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To think that 'obligated' is not a proper word?

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 25/05/2016 23:43

It should be obliged, surely?

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ElectroStallion · 26/05/2016 10:06

Obligated is v much a separate word!
Use the Google ngram viewer if you want to see how the two have been used over the last 500 years, v interesting.
Peaks in 1590s, 1670s, 1740s and 1820sGrin (though moreso in us English)
I love ngram!

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 09:57

No, it's from oblige. Like obliged is. You're obliged to go to Mass. There is no need to invent a new word for this!

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Homebird8 · 26/05/2016 00:22

I'm not RC but I've heard Catholic friends talking about Holy Days of Obligation. Isn't that from obligated and has a hint of necessity rather than favour?

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:13

But that sentence works just as well better with 'obliged'.

We need Miss Annersley to adjudicate.

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Orwellschild · 26/05/2016 00:13

Halo Elisaveta glad to be of service, your Royal Highness!

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:12

Thank you Bagel. .

Online dictionary never helps, Ego Grin.

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Egosumquisum · 26/05/2016 00:12

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:10

Sorry Blush

(I wonder what did happen to Cogito, she gave me very good advice once.)

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BagelGoesWalking · 26/05/2016 00:09

Elisaveta of Belasornia what a flashback to my childhood! Wonderful username Grin

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Egosumquisum · 26/05/2016 00:09

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AYD2MITalkTalk · 26/05/2016 00:08

I've got semantic satiation.

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Egosumquisum · 26/05/2016 00:07

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:06

Sorry Ego, Latin fail Blush. You're not CogitoErgoSum. You're Gloria Gaynor.

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PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 26/05/2016 00:05

I'm just waiting for "medalling" when we get to Rio...

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quencher · 26/05/2016 00:05

I am obliged to you, this sounds wrong

If you oblige, you don't have to follow through. It can be a promise. Am nice so I will do this for you.

Obligated. Part of your job. Part of what your meant to do. As someone mentioned up thread, in your contract you have these obligations that you will have to adhere to.

Am sure an English teacher will come round.

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Egosumquisum · 26/05/2016 00:04

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:04

It doesn't, Descartes, because the meaning is The Same!!!

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:02

Ooh yes Madam. Also 'actioning', 'evidencing' and especially 'yellow carding'.

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Egosumquisum · 26/05/2016 00:01

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 26/05/2016 00:00

But that's being obliging, Quencher. Totally different. Feeling obligated and feeling obliged are the same thing, except the former is wrong American.

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MadamDeathstare · 25/05/2016 23:59

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quencher · 25/05/2016 23:58

Snuffle, that's what I thought. When you are obligated, you have the duty to to perform or follow through (for example a doctor is obligated to treat a patient or has the obligation to treat a patient). With oblige, it's out of goodwill. You can do it if you want to. For example, you can give to the homeless if you want to. It's not an obligation but you can be obliged to do so because it's charitable.

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EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 25/05/2016 23:57

I am obliged to you, OrwellsChild.

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Orwellschild · 25/05/2016 23:55

Is a word. Albeit a reasonably recent one, fundamentally the meanings of both (obliged etc) are the same, however obligated is used more to denote necessity due to legal / moral / procedural processes etc.

Love the username, Op!

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WhereYouLeftIt · 25/05/2016 23:53

Is it an American import? I'm sure I've seen it in old books (Dickens, Austen or some such). And it has a subtly different meaning to 'obliged' to me too. More formal. Suggestive of contracts, with a whiff of reluctance. Whereas 'obliged' is more personal somehow, friendlier.

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