How long is too long to have parents visiting? AIBU?

[EachToHerOwn]

I had an operation yesterday which is possibly why I'm awake since 2am and now stressing about this....!
DM&D live a couple of hours away and are planning to visit next weekend for 4 days and nights. They've booked into a local B&B as my op means we can't give them our bed and sleep on roll mats in DD1's room, which is what we'd usually do - so that's ok. But now I'm concerned about the length of visit anyway - what am I going to do with them for 4 days and evenings when they'll be at ours?
They are elderly, DM is particularly frail, so they can't really help with household chores or looking after DDs. I can't drive or lift anything heavy so DH will be coping with school/nursery pickups, household stuff, cooking etc and I'm concerned about adding to all that for him.
Usually if DM&D visit it would be for 2 nights max (same for us visiting them) and then we've pretty much had our fill (on both sides!) - they don't talk much (Mum barely at all), so we'll have exhausted conversation after an hour or two!
I'm struggling to know how to broach this with them without hurting their feelings but the thought of 4 days of their silent presence is stressing me out and taking post-op meds mean I can't drink through it! Should I just suck it up?

[NattyTile]

How's it going?

[TwistInMySobriety]

My ILs come from abroad for two months every year. Without checking the dates with us before booking their flights usually .

[MatildaTheCat]

Search your house for little jobs they can do for you. Suggest regular small outings in for a coffee and a walk ( you only if well enough). My dad will take a hoovering request very seriously. .

Retire to your room for restorative naps. Find movies that you can all enjoy ( possibly even DC). Let them help in the kitchen and don't try to do too much.

My parents are getting elderly and now want to come for longer than before,me think the journey is tiring and they are happy with a change of scene. After surgery they want to help so do let them but have a good think about how. The garden was a good project. Ironing? Bits of shopping? Bake a cake?

[EachToHerOwn]

So, their ETA on Sunday was 3pm and they arrived at midday ("we thought we'd set off early" what 5 hours for a 2 hour journey?!!). We were at church and then decided on the off chance to get some lunch out on the way home, so didn't even know they were around until we got a phone call! Oh how we fumed laughed!

artandco that's a good idea about the sewing project, will try that. It's not been too bad so far and dad has weeded and sorted the garden for us. They've gone out together today, so a bit of a breather for us all.

[Artandco]

I would set them up with stuff for the kids. As you say they are good with the them just hopeless at what to do

Ask for dm to help 5 year old with first sewing project. A basic felt puppet or something. Say how good she is at sewing child 1 would love to learn from her. That's 1hr gone

Then I would just say oh x loves drawing/ puzzles, would you mind helping them at the table a little while

Etc etc.

Yes you still need to suggest things but that means they are doing something with them.

How frail are they both? Could they cope with 2 year old if he was in a pram? Just taking him for a walk each day locally. Or maybe your dad could walk him on reins to get paper etc if he's usually a good enough walker

They can also do things to help like bathing kids. At 5 and 2. If you say run the bath not too deep and have a step at side they can both climb in and out along with your dad holding their hands rather than full lifting out and then just need watching.

Actually if you don't have def get a non slip step now and get both practicing climbing in and out bath with just you hand for help so after surgery you aren't lifting 2 1/2 year old so much.

Same with other things, like I would take youngest out of cot if he's still in so you aren't lifting him in and out, either side off or mattress on floor for now. Add stair gate to bedroom door if needed. Get him climbing in and pram and car seat with just hand for help rather than full lifting. Move water beakers/ plates/ snacks lower down in kitchen also or out on table so both can get own snacks easier and water etc so you aren't up and down. Start now so they have practice beforehand.

[HooseRice]

My DBro and DSIL currently have my not so DM and her current bloke latest in a long long line for six weeks as they stay abroad. They have two pre school children.

My DSIL deserves a medal or at least copious amounts of alcohol.

[EachToHerOwn]

AnotherTimeMaybe - I didn't invite them, they said they'd like to come visit after my op, I said that'd be ok thinking it would be a couple of nights as usual and assumed that they'd check dates with me. DM then texted to tell me they'd booked 4 nights at the B&B 5days after my op and was that ok? I should have replied with "ffs no" "4 nights, are you sure?".
Anyway, in the clear light of day and with your great suggestions it all seems more do-able.
JalopyJane - good idea, I'll gently suggest they do two shorter visits - though Dad not keen on driving any more so that might be one of the reasons for them booking longer.
Dad can spend all day reading newspapers and doing the crosswords and will walk down into the village for it so he's not really the problem. Mum has no hobbies so just sits there in silence watching what everyone else does! But she used to sew a lot and I want to do some sewing in my recuperation time, so I can get her involved in that.
The DCs are 5 and 2.5 so DD1 will be at school for 3 of the 4 days, and DD2 will be at nursery for 2 of the days. DM&D are rubbish with kids though, they love them dearly, but sadly don't have a clue how to interact and play with them. Strange but true.
At least one of the days I'll suggest they go off and visit somewhere together.
Food- Takeaways definitely an option. Cooking big casserole, shepherds pie, bolognaise stuff that is easy to do however many to feed. And they mentioned the pub in the village, so perhaps they'll treat us one night! For lunches, well just provide bread/rolls and fillings so that everyone can make their own.
And generally, I'm just going to get on with whatever I feel like doing and let them just be part of the household without throttling them getting stressed out. The weird thing is, if it was my MIL visiting, I'd have no worries at all as she's chatty, entertaining, knits, looks at her iPad, and is brilliant with the kids!

[Oysterbabe]

I have a 2 night policy with parents. Can you go out for dinner one of the nights?

[NattyTile]

Jigsaw puzzle? Depending on age of children, but you can get a hideaway mat for them during the day if necessary. Surprisingly absorbing and addictive (just try to get one which isn't all sea and sky).

[shovetheholly]

tingon- people like you were so kind to me! It really, really made a difference. Very unmumsnetty hugs for you and everyone else who was there for me! (OP, if you do go ahead, I do recommend making a thread on here so we can all support you!!)

[Schwabischeweihnachtskanne]

Everyone is different and it depends, its a how long is a piece of string question really...

Staying in a B&B does help.

My parents now always stay in a hotel (the official reason is because they need to be on the same floor as a bathroom - our house is multilevel and the only bedrooms on the same floor as bathrooms are equipped with mid sleepers or toddler beds which there is no way on earth my parents could get in or out of even if we did want to kick two kids out of their bedrooms for them each to take over a mid sleeper...)

I live a thousand miles from my parents and they stay about a week when they visit - when they stay in a hotel it is OK, although finding things to do is a challenge as neither can walk far, my mum struggles with stairs, and my dad needs to be able to get to a toilet frequently... it does rule out most things that appeal to small children except for things that are dull to my parents (involves them sitting about watching the kids do stuff). I do find them sitting about my living room odd as I feel I am supposed to entertain them, and at home the kids don't want to sit and chat politely or be read to by my mum, they want to go out and play with their friends, which is what they normally do on a home day... Still a week is manageable with parents sleeping elsewhere and me able to drive.

My mum came to stay on her own with us in our house for 2 weeks after I'd had an operation once - a c-section. She came to help but she mainly tried to monopolise the baby whilst not lifting a finger with toddler nor anything household, criticising my friends, complaining about the shower, comparing everything negatively to her home, talking loudly and at length about herself in English to people who speak only rusty school English from 20 years ago (I live abroad) and trying to tell me what I should be doing (telling me I should be getting on with washing floors a week after a c-section was a highlight, as was buying and hanging a wall mirror in the room she was sleeping in) while I had her there "to hold the baby" and demanding I drive her to the shops to buy herself clothes as she felt she hadn't packed for the weather - I wished she wasn't there by day 2 and nearly murdered her on day 3, and I still feel angry about those two weeks and struggle with her more than I did before that stay.

I think them being in your house will be difficult by the sound of it, but 4 days should be about survivable. Not being able to drive or get about much will make it very claustrophobic...

[tingon]

I remember your thread shove, it's stayed with me!

[maybebabybee]

How long is a piece of string? It depends on many factors including how well you get on etc etc. I could spend a week with my DM easily but my DF does my head in after an hour!!

[shovetheholly]

I think it's not the length of visit but the timing in conjunction with your surgery that's the problem. I'd just postpone the visit until you're feeling a bit more up to it.

I speak as someone who did the opposite and it was a disaster. I travelled 5 hours after gynae surgery to spend Xmas with the inlaws. It was extremely painful. They all then went out and left me by myself in a cold house with no heating on Christmas day and I felt extremely sorry for myself. I ended up bursting into tears on my best friend when she rang to wish me merry Christmas, which I do not imagine made her day either. It was, in fact, my first post on Mumsnet under this username - hence the Christmas reference.

Get well first, THEN have them to visit!

[slebmum1]

My fil stays with is two weeks at a time, four times a year. He lives in USA though. We love having him.

Four days is nothing but perhaps not particularly helpful if you are recovering from an op.

[theycallmemellojello]

I think if they've booked into a bnb then they are probably sensitive to not wanting to increase the workload. Why can't you just carry on with life as you otherwise would? If they're quiet people they won't expect or want constant conversation.

[louisejxxx]

4 days is about right if travelling a long distance I'd say..any less and the travelling turns in to the bulk of the trip.

[bimbobaggins]

A long lunch is enough for me.

[Blu]

Do they read the paper?
Can they pop to the shops for it?
If not, arrange to get their favourite paper delivered while they stay. My Dad can read the paper all morning.

Does your Mum knit? Beg her to knit something you would love.

Have crossword and Soduko and puzzle books on the table (if they ever do that stuff)

Go through packets of old family photos with them or hook your computer up to the TV and look at how pics, pics of the children.

Embrace daytime TV , afternoon films. Listen to the play on Women's Hour R4, or whatever it is called.

What do they normally do with themselves during the day?

Is there any kind of outing they could manage / would enjoy, with a taxi?

Do they see this visit as coming to help, coming to visit you in your convalescence, or coming for a mini-break?

[annandale]

4 days is actually long enough to get comfortable. Have a cup of tea and a chat when they arrive and then get on with your lives. Hand them veg to chop for dinner, play with dc and get them to make a picture 'for dm', etc. Inform them that you're off to the garden/shop/whatever, do they want to come or will they stay at home? My dm and I specialise in reading the paper in the same room, occasional comment to each other.

[jalopyjane]

4 days would be fine for me but they're not frail or slient so it's not really the same! Could you suggest them coming for 2 nights now and 2 nights in say a month's time when you're feeling more up to visitors?

[Jenijena]

Might they want to go back to the b&b in the evening? In the warmer months my in laws stay in their caravan, and usually go after bath/bedtime...

[gooseberryroolz]

How long is right for YOU?

[ICJump]

Mil spent weeks with us. And will again shortly. We discovered a mural love of a box set. It helped