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Why am I so utterly self destructive?

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furryblanket · 03/01/2016 02:14

New here, lurked for ages. No DC, no DP (any more, after my most recent drunken outburst).

I've become aware that I will do anything and everything to try and ruin my life and I don't even do it consciously. Lately it's drink related but it hasn't always been; I just seem incapable of making sensible decisions.
I recently had a work night out and completely embarrassed myself (argument with a loved colleagues wife) and then proceeded to go back to the hotel room and kick aforementioned exDP out of the hotel room, leaving him to wait until early hours for a train home. I don't remember any of these things happening.

The normal thing to do, in the Christmas break, would have been to take some time to myself and relax and recoup and stop feeling awful. Instead, I've spent it in a vicious cycle of drunk, horrifically anxious hangover, drunk etc etc. Now I'm shitting myself about going back to work and having to face up to my behaviour.

I've posted in AIBU for traffic. I need someone to either shout some sense into me or offer kind words. I've got an appointment booked with a counsellor but it's not until the 11th. Just feel crap.

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GreenRug · 16/01/2016 07:03

Nice update OP. So you've got the meeting out of the way which is good! As for things never being the same again with you and the colleague, he needs to seriously get over himself. You won't always be in that job and I bet within 5 years you'll be struggling to remember his name.

Make sure you go to your appointment, it will do you the wonder of good. Be proud of yourself for having the self awareness to get help.

As for the drinking. I used to be you when I was 24. Far too much drinking, insulting people, rowing, making a show of myself generally. I'm passed that phase now but if I could advise myself then, I'd just steer clear of drinking with work people. When you have that self destructive streak, it never ends well, the night itself is bad enough with the behaviour but the self flagellation that follows it is twice worse! At that age my social circle centered around work so just curbing that would have curbed my drinking too (Ps, it didn't cos I didn't take my own advice and more than once was very close to be 'asked' to resign!).

You're young (not meant to be patronising) you've got so much ahead of you, don't be down on yourself, so many of us have been there.

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mathanxiety · 16/01/2016 06:23

You are very normal.

There are lots of people just like you out there.

And you are completely 'salvageable'. Don't be tempted to catastrophise.

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mathanxiety · 16/01/2016 06:22

Four days is good, Furry Cake.

Could you try another four days again some time?

Maybe next time get a plan together in advance about nutrition and hydration, so you'll be able to tell yourself you have healthy alternatives when you feel you could use a drink?

In time, maybe you could incorporate cutting the drinking way back into a general upgrade of eating and self care, with alcohol consumption just one component of it?

Interesting about the father figure bit. Is there any chance you went out of your way to sabotage the relationship? Are you angry on some level with your father?

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furryblanket · 12/01/2016 21:54

Oh and I'm 24, for those who wondered. No DC, on here because I'd prefer to spend my free time skimming mumsnet than instagram.

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furryblanket · 12/01/2016 21:53

Hello everyone and thank you for your support, I really appreciate it.

I've gone back to my lurking ways and avoided posting because I didn't want to let any of you down. My 'dry january' lasted a total of four days. I went back to work the same week that I decided and I felt AWFUL - so tired and more dehydrated than when I had been drinking. I know that it's all the crap getting out of my body but with everything else going on I couldn't handle it.
I've not been out since new year, though, and I don't plan to. If I do go out it certainly won't be with work.

I went to see my mum on Friday night (as she's one of the only people who I've properly told about the christmas party drama, other than you lot) and she agreed with what a couple of you said about my colleague dragging the drama on. This made me feel a lot better as by the time I ended up having the meeting (this Monday just gone), it'd been nearly three weeks since it happened. Had meeting, nearly cried but wasn't nearly as bad as I thought, I think wronged colleague felt the same and said that he's just annoyed because we'd become really close and now I've ballsed it up a bit. But he did say he thinks in time we'll be fine. I'm glad, he's a bit like the father figure I never had (which makes what happened all the more odd and embarrassing) but in a work context. My boss told me last week that he'd said the same thing to her but 'we'd never be the same again', so things have improved, at least. And he's speaking to me at work again now.

Sorry for the ramble, I just felt the need to update. Still not sure what to do with the drinking and my counselling appointment was cancelled this week but I have my induction next week. I need to leave work early to make it on time and I've still yet to tell my boss because I know telling her what kind of appointment it is will help me in the long run. I just wish I could be 'normal'.

Rambling again. And I've not even had a drink today. Anyway, thank you MN x

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ProfessorPreciseaBug · 09/01/2016 07:09

Fury,
How are you getting on?

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Marryoneorbecomeone · 07/01/2016 08:44
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knobblyknee · 07/01/2016 06:54

Your boss sounds amazing. Would it help you to carry round some sort of visual reminder of how scared you were of going under completely, and that if you screw up again you'll lose your job?
Something like a wristwatch or bracelet but with a picture or charm on it or something to act as a symbol?

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Marryoneorbecomeone · 07/01/2016 06:49

Come over to the DRY10 thread on in the relationships section of MN!

OP you are not alone in what you're doing, that awful cycle of drink, and the moment that you think you can't stop is when there's a big problem. This can get better!

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marly53 · 06/01/2016 23:44

Hi again furry! So glad you have made such positive steps already, you really should be proud of yourself. Seems like you have good support around you and that is vital.

Acknowledge that there will be great days and there'll be shit ones too! like there are for all of us but for you a crap day may (not definitely), but may make you feel like you want a drink and if that happens acknowledge it. Tell yourself you dont need nor truly want it, don't be afraid of it and start to think your going to let yourself and those around down because that would be the beginning of the drink cycle again. Drinking perhaps is your emotional crutch, your coping strategy but actually its not coping nor forgetting abt negativity, it will only ever make you feel worse, as I said in my first post, you are in control furry.

I also reiterate something else from my first post and that was that you seemed like a good person and you are, those around you obviously think so too - start believing this yourself, be kind to yourself always.

Re work, perhaps it is a formality your boss has to go through with this upcoming meeting or maybe not as obvs don't know where you work. One thing I would suggest is if you could take another trusted colleague in with you, that way you have someone there "on your side" and it may give you a bit of reassurance, just a suggestion.

Remember furry, at some stage all of us have made idiots out of ourselves/done something we maybe aren't that proud of and that's OK, its just being human!

I wish you all the luck in the world as you move forward. As my mum who suffered horrendous pain for years from arthritis and who died very suddenly at 53 while I was pregnant with my ds2 used to say, no matter what happens just get up and go on, also my motto in life though it's not always easy . Keep going furry, you will without doubt get to where you want to be Smile

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GreenRug · 06/01/2016 06:37

Op I agree with ops, you obviously have a drink problem and would be best served by starting to look into ways to give up.

However, please do not take out of proportion the colleague thing. Ok you don't say exactly what happened, but quite frankly this shit happens at work dos, it's not a nice reality and it's not nice being the one who did it, but as said upb thread, you're not the first and won't be the last. I don't like the way it sounds like this colleague is stringing this out. You apologised the day after and now you have to meet with him and your boss? What's it got to do with her? Talk about hauling you over the coals! I could be way off the mark here and I'm not trying to take focus from the fact you have other issues but this meeting should not be allowed to turn into a forum for your colleague to tell you how awful you are. Apologise again, then say you'd like to move on if it starts turning into a rerun of the nights events and recanting what you said/did.

Then, go and get help. Another child of an alcoholic here so yes I recognise the patterns too. Be nice to yourself, your behaviour in drink is not you, this lady on here, clearly bright, self aware, empathetic- that's you.

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Griffney · 06/01/2016 06:20

Youve been given a get out of jail free card by your boss. I recognise this pattern of doing awful things when drunk, self loathing, being 'forgiven', being on a sort of high and full of good intentions. If you don't give up drinking for good you will repeat your behaviour. Soon you'll get antsy and have just one drink... Obviously I'm projecting a bit here as this was my mothers pattern. She alienated everyone around her as she was a confrontational, angry drunk. She gave up drinking completely about 15 years ago and we have rebuilt our relationship.

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Griffney · 06/01/2016 06:13

Furry blanket I feel for you. I am the daughter of an alcoholic and I recognise the patterns here. There is no easy answer - you have to give up drinking today. Please ring AA.

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Monty27 · 06/01/2016 02:01

You do seem to be drinking more than you can handle. Most people have at some point in their lives/career. You need to get to grips with why you do it, work out when you do it, and avoid those situations. Particularly with work colleagues. I didn't see anywhere how old you are, I may have missed it if you said it, but maturity goes a long way. (not telling you off).

All the best, and just think twice if future.

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mathanxiety · 06/01/2016 01:49

Furry -- well done. Do take the baby steps. If it gets really hard, then do 'dry next ten minutes'.

The most any of us can do is live one day at a time, when you think about it.

There is no point beating yourself up abut the past or agonising about the future. You live today, here, now.

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awfullyproper · 06/01/2016 00:43

Furry, you're probably a lovely decent person and that is why people are showing you care and support. They can see you're a good person and care about you and want to be there for you despite what you may have done whilst drunk.
Good luck with your recovery.

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BastardGoDarkly · 06/01/2016 00:11

Oh furry I'm so glad.

You've taken real steps, and your exdp especially, is probably softened by that.

I really hope you keep it up, and the meeting on Friday goes OK !

I'm on a really supportive dry Jan thread if you fancy dropping in some time x

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Cleensheetsandbedding · 05/01/2016 23:52

Hi op sounds similar to my New Year's Eve. I don't really drink that often but when I do I go way over board.

I've admitted I've got a drinking problem and have promised myself no more. I can't cope with the depression and self hate afterwards - I'm still not right.

Good luck in moving forwards Flowers

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furryblanket · 05/01/2016 23:46

Thank you. And thank you to mathanxiety for the 'dry sunday/monday' suggestion. Baby steps

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TiredButFineODFOJ · 05/01/2016 23:29

Furry good for you.
I'm glad that people have been supportive, it's a nice surprise that when you're really at rock bottom and have pissed them right off, they can still help you.
Not drinking will be tough but you can do it. Keep accepting help with it, it's a lot to bear on your own. You will start feeling some benefits of not being hungover and ashamed (apart from the ongoing colleague shame attacks I suppose).
Plan some little treats- even daily ones. A nice bath, buy a big issue, bake a cake, get a colouring book.

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Mmmmcake123 · 05/01/2016 23:27

Keep going OP and we'll done!!

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furryblanket · 05/01/2016 23:11

update-

Thank you, everyone. I needed a kick up the arse, kind and less kind.

I haven't had a drink since the night of my OP. This is the longest I've not drunk for since I was about 18.

Re: the work thing, I've not met with the male colleague yet and he still isn't speaking to me, but I did have a meeting with my boss today about it all and she was so nice and supportive because she knows how worried I was, although I know she's not impressed she's simply said that I cannot behave like this again. We have a meeting with the colleague on Friday in which I have to apologise.

Long term I know this is going to be hard. I want to drink now, just because that's what I do. But next week I have my counselling intro and my meeting with the samaritans for potential volunteering. And I've started the new year by throwing myself into work (at the advice of exDP who was also surprisingly nice and supportive when we spoke, despite my behaviour).

As a summary, I feel like I must be an okay person for people to continue with their trust in me despite my idiocy, I just need to really, REALLY try not to fuck these people over with reptitions of stupid behaviour

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TiredButFineODFOJ · 03/01/2016 12:00

People are saying they have been where you are- and it's true. You can turn this around.
Work wise- you got drunk and had a mad drunken row with someone's partner. It's utterly embarassing of course. It's not really a "work" matter in so far as you don't work together plus I assume work arranged this bash where alcohol was provided. So there was some fault on the side of the employer.
Regarding the meeting to discuss it further- it will be difficult. You will feel like shit. You say you've done the self flagellation all year. Well younwill be doing a bit more at the meeting too, but you will do yourself and work a big favour by saying you have learned from this that you think you have a problem. You can see drinking is part of that. You're seeking help with that and with your overall situation- this has brought it all into the open.
You don't know yet what the problems are exactly, but alcohol is one, self esteem is another, so is low mood, maybe depression. Ask them to support you through this time.
They can support you in letting you take leave for your counselling appointments, doctor appointments, AA meetings, referring you to Occ Health.
I don't know if there is much "drinking" culture at work (client meetings/pub lunches/ friday drinks after work) but they can help you by not tempting you with these things. You need to avoid any work + drink situations. You can ban yourself from them, but they need to actively remove you from them as well.
You sound like you are at the start of a journey which many have been on, I'll tell you something. I'm excited and hopeful for you. After you go through the shit it's all worthwhile. Your life wil be better. You will be better.
I think you should see your GP, psychotherapy could be something which could help you. You know you have "ishoos" and you need to work out what they really are. Alcoholism is usually the symptom of a deeper problem.
Good Luck.

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Elaheh · 03/01/2016 10:40

Try anti-depressants, they will help you feel more positive and in control.
I'm quite socially anxious and in past used alcohol as a crutch. It's so easy to over-do it and end up drunk, you have my sympathy.

I also made a fool of myself at work Xmas do a few years ago. I danced on a table with my short dress riding up around my hips, tried to take male colleagues shirts off, sat on people's laps and got into a row with someone I disliked Blush Blush
The hangover was horrendous. The Monday morning was horrendous but you know what? Most people were very understanding and kind about it. They told me about past Xmas parties where someone had always done something worse, or been drunker, and although they teased me about my antics it was in a good-natured way. IME most people have made a fool of themselves while drunk at some point and so they understand.

Be kind to yourself.

BTW whenever I drink nowadays I always stick to 2units.

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catfordbetty · 03/01/2016 09:05

re: stopping drinking, no, I don't think I can

Stop fooling yourself: you must. This is the foundation on which all progress will be made.

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