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AIBU?

to be upset at feedback given to agency?

38 replies

upsetteacher15 · 10/06/2015 20:22

OK so you'd think a good teacher would set homework, issue detention for homework not done, not let children go on phones in lessons right?

Well apparently not because I did all those things but have been complained about (OF COURSE! Because the little dears don't want to do homework do they!) and am not going back Sad

It was meant to be a 3 week booking, could have used the money.

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MayPolist · 12/06/2015 22:25

Op .Try not to let it prey on your mind and just chalk it up to experience.i used to work in a school and I was appalled at the bullying of supply and NQTs that went on by established' teachers.Shocking!

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ItMustBeBunnies · 12/06/2015 21:51

How long had you given the students to do the homework? Had the teacher you shared with also issued homework?

In my school, the policy is that students have to have a week to complete it.

Were you meant to set homework?

What is the policy on 'phone use? We tell students to put them away, if not followed then we follow warning system. We are not allowed to confiscate 'phones.

Did you have a quiet word with the other teacher and ask to see the students out of the classroom at a convenient point?

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 12/06/2015 21:47

Next time follow school policy.

Simples.

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arethereanyleftatall · 12/06/2015 21:40

'Ability to take and learn from criticism and feedback' I would say is fairly high up in the criteria of what makes a good teacher.
Your last post suggests that it's not a strong point for you.
Calm down, re read the thread, and try to understand what others are saying.

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fastdaytears · 12/06/2015 17:31

Wow how did we get to kids downloading pronography? Is there a big problem with kids putting pictures of their teachers on Instagram. I guess at least if it's Instagram they could put a flattering filter on.

Honestly if the way you're responding on this thread is indicative...

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LineRunner · 12/06/2015 09:35

What's the school's procedure for missed homework and missed detentions? That's what needs to be followed, as that'll be in the home-school agreement.

Your issue with mobile phones seems a bit unrealistic tbh. They are always going to be around in schools, a lot. Again, there will be clear school rules to follow.

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Lottiedoubtie · 12/06/2015 09:28

Nobody has told you it is acceptable for pupils to have phones out in class.

Following them to another lesson to tell them off for missing your detention is the main issue I'd say. I would be seriously pissed off if this happened to me. If a pupil misses a detention I have set- I escalate it appropriately through their head of year/the head of department/phoning their parents etc..

I do not go and be rude to them, disrupting a colleagues class in the process.

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WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 12/06/2015 09:19

Hmm starting to see the problem....

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upsetteacher15 · 12/06/2015 08:14

Ok so you think it's acceptable for pupils to have phones out, could be taking photos of me, downloading pornogrsphy I don't want to end up on Twitter or Instagram with obscene comments thank you very much.

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Seriouslyffs · 12/06/2015 08:07

Yes- don't undermine the other teachers. But Angry for you that you lost the work.
As an aside, I thought of you and supply teachers in general when I heard of this
incident

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EveryPenny1 · 11/06/2015 08:49

I think you need to reflect on the feedback and ask yourself if you could have done things differently?
The main issue here seems to be the way you interupted another teachers lesson............

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wannabestressfree · 11/06/2015 08:07

I would be annoyed if you came into my lesson and complained about students not going to detention.

I think with supply you tend to stamp down pretty quick rather than allow natural relationships to grow. This can cause conflict. Many supplies don't last at ours for being 'odd'.

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undoubtedly · 11/06/2015 06:11

I'd be pretty concerned if a colleague complained about me. What exactly did you say? Do you think you could have handled it differently?

Your op doesn't reflect what you said in your later post.

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fastdaytears · 11/06/2015 05:59

I don't think the teacher who complained has anything to gain by making that up, and presumably by getting rid of a supply teacher has actually made her own life harder so her feedback is the real issue I think and the MN teachers above seem to agree that disrupting the lesson wasn't a good way to go about things.
Are you new to supply teaching? I imagine it's a nightmare with each school having different expectations and cultures. Also, being the total and utter horror I was at secondary school, there's no way I'd have turned up at a detention set by a supply teacher without a permanent member of staff having been involved. I know that's not fair or nice or at all respectful but if memory serves me correctly nor are most 13 year olds.

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maddy68 · 10/06/2015 23:57

The complaint was about interrupting another teachers lesson , not about chasing homework.

I would be livid if another teacher did that to me.

I bet after that it took ages to calm the kids down for the interrupted lesson

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arethereanyleftatall · 10/06/2015 23:22

It sounds like the complaints aren't for anything you actually did, such as your list in your op, but rather your attitude. You were rude and shouted, is what the complaints were about. Have you reflected on that?

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LaLyra · 10/06/2015 23:07

It sounds like you didn't match with that school if a colleague felt the need to complain as well as students and a parent.

Did you follow the school's behaviour policy to the letter? Did the Head/Department Head give you any guidance about the normal way of doing things?

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BabyMurloc · 10/06/2015 23:04

Setting homework - fine
Detention for homework not done - fine
Removing a mobile phone - fine

But if I was teaching and another teacher walked in to shout at my students during my lesson I'd be peeved as well! If they don't turn up for detention personally I would have escalated that through whatever the schools channels are for that kind of thing. It seems unfair on other kids to have their teaching time disturbed for you to attempt to deal with kids who didn't show up.

Try and think about things from an outside perspective and see what you would do and could do differently next time. Ask yourself these questions:
Do you know the schools procedures for setting homework? Did you follow them?
Did you follow the school guidelines for detention and follow up?
Were you overly harsh when removing phones?
Did you disrupt another teachers lesson?

Supply teaching is really hard but there are likely lessons to be learnt here. Namely make sure you understand and conform with the school policies on homework and discipline.

I hope your next experience is much better.

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DamnBamboo · 10/06/2015 23:02

OK so you'd think a good teacher would set homework, issue detention for homework not done, not let children go on phones in lessons right

No, not necessarily to all of those. Did you even try to establish why the homework hadn't been done?
Why couldn't you have waited until you next saw those pupils to pick it up directly with them, rather than attempting to confront them in front of the whole class in someone else's lesson.

I think YABU in how you've dealt with this. And I'm pretty strict as a parent too.

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CamelHump · 10/06/2015 23:00

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coolaschmoola · 10/06/2015 22:54

If another teacher thinks that you were rude to the students then maybe you need to reflect on your tone and what you actually said because it's normal for kids to say we've been harsh etc, but for a colleague to say you were rude to students is a whole other kettle of fish.

If students and staff both found you rude it implies that you may not be as polite as you think.

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WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 10/06/2015 22:19

Well, a teacher complained about you, a parent complained about you, and students complained about you. Thats a lot of complaints for.... a day? Or a week?
I'm not saying you're in the wrong but its a lot, and the school must have felt justified.

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CandOdad · 10/06/2015 22:02

The agency will take this in its stride too. I have worked in several schools this year and just before Christmas they phoned to give me some feedback but then told me not to worry as the school is well known for being picky and all the other schools are more than happy with me.

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whois · 10/06/2015 21:53

Well it sounds like you did disrupt the start of another teachers lesson? The rest sounds overinflated.

Hey ho, at least you know you don't want to go back there and work in that school now.

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KrevlornswathoftheDeathwokClan · 10/06/2015 21:48

Some schools are odd to supply as I'm sure you know. Atmosphere varies enormously. Sorry you lost work but at least you don't have to deal with how shit they are.

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