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To think these single parents don't hold the monopoly on difficult parenting...

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MeepMeepVrooooom · 06/01/2014 20:59

My friend and I were at a local mother and toddler group this morning and we were having a private conversation regarding her on going situation with her partner. Don't want to go in to details but the basics, he works away a lot. Doesn't contribute much in the way of finances (apart from rent), emotional support, practical support even when he is home.

My friend started to get a little upset and I was aware that 2 women were able to overhear the conversation and suggested leaving and her coming to mine for a coffee to talk properly. She agreed and then said sometimes I feel like I'm a single parent, and it's tough.

Well woah did these women not rip her to shreds. She was already upset and they didn't pull any punches saying, she has no idea how hard it is to be a single parent and the long and short was man up and she was selfish. I told my friend to get her son and I would meet her outside.

I politely suggested that the women should keep their nose out of a conversation they overheard and were not directly involved in and that actually they were unaware of the full circumstances therefore really should not comment.

I am not for one second saying the two situations are the same there are obvious differences but she was just saying that was how she sometimes felt. I also don't think single parents have an easy time of it, neither to people in my friends position or even people in stable loving family's. We all have problems, I know not all single parents have this attitude but this isn't the first time I have came across women/men with this attitude.

This isn't so much as a AIBU as it is a bit of a whinge and wondering others opinions...?

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IneedAsockamnesty · 07/01/2014 16:55

.ifnotnow

Yes,oh yes. Grin

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kmdwestyorks · 07/01/2014 15:16

Since she gave a personal perspective and expressed her feelings rather than an all encompassing opinion I can't see how your friend was being unreasonable.

Raising children is hard whatever the circumstances and sometimes we all need a little extra support and a chance to vent without judgement being passed.

Kicking someone when they're already down though is just mean.

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 07/01/2014 14:47

sock really? Thanks!
Just waiting for the day ds and friends discover Bad Bob and think it's a light saber...Grin

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MeepMeepVrooooom · 07/01/2014 14:34

invicta & Andro That was exactly what she meant. I just don't understand why this is so offensive to a lot of single parents, I am one and it really doesn't bother me.

When it comes to people who's partners work Mon-Fri for example 8-8 and are home at the weekend and really pitch in pulling their weight within the family I can see why the comparison would come across as insulting and naive to some but this is a completely different situation.

Plus it was none of their bloody business. Poor woman doesn't want to come back to the group now I will drag her kicking and screaming Smile

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Andro · 07/01/2014 14:19

then said sometimes I feel like I'm a single parent, and it's tough.

So what she was saying was that she felt as though she was doing everything herself , with no support from her partner? I don't think her statement was at all unreasonable, she wasn't trying to say that she knew what it was like to be a single parent...just that she felt as though she was on her own.

The people who laid into her were very rude and you seem to be a lovely friend.

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invicta · 07/01/2014 14:17

The two mothers were very rude, and I sympathise with your friend. She seems to be saying that she feels she is doing everything, and not getting any support from her partner. I know people in that situation also.

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IneedAsockamnesty · 07/01/2014 14:09

ifnotnow

Hitachi magic wand.

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 07/01/2014 14:02

And sex. I would quite like to have sex a LOT more often! Thank God for cheap batteries at Aldi.

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 07/01/2014 14:00

hermione-exactly, it's the emotional side, and the hostilities with an Ex that take their toll.
If I had dc with a man i liked and trusted, and if he paid maintenance and could have ds over at his place sometimes, life would be sweet.

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IfNotNowThenWhen · 07/01/2014 13:54

It really depends. My friend is single, and a parent, but she has shared 50/50 custody with her Ex. He is married now to a lovely woman who my friend trusts, and is great with the dc. The two parents live close to one another, so now dc is older, he can be more flexible about where he stays, as he has two homes.
My friend has an all consuming hobby, and a boyfriend, and has lots of freedom to do her own thing.
I think she missed her dc when he was younger at times, but knowing he was with a good dad really helped.
On the other hand, I was single from being pregnant, gave birth on my own, and have been the 100% lone parent since, and it's a very different experience.
As someone upthread said though, it gets loads easier.
The worst thing for me when ds was tiny was just the relentlessness, and the tiredness, and the restrictiveness-not being able to just pop to the shops, or have a walk on my own.
Now it's mainly the financial side of things, the fact that I would like to be able to buy a house and can't on my own, or that the council tax/water bill/gas bill/ holiday costs are all mine.Plus the fact that I still have to deal with ds's dad, who is, frankly, a waste of oxygen.
The also agree that people do tend to categorise you and love to pity you. I was walking to work from school the other day, when one of ds's mum's pulled up and offered me a lift, which was nice, but the look on her face was a mix of head-tilt pity, and horror that I was walking in the rain. I am the ONLY mum at school with no car, but, you know, it's not that bad!
I really don't want anyone to pity me. God, how awful. Sometimes I pity married women once I have met their husbands!

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HorizontalRunningOnly · 07/01/2014 13:49

The women were awful to pick a fight with an already upset women who they didnt know - no question there.

I am a newly single mum and am getting tired of the 'oh isn't it nice to have Saturday to yourself'? No not really I get him up early dressed and ready and he is then returned to me at whatever time ex declares so can do anything much and I miss him - as someone else has said I'm the sole person on charge of my son apart from 4 days a month - it's not the same as having a partner however rubbish they may be.

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MeepMeepVrooooom · 07/01/2014 13:44

That is awful Misspixietrix I hope your DM is a lot better now.

I'm lucky that I have family close to me but I don't ask them to babysit apart from 1 hour a week to allow me to go on a driving lesson and I always let them choose the day and time that fits in with them. I hate imposing on people and generally don't feel the need but it must have been horrible for you to struggle to see your DM when she was poorly.

Freddie I agree 100%

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FreddieStarrAteMyHamster · 07/01/2014 13:28

You can't generalise, I know my mum found it a heck of a lot easier on her own than staying with my feckless, unsupportive, cheating father. Some of the men on the relationships forum on here seem more like an extra child to care for than a partner. if you look at a rosy picture then of course shared parenting is the ideal.

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Misspixietrix · 07/01/2014 13:23

OP my DCs spend more time with my DM than their a DF. She's always been (mostly) very helpful to me. Having been in that place herself she knows how hard it is. She recently fell very seriously ill and spent a long time in hospital. The battle trying to get the Ex to have them even for one evening in the Holidays so I could visit her for 30minutes was tough. Even offered to take them to his one night and he was 'busy' Hmm I can see where some people think they get child free weekend's from though. I can think of two SP friends off hand who either goes off with GM or the Ex practically every other week. I just don't think people should generalise that all SPs have such support readily available because they dont. I can see why a lot of people who basically do most of the work can see themselves as feeling like a SP. I can also see the view from the others that it isn't really as they have some relief for want of a better word coming. There's not usually someone on their way home to us/will be home at the weekend so we can 'clock off' in a sense neither.

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MeepMeepVrooooom · 07/01/2014 13:14

Misspixietrix Hearing everyone's stories makes me glad in a way that my ExH has absolutely nothing to do with DD anymore. It must be so hard explaining to your children why they can't go to stay with Daddy.

It really does make my blood boil when I hear about parents who make zero effort.

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Misspixietrix · 07/01/2014 13:13

OP I do see where your friend is coming from by the way. Can also see how the ladies can misconstrued what they heard.

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Misspixietrix · 07/01/2014 13:11

Child free weekends? What are those? I have a battle with my Ex everytime the DCs want to go to his. They're lucky if they get to stay once every 3months and even then that's for a maximum of 2 nights and one full day.

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MeepMeepVrooooom · 07/01/2014 13:04

chrome100 I've got to say this seems like an unusual set up. It's not many RP's (if that's what she is classed as) that have their children less than 50% of the week...

hermione I do agree it can be hard having a hostile ex, luckily mine doesn't bother me anymore and I always feel for women who are still having to deal with them as it is hugely stressful. I think I just feel sorry for any parent having a tough time and don't understand some attitude (especially those two nasty women)

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OBehaveMaeve · 07/01/2014 09:57

Mim78, good post.

And howlingtrap, yes, I think that's why some married women are resentful towards single mothers. They haven't the courage (yet) to ltb, and they see single mothers who seem to be more content, and that makes them cross! I have seen this. Even though, having left a bastard, I am very sympathetic to women in dreadful marriages. But in these situations, I'd tread very carefully, I wouldn't make it obvious I felt empathy for a respectable married woman when I'm a lowly single parent!

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hermionepotter · 07/01/2014 09:31

A lot of the time lps find it very difficult having to deal with a hostile ex on a weekly basis, and having to deal with the emotional side wrt the impact on dcs. There's a lot more to it than the practical 'weekend off' Hmm it's the emotional burden that's so draining imo.

Of course being married to a useless/abusive etc partner isn't better Confused but single parenting is a tough job in the long term. Also sadly there still seems to be a stigma to deal with/prejudice etc, at least where I live

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chrome100 · 07/01/2014 08:07

SIL is a single parent. PIL have the kids two nights a week, her ex DP has them at the weekends, she has a lot of spare time and has it easier than many parents who are still together, imho.

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MeepMeepVrooooom · 07/01/2014 07:35

Highho that is certainly the impression I get from what she has told me.

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highho1 · 07/01/2014 03:47

Op. I agree every situation is different. Those wmen were rude.
I also think if you have a co parent being unsupportive you could be worse off in relationship than out of it.
I know single parents who have great family support. One has a mum who babysits once a week so she can have a night out. Plus takes them so she can go on holiday. Another who uses the time without her dd to go away for weekends with her new man etc.
Both these people are probably getting more support than your friend.
I suspect your friend's dh creates more work than he does.

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Greentoothbrush · 07/01/2014 01:20

Being a single or in a relationship parent can be hard! Some single parents like it that way! And some are in relationships that drag them down and make life hard. I have been with my dcs dad in a DV marriage, a single parent with no help at all for two years, and now happily settled with new man.
With ex, it was hard. Yes he paid 70% of e bills! but he was an arsehole, none supporting and lazy! no interest in the kids.
On my own, I loved it! I loved the freedom, doing my own thing, pleasing the kids and being proud I had managed alone,and money was great. I had no "days off"for Two years, but the children being happy was my reward, so I was happy too.
Relief of being out of that relationship too!
Now I'm with dp, he helps, but I'm the "breadwinner", money is an issue. Now we have a few days a month "free" as ex pulled his finger out, but we are too skint to go anywhere, as paying off debts! But I have the love and support.

Each situation comes with is own pros and cons. Some People don't see it that way though.
Those parents were wrong, and looking at it wrong in my eyes. They also had no right to judge, or even get involved in a conversation that they weren't included in.
Your friend needs support, but it seems she has you to look out for her, luckily, so hopefully you can help her work through it.

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BillyBanter · 07/01/2014 00:47

Everyone's situation is slightly different. The women were rude to a woman who was in distress. Completely unnecessary.

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