!

[PossumInAPearTree]

Being constantly sick for nine months of pregnancy will bugger your teeth up.

OP, cheer yourself up by telling yourself almagam fillings are meant to be stronger. I recently had a silver metal crown on my first molar, was still expensive in NHS but if I'd had white