AIBU to see a herbalist?

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Posting here for traffic really.

I'm meeting with a herbalist today and I don't really know what to expect. I have early menopause and the symptoms that go with it and want to explore alternative options rather than taking HRT or an anti-depressant (which is being recommended as an alternative to HRT).

Has any one got any experience of taking herbs as a treatment?
AIBU to think this could actually be an alternative?
Any other alternatives to HRT that anyone can recommend?

[chocoluvva]

Yes. Best to consult a herbalist!!!

[Fecklessdizzy]

If herbal medicines have an effect, they can have side effects!

[chocoluvva]

Herbal medicine usually does work IMO - from what I've read. It often doesn't have as strong an effect as pharmaceutical drugs though.

GPs aren't required to know about most herbal medicines and they don't have time to investigate less serious health concerns of their patients - which will often be helped by herbal medicines. They can only prescribe medicines on the list of approved drugs. Hopefully, more herbal medicines will be sufficiently researched to make it on to the NHS list in time.

(St John's Wort is prescribed by GPs). And should not be taken with some other medications.

[HettiePetal]

Don't go expecting miracles. If herbal medicine worked it would be called medicine and the NHS would be prescribing it.

But the placebo effect is very powerful and might help you enormously with your anxiety and insomnia.

Please properly research anything you are given to take though. Natural/herbal does not automatically equal safe.

[FadBook]

Trialling a months treatment which is the same cost as a HRT prescription, so will see. The lady is so convinced I will see a difference, I can't help but be "sold" by it. If anyone can change my sleep pattern (or non-sleep pattern as the case may be) and general anxiety, I will be happy with that. She seems to think that if she solves the core problems (stress / anxiety) I'll see a difference with other things going on ie menopause.

Will update you paxtecum thanks

[paxtecum]

My experiences of herbalists are all postive.

Thirty years ago tea tree products were 'alternative'.
Now they are used by the NHS.

Keep us all updated with your progress please.

[Martorana]

And you know what herbs are made of? Chemicals.

[BeCool]

My dear friend saw a herbalist after an early menopause (medically confirmed) and credits him with her pregnancy a year later.

[chocoluvva]

That's why herbalists are highly trained.

I think most culinary herbs probably are used as medicine. Eg turmeric is used as an anti-inflammatory, ginger as as anti-sickness help, oregano is anti-bacterial, cinnamon helps with blood-sugar control, pelargonium root for upper respiratory-tract infections.

We probably would lots of other herbs such as black cohosh, agnus castus etc if they weren't so bitter.

[FadBook]

Thanks sleep will have a look on my kindle. I don't eat masses of sugar as don't have a sweet tooth. my general diet is quite good. There are some improvements I can make though

[Sleepwhenidie]

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[truelymadlysleepy]

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[FadBook]

Thanks everyone. The consultation was really beneficial and enlightening actually. Her advice / diagnosis seems plausible and "fits" to what is happening in my life at the moment (anxiety, stress, not sleeping) and her suggested treatment will improve on that part, which in turn improve on the menopausal symptoms.

She was extremely knowledgeable of general health, symptoms, remedies and general nutrition, which I found helpful.

I'm pleased I explored it. And I've found the comments on this thread helpful too. Thanks for responding.

[chocoluvva]

Herbs are edible - we eat similar/the same things in smaller quantities as part of our diet anyway.

Many herbal supplements haven't yet been researched for their effectiveness - doesn't mean they don't have an effect. Or they might have the same, but less of an effect than pharmaceutical drugs. Eg cinnamon supplements have been shown to reduce blood -glucose levels but not by as much as metformin.

[HavantGuard]

There's no problem with seeing a herbalist. As people have pointed out, herbal medicines have actual ingredients (unlike homeopathy) and some can be beneficial.

I would get traditional medical advice on anything you are given by a herbalist before taking it. They can have real impacts on your body and can for example make bleeding worse, raise blood pressure etc.

[Martorana]

"Herbs are a concentrated form of diet - iyswim"

Nidswym

[BloodyUseless]

Side effects are the down side of drugs that actually work. Don't you think "conventional" doctors would prescribe herbal medicines if they were effective AND had no side effects? In fact the herbs that do work probably do have side effects. It's the ones that don't I'd be suspicious of.

[cardibach]

THe idea that there are no side effects with herbal medicine is flawed. As others have said, many drugs are herbal in origin, and many poisons are in fact herbal. I am with the wonderful Tim Minchin on this - 'Alternative Medicine?, I continue
?Has either not been proved to work,
Or been proved not to work.
You know what they call ?alternative medicine?
That's been proved to work?
Medicine'
Herbal medicine is obviously better than nonsense like homeopathy, but still, if it actually works it has become part of mainstream medicine (although the active chemicals will often now be created in a lab).

[chocoluvva]

Herbs are a concentrated form of diet - iyswim. So having a very good diet tailored to your individual needs should be helpful.

[chocoluvva]

She will probably give you a very detailed questionnaire and ask about your lifestyle and diet. It would be helpful if you have a rough idea of what your blood pressure is and your weight.

Another option would be to see a nutritionist who specialises in women's health, as nutritionists recommend supplements, many of which are herbal. Not a dietician though - not specialised enough.

[worldgonecrazy]

I would only see someone who has the NIMH qualification. These are medically qualified herbalists who have had years of training and will know about contraindications with other medicines.

I have found herbalism useful to counteract the unpleasant side effects of some medicines, and my mum used herbalism succesfully during her cancer treatment to alleviate the side effects of chemotherapy.

[FadBook]

I don't understand why you wouldn't use pharmaceuticals that have been fully tested and are prescribed by the NHS

A little bit more background, I'm 30. I've went through early menopause when I was 17. Being medicated on HRT has huge risks for me, including cervical and breast cancer. I could potentially be on it for 15 years. I need to look at other options and if I can avoid HRT I will. The sides effects and evidence of a link between HRT are too strong to ignore and not at least explore alternatives.