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AIBU?

that one child might inherit more than another....(logical people needed for this!)

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thelmasmonkey · 29/11/2014 21:06

I'm in the process of writing will with dh but don't know if what is a fair division of assets between dcs.

Dc1 is mine from a previous relationship. DC1's father is well off. Dc2 is from current relationship.

Dh and my assets are tied into our property.

Should our property be split fifty fifty between dc1 and dc2 in event of both our deaths?
Or should my half be split fifty fifty between children while his half goes to dc2. That means dc2 stands to inherit 3/4 of estate but dc1 might potentially inherit all of her fathers.
Dc1 would inherit from her father. Dc1 will also reside with her father in event of my death. If dh and I both die then dc 2 will be orphaned and need money to help with her upbringing.

What makes me uneasy though is that there's a small risk that dc1 might not inherit anything from her father and will only have 1/4 of current estate. But if we do split 50/50 dc1 stands to inherit a lot more if her father does leave her everything.

Confused?Hmm

Yes I am aware that dcs might not get anything as estate could be used to fund me and dh in old age but l also want to prepare for alternative too.

Any advice would be great.

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NeedABumChangeNotANameChange · 30/11/2014 20:45

DH should just leave his half of the estate to his offspring dc2 esp as dc1and he have only polite friendly relationship instead of father daughter one.

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HedgehogsDontBite · 30/11/2014 20:39

We're writing our wills at the moment. It's maybe a bit easier for us because my DD has had no contact with her biological father for 20 years. DH is the only dad she's ever known and he knows that. Our primary concern is that we don't create any strife between DD and DS. Regardless of parentage, when we go they will only have each other and I'd rather leave everything to the cat if it was the only way of keeping them united.

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mix56 · 30/11/2014 20:30

actually my error, he could give away his share, but not the share of the children. this equal split is standard

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mix56 · 30/11/2014 20:28

Where I live,(France) you cannot disinherit a child, they are by law given equal shares. A surviving spouse can live in the jointly owned property but cannot sell or give (your share) in it in any way to a future wife etc inversely, if any of the kids want their share of the property equity they have to wait until you kark it ! or provide you with alternative access that suits you.
(so, in many ways this could be very unfair, but saves a lot of bitching ! Imagine one handicapped child & another millionaire...)

in my case, my half is split into 3 parts between OH & our 2 kids, & his half go into 4 parts, to me & to his 3 DCs his 1st son & our joint 2

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 20:21

snowspot am sorry to hear this but I do think you should mention.

Are you close with stepsister? What does she think?

If you were to inherit large amount from DM and sf would you think df's will was fair then?

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SnowSpot · 30/11/2014 19:42

Can I just add to this,

My DF told me he would be leaving my DB and I only a small amount in his will. The rest will go to my half-sister for precisely the reason you said. He said that my stepfather and mum would be leaving us money so it would all even out.

5 years on and SF and DM have had a horrible divorce, no money left there. And I'm too embarrassed by the grasping idea of pointing it out to my DF that it would no longer be a 'fair' split, as i believe people should do with their money as they seem fit. So as far as I know, my DStepsister will inherit over £150K, and we will be left much much less than that. I'm starting to think that my 'don't interfere with wills/money matters for other people' stance is looking a bit unfair!

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Bodicea · 30/11/2014 19:35

Split 50/50 between your two children definately. You can't bank on anything from your first child's father. This is your estate - you can't treat them differently.

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Got99problems · 30/11/2014 19:17

Agree with PPs who have suggested that, for now, you leave the children equal parts (of the total estate of you and DH combined). Should exH die before you, you can then re-evaluate on the basis of what he has actually left DC1. If he doesn't die before you, as far as DC1 is concerned they will have inherited a huge amount less than their sibling (and will probably feel hurt and confused, as well as grieving for you).

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 19:11

cozietoe thank you for your thought out and measured response. Also thanks to other posters who've taken time to explain thoughts.

I guess it makes sense to write will to protect children now and reevaluate. I've been putting this off as I didn't want to address these complexities.

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cozietoesie · 30/11/2014 19:01

thelmasmonkey

This doesn't need to be your last will - in my own family we tend to rewrite our wills every two or three years - so why not just do a holding will to cover the next few years and then reassess the situation in a bit.

The thing to do is to consider what, broadly, you hope to achieve by leaving your estate. If your deep down aim is to influence people's lives from the grave it might be a very different document to that which would result from just trying to support people until X time when you're not around to provide as you would wish.

Have a think about your family situation and write something. The one thing I would say is do write something. Lack of a disposition can create many more problems for people at a time when they might find difficulty in coping with them.

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 18:51

Sorryvto hear that hissing Sad

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 18:48

toomuch have you bothered to read my op? How can I force dh to split his share. Mine will be split

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hissingcat · 30/11/2014 18:47

monkey I got nothing because there was no will left, just an assumption I would get half.

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toomuchcoffeetoomuchwine · 30/11/2014 18:37

Split it equally down to the penny or start a nuclear war.

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YonicScrewdriver · 30/11/2014 18:32

Please, listen to penguins. It's quite unlikely that the will you make now will be the one in force when you die as you will change it with circumstance (for example - to include future grandchildren, to cover medical needs if either DD falls ill etc etc)

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 17:53

the grey my share will be split fifty fifty. I have mentioned this loads on thread.

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thegreylady · 30/11/2014 17:52

You cannot, must not do other than 50/50 to your children. They are both your children they are not both your dh's children so his will may well leave a lion's share to his own child. No one would be hurt by that but your dc1 would be devastated to find she was valued so much less by you :(

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 17:52

Flogging you haven't met him Grin and yes I'm bonkers. GrinGrin

hissing how come you got nothing if u don't mind my asking?

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Floggingmolly · 30/11/2014 17:09

Why are you so certain that your ex won't have any more children???

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mix56 · 30/11/2014 17:07

Also in my case, my father's money has ALL gone in carers fees.. so even if ExH has pots of gold, by the time he dies, he may well have nothing left.
You can only leave your share, 50/50, your OH leaves his to hid child, & your XH will leave to his child
if indeed there is anything left !

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cavkc · 30/11/2014 17:05

Regarding the house, it is only a small part of the estate, so we've taken the decision to trust one another on that one. We wanted the other to have no restrictions in what we would each do with the house during our remaining lifetime, if for example DH sold up and bought a yacht then good on him. The property is our gift to the other

I know one of us could use the trust unwisely, however we can't touch the capital only the income. Most of this will be in property and it's where we both have expertise so it's just a case of managing the properties and tenants and taking an income from that after expenses, council tax, property maintenance etc. when that spouse dies, the properties etc will belong 50/50 to our children

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hissingcat · 30/11/2014 16:57

I think you should split 50/50 and not consider what DC1 may or may not inherit from her father as a lot can change in life.
up until I was 10 I had a loving (and wealthy) father who I saw regularly until he remarried, broke contact and hit the skids and I haven't seen him for over 20 years.
my DM died when I was in my 20s and despite her money supposed to get split 50/50 between me and her husband I ended up with nothing.
what would happen if you died first? Your dh would inherit everything and most likely leave it to DC2 his biological child.
what if DC 1 father remarries and has more children then he dies before his new partner. she could inherit 100% and cut your DC1 out.

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thelmasmonkey · 30/11/2014 16:48

cav but if your dh dies he could sell his house or use trust money unwisely? Confused

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cavkc · 30/11/2014 16:41

Should also have said ...

Our Wills are mirror images of one another's. Should one of us die, the house we live in at the time will be left 100% to our spouse. Any other assets/savings/investments etc will then be placed in a Trust, which the remaining spouse would in effect manage during their lifetime and can draw an income from. When that spouse dies all remaining monies will be split 50/50 between our two children.

Our solicitor called this the milkman clause, meaning should DH die and I marry the milkman I can't then disinherit my dss

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PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 30/11/2014 16:36

OP- I am sorry that you feel sad. I think you need to focus on the most likely scenarios in which this will (and not one you might re-write in years to come) gets triggered. Those are:

  • You die, and your DH is raising your DC and your eldest is living with her dad;


  • Your DH dies and you are raising both children.


Far less likely, but possible, is that you and your DH both die and your child(ren) need to be provided for. (If your ex dies, you can revise your will, so discount that one).

You need to make the wills work best for those scenarios. The whys and wherefores of who might inherit in years to come are too numerous to account for all of them. You don't, and can't, know if your ex will have more children, or need to use his money elsewhere. You don't, and can't, know if your DH might remarry and have more children, or win the lottery or an unexpected inheritance himself in 20 years' time.

You are beating yourself up about inheritance, but both your children could easily be in their 70s before all three of you have died and it all finally pans out. Your focus needs to be on provision for your family, not the end result (not least because, if they finally inherit in their 60s or 70s, so much life will have been lived and financial positions changed that it probably has nothing to do with overall result).
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