To be horrified at giving a 3 yr old crisps, chocolate biscuits, cheesy bites...

[starofastorath]

....at 10 in the morning? After having sugary breakfast cereals?

[PickledInAPearTree]

Some people on this thread make Gillian mckeith look like a pleasant prospect.

[loismustdieatyahoodotcom]

Got to agree with trixymalixy on this. I think unless you have a child with additional dietary issues or complex health needs you would be or but when its your child its the norm and there are good reasons for it. you can always fix eating habits at a later stage but not health complications caused by having an underweight child.

[trixymalixy]

Well funnily enough the consultants exact words were that after passing a food challenge we were to " commit to giving cake every day to maintain tolerance" and therefore stay out of hospital. Remain sceptical if you like, it's the absolute truth. Yet again showing your ignorance.

The dietician's advice was to give pudding after each meal to try and boost weight.

Your post was a dig at parents of children with food issues. Claiming your approach to your child's diet had avoided any food issues or phobias implied that parents had somehow caused their child's issues. I was merely pointing out that very often there were underlying health issues that were out of the parents control, in my case allergies, others on this thread have SN.

[loismustdieatyahoodotcom]

Tbh the op never stated that the child had any health issues but I would hate to be judged like that knowing that i do what i do for the right reasons. My DS weighs 17.2 lb at 16 months old, i think unless you know every detail of the parent and childs life then you just should judge. When DS health issues are address i'll address his diet untill then i'll follow the advice i think is best.

[Toadinthehole]

trixymalixy Fri 25-Jan-13 19:17:30

I know this thread is (thankfully) dying now, plus I'm losing the will to contribute further, but I will respond to you.

You seem to imply that you regularly have to give your child a regular flow of chocolate biscuits to keep him/her out of hospital. I don't think you can blame me for being sceptical.

In any event, if your child has severe allergies he/she is out of the ordinary run: I fail to see why you think my post has any relevance to you.

[Toadinthehole]

Clippedphoenix

I agree. Certain people on this thread seem ultra-defensive.

Not giving children sweets etc on a daily basis is quite a normal strategy where I live. Those who are offended by this strategy ought to lighten up a bit.

[BooBumpDaddyandMe]

star I'm with you on this! Every parent makes their choices & every child is an individual but if you don't give the crappy ( it's my opinion thanks) stuff on a regular basis it won't become habit. I have friends whose idea of lunch for their kids is crisps/sausage rolls/chocolate etc & I do think it effects them - sore bums from acidic pooh, super fussiness when it comes to proper meals etc.
Trouble is your friend is entitled to make her choices about her DCs diets and there's nothing you can do about it without sounding like a busy body or that you're being judgy - which I suppose you are but rightly so.
The "children's diet" debate will run and run!

[Moominsarescary]

Think you! Tbh my cervix and hip are getting worse so it's a bit of a relief to see the end in sight

[ClippedPhoenix]

Get over yourself and stop judging is what I say.

[PickledInAPearTree]

Oh thats not bad though as we enter rib cracking phase! Good luck..

[Moominsarescary]

There's dog poo threads, I must have missed them. Cat poo on garden threads I've seen.

Yep still here, csection booked for Friday though, bit earlier than I thought it would be!

[PickledInAPearTree]

Snacks dog poo cat poo and breastfeeding, when will I learn.

You still around Moonmin? Me too and I am in PAIN I feel explody.

[Moominsarescary]

Wow this thread took a bit of a turn didn't it

[PickledInAPearTree]

It was mooted as a solution toad. However that poster has given up on us now.

So yes it has been said.

[Toadinthehole]

Who is actually suggesting a complete ban on crisps and sweets? I'm not. The only point I've made is that making them part of a child's routine diet is likely to lessen their ability to enjoy other, healthier, types of food. That is all.

[CarriedAwayAnnie]

Poor child

Banning certain foods is as crazy as offering crisps, chocolate biscuits and cheesy bites at 10am.

[PickledInAPearTree]

Hurrah for Judith.

[JudithOfThePeace]

Countrykitten - I think it is quite strange to say that all snacking is a bad habit. Snacking (healthily) can help stabilise blood sugar and help keep you mentally alert throughout the day. This is why schools offer snacks mid-morning. Last week, my son's favourite mid-morning snack at school was a carrot and a glass of milk!

I think your rather extreme attitude to food (where all snacking is bad and a single burger does actual harm) is not actually as healthy as you believe it to be. It is my aim to teach my children to make healthy food choices, but also to encourage them to enjoy food without guilt.

I also think that is the aim of most mums - and where the 'everything in moderation' maxim comes from. It doesn't mean that for every apple a child eats, it's also ok to have a burger - but a burger every now and again is not going to rot them from the inside out.

I once went to a children's birthday party where every child sat together and ate a piece of chocolate cake. Every child except one, who wasn't allowed chocolate. Not because of an allergy (I knew mother and child well) but because the mother wouldn't let her daughter eat anything 'unhealthy'. She was literally made to sit there watching the others eat chocolate cake. I refuse to believe that an occasional piece of chocolate cake at a party - however much saturated fat and E numbers it contains - will do more harm to any child than that. She'll probably shove chocolate cake down her neck at triple speed when she's older.

[insancerre]

I confuse myself sometimes
I meant that just giving them fruit and so called healthy food is bollocks

[CarriedAwayAnnie]

Exactly Bruffin - everything in moderation.

insancerre - I have no idea what you are trying to say tbh. Your first post implies giving them fresh fruit is bollocks. I was lost after that.

[insancerre]

carriedawayannie you are putting words into my mouth
I didn't say that children need sweets. in fact, I never even mentioned sweets.
I said that children need calories. Restricting what they eat to only fruit or healthy alternatives, is not necessary- children can cope with the odd biscuit or packet of crisps and it won't do them any harm.

[bruffin]

So you agrervits about the whole diet over a period of time rather than looking at one item of food.
A sweet as part of an overall balanced diet is not a problem. If they were just eating sweets all day or a rice cake all day and nothing else then you don't have a balanced diet.

[CarriedAwayAnnie]

Not with a spread of Houmous and Philly though. Which was my point.

[bruffin]

Bt you also suggested rice cakes which are basically empty calories.

[CarriedAwayAnnie]

"Children need calories and all this rice cakes or fresh fruit for snacks is baloney"

It was this comment I was responding to. It implies that children 'need' sweets or crisps as they need calories.

Which is ridiculous. My point was that, yes they do need calories but they do not need empty calories.

Which isn't say they can't have empty calories, just they don't need them.

Which is why I suggested Houmous - it's a good food for children as it's calorific but healthy.