to be angry at facebook response
brummiegirl1 · 18/04/2013 18:48
I reported a photo on facebook that i saw on facebook. It is a photo of men around a music deck outside. The slogan says "hold on bitch, i need to drop the bass" and the man is pushing the woman's face away.
I found it very bad taste and aggressive towards women. I know it's meant to be a joke but i don't see how that can be funny.
I have just got a respose back from facebook saying that the picture will not be removed
Thanks for your report. We reviewed the photo you reported, but found it doesn't violate Facebook's Community Standard on graphic violence, which includes depicting harm to someone or something, threats to the public's safety, or theft and vandalism.
I complained about it under the violence category as there were no other appropriate headings. I replied saying i was not happy as how can they class a photo where a woman is called a "BITCH" and pushed in the face acceptable?
Sorry but feel so mad with it.
BeerTricksPotter · 18/04/2013 18:55
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CajaDeLaMemoria · 18/04/2013 18:55
Facebook is absolutely covered in pages that glorify rape, trying to cause women to miscarry, domestic violence, etc.
They will not remove them, regardless of how many times they are reported, unless their advertisers complain.
That tells you everything you need to know about Facebook. They play for profit, and you've got no chance of getting the image removed. It sounds positively mild compared to some of the atrocious things I've seen on there.
SarahAndFuck · 18/04/2013 18:56
Facebook do not care.
I reported an image of a man pushing a woman head first down the stairs, it captured her mid fall and in mid air, with the caption "Next time don't get pregnant" on it and Facebook decided that this was alternative humour rather than graphic violence.
brummiegirl1 · 18/04/2013 18:57
I didn't know you could hide things on facebook. It's not a case of being offended about trivial things (even though i don't think it is trivial as it sends a message that it's ok to talk about women in that manner) it's the fact they think its acceptable to leave it up.
HeadFairy · 18/04/2013 18:59
Get in touch with Everyday Sexism. They're running a campaign to get advertisers to stop advertising with FB because their ads often appear alongside pages depicting violence against women and FB won't guarantee where they put ads. It's quite a high profile campaign, if you're on Twitter, they're on @everydaysexism
MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 18/04/2013 19:00
Someone on MN posted this the other day. (I can't remember who it was now, but thank you I have forwarded it on to a few people now) Its well worth a read and it might make you think twice before reporting things that you find offensive but you could really just hide and forget about.
MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 18/04/2013 19:20
Oops I didn't see that it had been mentioned sorry Tee
It really does give a different outlook to the things that people should be reporting.
I should probably say THE LINK I POSTED ABOVE COULD BE A TRIGGER FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT CONTAINS SOME DETAILS OF CHILD ABUSE
Skiffle · 18/04/2013 19:57
What a weird article MissyMoo. I can see why it's an awful job being that facebook person (people) but how bizarre to blame people for complaining about things they see to Facebook, it's not like they're ringing 999 to complain is it. And saying "X is so much worse than Y" doesn't mean we should still ignore Y (not directing that are you Missy, just at the writer).
MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 18/04/2013 20:14
I see what you are saying Skiffle but I think that a lot of the things reported on FB is just down to what different people find funny, in which case just delete the person sharing it or block the picture there is no need for a lot of it to be censored.
I also didn't realise until I read that that the FB moderators are often dealing with crimes in progress or that are about to be committed so it is a bit like 1000 people calling 999 because someone gave them a funny look and there being genuine emergencies slipping through the net because of it.
Surely its better to try and educate the people sharing the odd sexist or offensive picture than to just censor it and have them still hold their views unchallenged anyway?
Skiffle · 18/04/2013 20:20
MissyMoo I agree with you that the reports mentioned in the article are a waste of time, honestly who complains because they don't like the look of a fish. But the things mentioned higher up in this thread I wouldn't consider a waste of time at all, pictures of and incitement to violence should not be allowed on Facebook and indeed they claim it isn't, but clearly that's not the case.
The problem is Facebook has no actual responsibility - it's a commercial organisation not a public service. If the shareholders actually cared, they would employ many more people to deal with the complaints so that they could deal with them appropriately and respond to crimes if necessary. But clearly they couldn't care less, the same as any other large profit making organisation.
Also, surely it takes hardly any more time to block a truly offensive picture than to send an email to the complainer saying it doesn't breach the guidelines. They just don't care.
MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 18/04/2013 20:55
I just googled the picture the OP was talking about, and tbh, it could be someone messing about, it could be violent, or it could be set up, FB are right that it doesn't depict graphic violence and it is a big possibility that it doesn't depict violence at all.
I don't really know how it works with regards to sending emails out, I would imagine it would just be a quick click, put them all into a folder then send a mass email out rather than actual individual replies. They probably get thousands of reports about the same things per day so they wouldn't have to look a lot of the time.
With some pictures there would be no arguement that they are offensive and they would be removed, with others it is just down to levels of tolerence and FB are pretty careful about censorship from what I know of them (which admittedly isn't that much because I'm not on it).
I agree with the sentiment of the article though, if you can't handle people saying the odd thing you may find offensive then FB isn't the place for you it has millions of people on it who will all have a different sense of humour so imo if it isn't illegal then it shouldn't really be censored however much I disagree with some of the things I have read about being on there.
DaffodilAdams · 18/04/2013 21:07
That article is shit. It is not an excuse to leave up threats of violence against women, threats of rape etc because there is worse out there. They seem to manage to find time (and apparent concern) to remove photos of women breast feeding or women showing a nipple or women protesting against the misogyny shown to them, but not pages inciting child abuse or rape.
TheRealFellatio · 19/04/2013 04:42
Facebook is like a mother in law... smile and nod
haha - yes, so true! I have almost given up commenting on anything on fb altogether recently. Among my 'friends' I have some angry left wing frothers who never let the truth get in the way of a good story, and some bosom-hoiking hang 'em and flog 'em types, who I suspect stand up extra straight and look all misty-eyed when they hear the national anthem.
Someone on here once described me as 'a beacon of good sense floating on a sea of madness' and if my fb feed is a microcosm of real life then she was right. I seem to be the only sane one left.
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