to think it's wrong to leave a baby/toddler sleeping alone in a hotel room?

[strawberry34]

When you have a monitor and are still in the premises?my friend says she does it when on holiday, she goes to the bar/restaurant and responds to the monitor if her 2yo dd wakes, I was shocked and said I wouldn't ever want to, I stay in the room and read a book/have a bath. Aibu to think what she's doing is wrong? I don't want to refer to famous cases but to me there's too much risk.

[Spero]

I have read worse.

But that's a pretty good example.

[prettybird]

I don't think you're even in the ball park. I think I'll need to sit on the fence on this one. Either that or decide to go after the low hanging fruit. Either way, you have been punching way above your weight.

(ex-sales person who worked for an organisation which loved to use clichés)

[Spero]

Damn you all.

Maybe netmums will show more appreciation.

[yamsareyammy]

[Spero]

Well yams I think that is quite the most ridiculous assertion thus far on this thread.



But in all seriousness I always forget how poorly humour translates on Internet, either that or I am just crap at it.

I am constantly being accused of being angry and upset when I thought I had just made a delightfully witty aside.

Sigh.

Back to work.

[yamsareyammy]

Dont think you are as good as Buffy with her jargon btw!

[yamsareyammy]

I do presume you are joking btw! Dont know for sure, I am not that good with jokes, as my nearest and dearest can testify!

[Spero]

That is an accusation at once both unfair and untrue, made without any or any sufficient consideration of the evidence before you. Kindly retract forthwith.

[yamsareyammy]

In all seriousness, I hope that the op is still reading this.
And wish that this last part of the thread, was at the beginning of the thread.

[yamsareyammy]

I was going to mention jargon speak Spero

[prettybird]

You're sounding more and more like a lawyer with every post Spero

[Spero]

I am in fact supposed to be WORKING or at the very least re-writing the kitchen health and safety policy in light of yesterday's appalling slip up re correct placing of open milk carton, so I am going to have to turn my computer off now as I clearly have no self control at all.

[Spero]

May I qualify my earlier answer to say that disagreeing with me does set up a presumption that you are in fact wrong, but I may grudgingly allow you to rebut that presumption on provision of very compelling evidence.

[Spero]

Yes, I think that would be fair to say. If you already have a history, then even further minor slip ups are likely to be viewed more harshly.

This may well be fair enough. But as ever, it depends so much on the circumstances of each individual case.

[yamsareyammy]

Yes, love Spero's answer Buffy

[yamsareyammy]

Ok.
So to answer the op better, the op's friend is taking more of a risk, legally wise, if she is already known to social services?
Because if something did happen, and she was already known to social services, there could be serious repercussions.
I think I meant, untested, as in untested monitor wise. Not sure now. Cant quite remember.

[Spero]

Prettybird - quite a chilling example of law of unintended consequences. By trying to save our children from dangers of cars we actually make them MORE likely to die by refusing to allow any opportunity to develop road sense in a relatively safe environment.

[Spero]

Buffy, it should be clear to you that I have NO time for your feminist whimsy, what with running a v tight ship at home and constantly contributing insightful and provocative postings to various on line debates.

Yams - in the long run it may have been the right decision to remove my client's child. She was finding it hard. I just thought using this five min trip to get cigs as the trigger to removal was unjustified.

I would have done the same.

SW are just human like the rest of us, subject to the same prejudices and quirks. They should be better trained than most of us and try to put prejudices to one side but no person, or system is perfect, just as no risk is ever entirely absent.

And as I said, the Judge supported the decision to remove. So they were not permitted to make a unilateral and permanent decision. So I don't accept decisions are 'untested'.

And just because I disagree with it doesn't make it wrong.

(that was quite hard to type)

[yamsareyammy]

Spero. So it may well be one rule and judgement for one parent who does it, and one rule and judgement for another.
It seems to be a bit untested, court wise?