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WWY have done? Was this unreasonable (and/or) a crime?

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InTheBox · 01/10/2015 18:28

I went to lunch with a colleague earlier, we went to a large supermarket chain. We both went to the self-check out machines to pay and stood together for ease of time etc.

We were waiting on the man infront to pay and leave. When we got to the checkout my colleague went to scan and pay first but we noticed some change in the little thing that dispenses change. At this point the man had already gone and tbh we wouldn't have recognised him if we'd crossed paths in the car park.

Colleague decides to pocket the change whilst I thought we should hand it to the member of staff that was attending that area. She thinks that had we given it back to the supermarket it would have just been pocketed by the "billion pound" store. I think we should have handed it back or if not, hand it in to somewhere. She thinks I'm being precious but I'm not comfortable with potentially being a feature on crime watch - an unlikely event... I know.

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WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 02/10/2015 09:48

Heartofadog - while what you did had good intentions, handing into the local police station would have been better. If the owner of the £20 had enquired and could tell the police exactly where they thought they lost it, and the amount, it would be returned to them. Unlikely, I know, but it does happen. And the people most likely to phone around looking for it, would be the people who most need it.

In most forces, if the money isn't claimed within a certain timeframe, it is either returned to the finder or given to charity.

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WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 02/10/2015 09:42

You can be charged (in Scotland anyway, not sure of English law) with Theft By Finding if you do not, within a reasonable amount of time, attempt to return goods/money to their original owner by, for example, handing over to the police. Although, you would be unlikely to be prosecuted for such a small amount, as the pf wouldn't find it in the public interest to prosecute, however, it's still theft to keep money that you find. (Although a large majority of people would, and do).

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Osolea · 02/10/2015 09:17

Just remember that your colleague has shown you very clearly what sort of a person she is.

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Spartans · 02/10/2015 09:17

Theft is intentionally depriving an owner of their property.

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HeartOfADog · 02/10/2015 09:09

Genuinely interested in what constitutes 'theft' here. Last year I found 20 quid in a stairwell near a shopping centre car park. No shops or staff nearby, and no one who had obviously just dropped it. It was near Christmas so I picked it up and went and bought a couple of gifts for disadvantaged kids, the shopping centre had a scheme on. Now I think perhaps I should have handed it in somewhere. Couldn't quite think where though and was sure the next person would just pocket it. Aware I prob did the wrong thing

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 02/10/2015 02:29

Yup it's theft... Also it doesn't reflect well on your colleague's honesty in general does itit?The fact she was willing to do it in front of you is not good either... Does she think you are similarly dishonest /that it doesn't really matter?

Btw finding and pocketing money found in the street is still theft.. I find it odd so many otherwise decent people think it's OK to do this.... Often cited is the difficulty of returning it to its owner... This is irrelevant!

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WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 02/10/2015 02:25

I was at a self service till with my 10 and 11yo ds'. The 10yo noticed a $2 and a $1 along with some silver in the change compartment. He immediately picked it up and said 'yessss!!' Before I could get the chance to reprimand him, my 11yo said open mouthed 'go and give it to the lady, it's not yours, someone might need that!' So he did, and the cashier was very praising towards him saying 'most people just pocket it' Hmm

It taught him a lesson and I told him that almost $4 could mean two loaves or a bag of apples for someone, and he realised that it would have been wrong to keep it. I was also quite proud of my 11yo.

In the situation you describe op, it should definitely have been handed in.

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nameinlights · 02/10/2015 02:03

This happened to me, I handed the money to a staff member.

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kali110 · 02/10/2015 00:24

We ( just workers) never had to account for discrepancies when i worked in retail.
We always put odd change through the till under charity donation.

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InTheBox · 01/10/2015 21:47

FarFromAnyRoad Grin

I only hope that they let me have my last meal of a McDonalds double sausage and egg McMuffin before they put me away.

But I admit that had it been on a random road somewhere then there'd be a major difference.

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MoonSandwich · 01/10/2015 21:42

Yanbu
I saw a group of noisy sweary teenagers in tescos just yesterday day. They were being rowdy and messing around. I was getting ready to clutch my pearls and do some hoiking when the main protagonist handed the cashier a pile of change to the cashier while explaining that he had found it in the self serve change dispenser. If those ruffians Wink can be honest so can your colleague. I would tease her about it for a few weeks.

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InimitableJeeves · 01/10/2015 21:42

Interesting responses on here. I remember a thread around a year ago about whether you'd hand in money you found in the street, and there quite a few vociferous types who seemed to think the concept of handing it in was quite bizarre and that it was perfectly OK to keep it. Glad to note that honesty is winning out here!

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Narp · 01/10/2015 21:40

It's immoral. Not a nice sign, IMO. It's not hers and she knows it. I would have put it in a charity box

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GirlOverboard · 01/10/2015 21:32

What your colleague did is essentially theft. It's not like finding a £5 note in the middle of the street. At a self-service checkout it's very easy to reunite the owner with their money - because there's a receipt/CCTV/loyalty card details to prove who the money belonged to. The man might have returned two minutes later, only to find that someone had pocketed his money. How would that make you feel if it happened to you? And forget all this charity box stuff - the money should have been handed to a member of staff.

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FarFromAnyRoad · 01/10/2015 21:22

Oh OP you are SO going to be on Crimewatch right there next to Mr Big the cocaine importer and that masked bloke who held up the corner shop at gunpoint. Them. And you. Staring out of the tellybox.
Dob yourself in - you know it makes sense!

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Thelushinthepub · 01/10/2015 21:12

You must call the police on yourself. They will arrest you put you on remand you will have a trial and serve prison time. Sorry. You should've kept quiet, now MN'ers know they will all call 101 on you as per standard advice if you don't

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Plentychilled · 01/10/2015 21:09

I wish my asda were like yours MsJamie. I forgot my cash back in a self service till (£30) and some fucker took it instead of handing it in and asda basically said tough shit and wouldn't check cctv.

I'd have handed it in but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

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MsJamieFraser · 01/10/2015 20:58

someone at our local Asda was prosecuted for this, they forgot to pick up their "cash back" and CCTV showed that the next person had pocked it, they ended up with a criminal record.

YANBU.

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Smoothyloopy · 01/10/2015 19:42

I once left change in a self service till in my local Tesco's, because I'd used my cupboard they were able to phone me & I collected it from customer services. You don't know the supermarket couldn't have contacted them.

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Therewasanoldladywho · 01/10/2015 19:36

I used the self service tills in Asda once and asked for £20 cash back. I forgot the £20 Blush When I got home and realised, I phoned the store and explained what had happened and it had been handed in. Never been so relieved, it's a lot of money to me. I would also go back for a fiver. YANBU. Your colleague IBU.

Oh, and I now never ask for cashback at self service! Wink

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blibblobblub · 01/10/2015 19:24

5p I probs would've kept, but £5 should've been handed in.

I once found a £20 note on the floor in Next, right by the door. Another foot and it would've been outside. I handed it in with it being in the shop. I probs would've kept it if it was outside Blush

DH and I also once found £15 folded together, obviously fallen out of someone's pocket, on a Friday night in town. We kept that as there was nobody else around, couldn't see who might've dropped it. I did feel a little bad but it paid for our taxi home...

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Hullygully · 01/10/2015 19:11

Also, they have tiny tiny store detectives standing inside those machines and they will have photographed you both. Next time you go in there those tiny tiny people will be on your arse.

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suitsyousir79 · 01/10/2015 19:09

There is a defence for theft in this instance, something along the lines of needing to take reasonable steps to find the owner of it. If that couldn't be done (and it sounds like it in this case) then your friend should have handed it in to the store. Sounds more like a moral dilemma than a legal issue.

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TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 01/10/2015 19:05

I was at in the queue for self-service tills recently when someone in front of me went to a till then went straight to a staff member and said a £5 note had been left in the change bit. The staff asked which one and took the money.

A moment later a man came in and went to the staff and said he'd forgotten to take his £5 change. The staff asked which till. He showed him and the staff said it had just been handed in and gave it to him.

Can't remember where I was going with this post... but yeah, handing it in would have been the decent thing to do.

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Prettyeyedpiratesmile · 01/10/2015 19:04

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