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AIBU?

...to be worried about my wife's desire for a third child?

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ThePerfectFather · 03/04/2014 12:01

My wife of 20 years (we're 38) wants a third, we currently have 2 DDs, 2.5 and 5, and I'm the SAHD who raises 'em while my wife earns the corn.

I am not a natural at this game but the kids are great and they're doing well at school and seem to be a happy pair. I am crap at doing most of the sort of support work like laundry and cleaning but I do all the cooking and shopping and all the rest of it so I think it's pretty balanced. I also do some work from home for my sort of business on the internet if you like, and that's currently really taking off and paying the sort of money you could reasonably call "a salary" rather than "peanuts". I really want to leave behind the abject horror of looking after young kids. I hated the first years so much, I know that's wrong but I enjoy the kids WAY more now. I have spoken to a lot of my mates and many of them feel the same way - babies are really hard work, but once they get to be little people they're just fantastic fun.

And now, into the mix, my wife has thrown a desire for a third child.

I recently took down all the child proofing stuff like stair gates etc, we ebayed or freecycled a bunch of other baby stuff, binned things like old sterilisers, bottles etc and gave all our baby clothes to our friends who've had babies of their own. We upgraded our car seats, I've started going through the NHS process for a vasectomy, even, so we were committed to the idea that this was it - no more children, 2 was plenty.

Then, out of nowhere, my wife announces that she's going off her birth control and that's that. She's been on the deepo injection for years and now, out of the blue, she's off it. I knew why, of course. She hoped she'd get pregnant and then of course I'd say "fine, looks like we're having a third". I'm not going to suddenly demand an abortion or anything horrific like that, and if we DID have a third, of course I'd adore the baby as much as my 2 DDs already.

She sort of turned into one of those 18 year old boys I'm sure all the women on here have had to fend off (or not) when they were younger who said things like "don't worry you can't get pregnant the first time" and so on. She started to say things like "it's ok I haven't had my period yet" and so I, being an idiot, had sex with her and she then phones me a few days later to say "I did a test and I'm not pregnant" and sounded kind of disappointed.

Hang on a sec - I thought you said we couldn't GET pregnant?! I felt like an idiot for even buying that one for a second, so now that's it - no sex until after the vasectomy, I told her. All she could say was "we'll see" because she knows I'm a weak fool when it comes to sex.

So far, no doctor's appointment has been forthcoming because, you know, it's the NHS and there's lines of blokes desperate to get their balls hacked off. I could call and tell them I want to crack on because I am dying for a shag but I doubt they'd care, the MONSTERS. So I'm just going to remain diligent and have so far (about a month now) avoided any kind of activity that might lead to anything. I'm basically keeping her at arms length. A firm handshake before she leaves for work, no more slapping her on her bum, etc. Civil, businesslike. She's getting the message that I'm not interested while she's fertile for kids.

Anyway - now I am worried about the lengths she'll go to. I've read that statistic about the number of men raising kids who aren't theirs, and she's a very attractive girl so I'm seriously worried that she's going to find some fella just like in that Heart song "All I Wanna Do is Make Love to You" about the woman who just wants to have sex with a guy to get knocked up because her husband won't or can't do it! And it's one of her favourite songs too! When I said some years ago that it's about a women cheating on two men she said "you don't understand" and I fancy that she thinks it's fair game.

She's often out after work for these "leaving drinks" for people I've never heard mentioned before, and has to go away for business sometimes too. What if she finds some bloke who looks a bit like me and gets him into the sack. What am I going to do, demand a paternity test the moment the baby is born? Go on the Maury Povich show?

I feel like this is the ultimate role reversal and, in some way, I deserve this as some penance for what my people (men) have wrought upon women these many generations past.

So what should I do? I love my wife and I fancy the pants off her so the idea of losing her because she wants a baby so badly she either stops loving me, or screws someone else and forces me to leave her (I wouldn't be able to live with it, despite everything, mainly because my Dad was a serial divorcer and left us high and dry long ago) is keeping me up at night.

She's quite a driven person and can be extremely cold and calculating at times (like a beautiful lizard) for example when she lost her virginity, she just decided she wanted to, found a guy she knew and fancied, marched up to him in the pub and said "can you come round tomorrow and pop my cherry", this was despite him having a girlfriend that she knew, and that was that. Job done. She's like a robot when she wants something.

So AIBU? What the hell should I do?

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Minnieisthedevilmouse · 04/04/2014 19:28

Ah good luck then. I would put more store in sober convos than drunk ones....

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Bifauxnen · 04/04/2014 19:18

Hope things work out for you both, glad you feel a bit clearer about things. Sorry for being a bit mean but your op was a little wanky.
The 'men who post on mn' bit was spot on though. Grin

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ThePerfectFather · 04/04/2014 19:03

As it happens, by way of an update, I spoke to my wife about this last night after she'd come home a little drunk, and we'd made love. I know, I know, arms length and all that. Indefensible. Sort of. But the fact I didn't really care made it obvious that I didn't mind either way. I'm not keen on it, but I'm also not exactly terrified of it either.

The discussion here actually helped a lot because some of the questions people asked were ones I hadn't really considered myself, and the talk about childcare not being the end of the world was important. We decided that three wouldn't be the END of the world, and that we'd sort out more childcare, nursery or something along those lines, if it happened. However, we've also decided - perhaps wrongly, I don't really know - to just carry on as normal until the operation and if anything happens in the interim, so be it. Let the fates decide.




Burren, you're a bore. And a sexist. Did I not fulfil some secret criteria you have for men posting on MN? I'll try not to let it keep me up at night, eh.

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ivanapoo · 04/04/2014 16:14

Maybe having another child is her way to spend more time with all her family (ie mat leave)? Could she move to a job with fewer hours so she can spend more time with the children she does have?

You need to stop posting eloquent guff and talk to her, properly. And LISTEN.

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Echocave · 04/04/2014 12:23

Very young child

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Echocave · 04/04/2014 12:21

I feel a bit sorry for you OP as, despite your entertaining writing style (!), you've actually got a serious problem here. I agree with you that your wife views the date of your vasectomy as a deadline to beat. However, is she still in favour of the vasectomy overall? Obviously you need to discuss this.
I also sympathise with the view that she needs to realise what the day to day grind of life with a very child is. If you don't do it, it can be very hard to explain. I'm on my second maternity leave and I honestly think id have gone mad if I had to be a SAHP as I'm really not cut out for it. I think if you were a female poster being pressurised to have a third child by their spouse, there would be some strong reactions about financial abuse, control etc particularly if the woman had made it clear how hard she found looking after the children day after day. Also,why shouldn't you be able to develop your career too?

So, it's serious discussion time. I'm not sure anyone else's experiences are relevant as the outcome rather depends on your personalities and the relationship dynamics. Very good luck to you.

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oscarwilde · 04/04/2014 11:50

Keep us posted OP!

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BoffinMum · 03/04/2014 20:29

You sound like you need to go back to work, mate. I mean properly, and bite the bullet on the childcare thing. I have four of the blighters and I had to go back to work for my own sanity. DH is unusually kid friendly but even agreed he would find staying at home all the time a bit much.

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Burren · 03/04/2014 20:21

I think BrunoBrookes' classification of male Mn posting norms is pretty damn accurate, actually, and the OP is a classic instance of Type 2. And if you don't like being classified, OP, stop being such a cliché. It's like one of those bird varieties, like grouse, where the male of the species parades around the lekking ground inflating his wattles and doing a display of how manly he is.

Desist or someone will hack at your Vas Deferens with a butter knife while smacking you on the rump and singing Heart songs at you.

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ThePerfectFather · 03/04/2014 20:16

I can't bring myself to type his name out to be honest which is weird because Maury is just as bad.

Circumstance dictates that my wife earn the money. Namely - she has a good career and job, I don't. What else can we do?

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ivanapoo · 03/04/2014 19:54

Is your wife really happy being the main earner while you SAHP? I don't see you mention that anywhere.

And this side of the Atlantic you'd get Jeremy Kyle, not Maury Povich. I'm a Montel fan myself.

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GoooRooo · 03/04/2014 19:03

I'll give you the snip for £399. Pair of gardens shears, bottle of whiskey. Job done.

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LizLemonOut · 03/04/2014 18:42

My bottom emits a sigh of relief.

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chrome100 · 03/04/2014 18:21

SNORT at "like a beautiful lizard" Grin

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SanityClause · 03/04/2014 17:29

DH's vasectomy on the NHS was done under a local anaesthetic, OP.

I would be very surprised if you could have a general for that, TBH. That's what you will be paying the big money for, if you go private.

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TheNightIsDark · 03/04/2014 17:24

I love you OP.

That is all.

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Tinpin · 03/04/2014 17:12

It's swings and roundabouts I guess . I had my three close together and I don't think my 2 year old really noticed when I had her sister. She certainly can't remember her not being around. I mean things like trips to the theatre , cinema. We could always go as a family because everybody had the same interests. Friend with large age gaps couldn't do this.

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Minnieisthedevilmouse · 03/04/2014 17:06

Lose out how? If anything they gain! My 2yr old lost out a year as I fussed over baby. At least at six they can help or play.

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ThePerfectFather · 03/04/2014 17:05

LizLemon, I promise I will never slap you on the bum. No matter how rounded and awesome it is.

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Tinpin · 03/04/2014 16:59

Well you have my sympathy! It's very selfish to demand a third child when you know that your part in it's upbringing is going to fairly minimal and you are going to be passing all the everyday hard work to your partner. It is especially unthinking when you know that person really does not want that burden. If your wife was offering other solutions such as shared care that would be more reasonable but appears not to be the case. I too also don't like large age gaps because I think older children lose out and your
eldest would be nearly 6 by the time a new baby arrived. I would be very firm in my no and would get myself off to a private clinic for that vasectomy!

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PopiusTartius · 03/04/2014 16:51

Dear OP, it's most often done under local on the NHS as well, often at the GP surgery. It takes about 5 minutes, they give you a slight sedative beforehand to make you less anxious. If you want it done under general on the NHS you'd probably be waiting for sex till LizardLegs was the far side of the menopause anyway. And so you should be, quite frankly, for something so minor. Absolutely no sense making it cost the NHS 10 times what it should.

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LizLemonOut · 03/04/2014 16:40

You've stopped slapping her on the bum? Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock Good lord, OP, thats the ultimate cruelty. If she did have "one too many leaving drinks" phnar phnar she'd be well within her rights.

Maybe have a big boy conversation with the ol' lizard-bot?

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ThePerfectFather · 03/04/2014 16:35

If you don't like Jon Ronson then that explains it. We would never have got along, no matter what! He's a God!

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RedFocus · 03/04/2014 16:35

Op my husband had one 7 years ago and he's a tiny, weeny bit squeamish...ok very squeamish and coped perfectly well with it all and you don't see anything or feel anything. You'll be fine. Grin

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BrunoBrookesDinedAlone · 03/04/2014 16:34

Sorry OP. I feel bad about being bitchy to you now. Bad form. Jon Ronson has exactly the same effect on me. Sorry. Honest.

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