Am not sure what goes through some people's minds? WHY??
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to be pissed off at seeing a pregnant woman smoking yesterday?
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topsi · 20/05/2013 18:59
OP posts:
KhaosandKalamity ·
22/05/2013 15:35
YANBU to be mad about it, I think it would be hard not to. But there is sweet FA you can do about it so YABU to dwell on it. I once knew a woman who figured because she gave up coffee and booze then she could smoke as much as she liked, her mother is a doctor. Not much to do but shoot them a massively disappointed look, guilt trips from strangers can work. I was inspired to quit by a young boy (4 or 5) who walked past (I had tried to hide my ciggy and blow the smoke away from him because I hate letting kids see me smoke, even strangers) and said to his mummy "that lady is smoking, she shouldn't do that it will kill her" 
EatenByZombies ·
21/05/2013 21:18
Yes! I have coaxed a blush from Worra ! My day is made! 
As an intelligent, slightly overweight fat person, I'd rather people just came out and said "overweight"/"fat" people than base stuff on BMI, because my BMI would put me into the obese category, even though my doctor says I'm not, I'm just a little bigger than average. The word obese gets thrown around a lot these days and it annoys me because obesity means having too much body fat. It is not the same as being overweight, which means weighing too much, because a person may be overweight from extra muscle, bone, or water, as well as from having too much fat. People seem to think the two words are interchangeable.
(I also understood what you were trying to get at :) )
WorraLiberty ·
21/05/2013 20:34
I know what you're saying EatenByZombies but to put it bluntly and to leave the BMI out of it...the nation is getting fatter and fatter and many of those people are pregnant. Being fat and pregnant can cause risks to both the baby and the mother.
Being pregnant and smoking also causes risks.
I didn't want to be this blunt
EatenByZombies ·
21/05/2013 20:18
I never said it wasn't used. I said it's not accurate. Although the athlete argument is overused, it's true. My given example uses actors. Tom Cruise is not and has never been obese during his time on screen so how do you explain that one? BMI uses a fixed formula and does not take different variables into account like muscles and adipose tissue in relation to the rest of someone's body.
To be honest, people can believe what they want, but when the creator himself says it's not accurate and one shouldn't rely on BMI alone then I think we should listen to him 
As I also said, BMI is an indicator. Nobody's wrong for saying "people with a BMI of over 30 are more likely to have problems with XYZ during pregnancy" or "people with a BMI of over 30 are often found to have problems with XYZ" or anything else that points to the fact that that category is often faced with certain problems, but it shouldn't be used alone because it's not accurate enough. The fact that the NHS has it on forms doesn't mean it's any more credible. There are, and will always be, people who believe it works. There are, and will always be, government bodies and institutes that use it, and that's fine. But the NHS don't rely on BMI alone to tell someone whether they're obese or not.
BMI is not accurate enough to lean on solely as evidence for obesity which is why I thing the previously mentioned argument is invalid because it's not drawing on proper medical evidence, but a formula thought of by a statistician.
:)
WorraLiberty ·
21/05/2013 19:45
I have proved your point by discussing your post on a discussion forum? 
Are you saying that women have to agree with other women just because they both have vaginas? Because that's how it's coming across.
Do you agree with Coleen Rooney's choice of name/spelling? No you don't. In fact if I remember rightly, you stated 'poor kid' at one point and yet you're both women.
As much as I don't agree with the OP pointing the finger of judgement at a pregnant woman she knows nothing about, I actually think this thread has thrown up an interesting debate.
There has been no nastiness/name calling....just discussion and opposing views.
That's why your post came across as dramatic.
MomsNetCurtains ·
21/05/2013 19:23
No I'm not dramatic Worra. Quite the opposite in RL. But you wouldn't know that as you don't know me. 
I'm aware this is a discussion forum, hence why I felt quite open about having a wee rant; I had a moan as it felt as though women were constantly against each other on here and as it turns out I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
Jamie What has my thread on the diabolical naming of a child got to do with anything? Have I attacked someone?
If I have I am unaware of that?
On the plus side, the pair of you have just proved my point about MN and the females that frequent it constantly. I'm looking at you Worra.
WorraLiberty ·
21/05/2013 19:08
MonsNet, dramatic much?!?
This is as discussion forum and we're discussing something.
"By God, I would love to go back to the 70's or 80's without this one-up-man ship. Women with a common goal arguing amongst themselves - this is what men have wet dreams over."
I have no idea what men you're talking about, but most of the men I knew back then would knock one out to a porn magazine.
Not to women stating opposing views
MomsNetCurtains ·
21/05/2013 19:02
And breathe......
King and Solari I could hug you both right now. I was just having a rant really; I didn't expect anyone to understand or even know what I was on about!
crashdoll ·
21/05/2013 18:45
"it was an example of why BMI doesn't work so don't try and twist it."
I was agreeing with you on one point which is that it doesn't work....for athletes! Don't get your knickers in a twist because I called you on your silly point. As a general rule, BMI gives a guide for the average person.
KingRollo ·
21/05/2013 18:23
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