to say that Trainwreck is... ***SPOILERS***

[PamPoovey]

a pile of mildly misogynistic and conservative with a small 'c' gubbins?

It starts off so refreshingly different. A smart, funny and capable woman living a lifestyle that is totally acceptable for a male character (challenging job, drinking/partying, casual sex).

Who goes on to realise that it's all, in fact, a lie. She's completely dysfunctional and broken inside and can only be saved by a life of sobriety and monogamy with a man who has all the charisma and sex appeal of a boiled onion.

Who she wins back by performing a naff cheerleading routine in a tiny dress .

Piss off Judd Apatow .

(Amy Schumer's performance was great though)

I've not seen the film but judging from all I've read about it I'd say YANBU as I hate the trope that what women really want is to "settle down" and be redeemed by a man.

Oh no! You've ruined an entirely formulaic piece of Hollywood shite for me

Judd Apatow. There's your explanation.

Oh I know IABU to expect anything different from the Hollywood machine .

It's just so disappointing to me as the character is fantastic. I wouldn't have been bothered if she were the ususal leading lady Anne Hathaway type drip.

sounds bobbins, thanks for the warning

I thought it was shite from the start. Didn't bother to watch the ending.

I thought it was a cliché from the get go.

And now that we're back in action....

has anyone else seen Trainwreck?

I agree with everything you've said in principle... But I really liked it, it made me laugh and it's the first time DH has gone to the cinema with me in about six years

I feel like a very bad feminist now as I loved it

I think I was concentrating more on the fact that the lead is an outspoken and very funny woman; and being so happy with that thought that I barely noticed the cheerleading etc at the end.
Now you've brought my attention to it I realise it was a cliched and shit ending

Is Judd Apatow the doctor? I thought the fact he wasn't drop-dead gorgeous was another glimmer of realism....

Am I just clutching at straws now? I genuinely laughed all the way through!

Oh I didn't hate the film.

As I said I thought she was hilarious and there were other funny as fuck moments (John Cena sex scene made my roar) plus I adored LeBron James.

My beef is with the fact that a character like Amy can't be allowed to remain as she was at the start of the film. She has to toe the Hollywood line and become somebody's sensible other half. It's tedious as hell.

Judd Apatow is the director. Bill Hader plays the love interest.

Am marking my place, waiting for someone to complain they were looking forward to seeing the film and you've ruined it for them.

Well OP did put a spolier alert in the title so not sure what you are waiting for

Pam - John Cena made me laugh a lot too, I wished I'd taken a massive foam finger to the cinema to chant 'Ceeeee-Narrrrrrrrr' while he was humping away at Amy

Oh, I'm so disappointed I love Bill Hader

(I fear a comma would have been a helpful addition to that sentence)

I thought the whole film was shite and don't think Amy Schumer was any good either. Still watched it to the end though.

I always mentally do the Bechdel

There was an innocuous thread about Harry Potter a while back and someone complained about the spoilerse, even though the last book was published eight years ago.

That sounded really arsey but I didn't mean it to!

(I have an infuriating browser) I always mentally do the Bechdel test while I'm watching films too. How did this one fare?

You are completely right pam
I was v looking forward to it and dashed down to cinema and I simply couldn't believe it when she does the whole clean up her act routine ffs that's the whole thing about any schumer isn't it? Unapologetic etc. what's this shit with actually underneath it all she just needs to acknowledge that her true desire is to behave herself, demean herself and get a nice square boyfriend
I thought bridesmaids was the same misogynist crap. I did like that one with Melissa and Sandra bullock as cops. That were funny.
Suppose trainwreck passes bechdel if u count convos with her boss

Haven't seen the film but Judd Apatow films always paint women as shrews who just need to be shown the way by their laid back husband/boyfriend.

Was it about 7 hours long? His films always go on for daaaaaays. That's my biggest issue with Mr Apatow. This Is 40 should have been called This Is 40 Minutes Too Long.

Doesn't Judd Apatow often cast his real life wife in the wifely role too?

This thread has made me think she should be pretty offended! (Not really thought of his work as a whole before)

I saw the trailer for it and thought 'what a pile of shit'.

I liked 'The Heat'. It was funny and silly and did what it said on the tin.

I'm looking forward to 'Bill'.

Fucking awful.

It started well and then her bug-eyed priggish boyfriend appeared.

Why was it called Trainwreck btw? There were no trains and nothing crashed.

If he'd have died horribly in a bloody rending of flesh against jagged metal, I might have liked it more.