To admire MT's strength of character

[Meandmarius]

Ok, politics aside here. It is clear that her policies completely divided the nation, she made some good decisions and made some mistakes. Has there ever been a PM who has completely united an entire nation?

However, no-one can deny her utter commitment and passion for her job and country and what she believed was right. Her strength of character and presence gave her and Britain a leading role on the world stage.

AIBU in thinking that being a strong leader, thoroughly committed to a set of beliefs was better than being an insipid one?

[ParadiseChick]

lay you clicked on a thread which clearly states what it's about just to complain about another thread being started!

[hmmm]

[trashcanjunkie]

Ah well, we can agree to differ eh feminine

My official opinion of MT is that she betrayed her sex on behalf of her class, killed the country from the inside, and even now we're suffering her legacy.

[Feminine]

trash

[CloudsAndTrees]

YANBU.

The fact that she was a woman that got to the top over thirty years ago has to be admired, even if nothing else about her is. No one can argue that wasn't a huge achievement.

[cardibach]

flatpack I don't think you are reading my posts. My point was exactly that sharing/kindness etc are ham traits, yet right wingers abandon them outside the home.
With regard to South Africa, the world was indeed complicated (I was there, please don't patronise me) but the boycott of SA was pretty solid so others obviously saw that as clear cut. 'Refs under the bed' might scare you (why?) but clearly weren't MT's biggest concern.

[flatpackhamster]

cardibach

flatpack I don't think you are reading my posts. My point was exactly that sharing/kindness etc are ham traits, yet right wingers abandon them outside the home.

I am. My point is that right wingers don't abandon them outside the home. They practice them with far greater assiduity than the Left does. The reason that is the case is that right-wingers don't say "other people (ie the taxpayer) must pay to fix X, Y and Z." Left-wingers do. And what happens when the taxpayer picks up the tab is that, when the state does everything, people just say "I don't need to help my neighbours/village/town, I'll wait for the government to do it." That is corrosive.

With regard to South Africa, the world was indeed complicated (I was there, please don't patronise me) but the boycott of SA was pretty solid so others obviously saw that as clear cut.

It's funny how so many people think I'm patronising them. It isn't my intent. However so many people seem to be so ignorant and forgetful, I find it's best to remind people of the reality of the world we lived in.

'Refs under the bed' might scare you (why?) but clearly weren't MT's biggest concern.

Assume you meant 'reds'. Refs under the bed would frighten me. 10,000 nuclear warheads pointed at the UK didn't ever give you a moment's pause for concern?

Why weren't they her biggest concern? She backed Pinochet because he was anti-communist. She backed SA and Rhodesia because they were anti-communist. You only need to look at her speeches to know that socialism and its wicked influence was her biggest concern. It was also her greatest victory.