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AIBU?

to think that two children just looks a bit too much like hard work?!

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Bullets · 03/12/2012 19:41

DS turned two in October and is such a lovely little boy, very kind and caring, I really enjoy his company. Six weeks in and no sign of any terrible twos yet, plus he's finally started going to bed at bedtime, staying there all night, and getting up at a reasonable hour, so he's okay with one of our mums babysitting meaning DH and I can have the odd night out.

DH and I always planned to have two kids, but are having a serious case of not-wanting-to-rock-the-boat-itus. I've recently started a new job that I'm really enjoying, three days a week, and childcare is all covered by DH and grandmas, so DS is very happy with this arrangement too, and our finances are healthy enough to start saving for a holiday. Life is good!

I feel happy, fulfilled and well-balanced.

We've just got back from a weekend staying with friends who have an 18 month old and 5 year old, and without wanting to sound too wet, it just all seemed a bit too much like hard work! The parents were arguing over who did what, the kids were fighting over their toys and which parent they wanted to do something for them. I don't think anyone was enjoying themselves!

AIBU to think that one child might be enough? For me and DH as well as for DS - is it fair on DS not to give him a brother or sister? Things got pretty rocky with DH when DS was young and not sleeping or feeding well, we're back on solid ground now but I don't know if our relationship could take it again.

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RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 04/12/2012 12:16

Whenever there are threads on "what's the ideal size family or the ideal age gap" I always like to chip in with "whatever's ideal for you" and although it's a bit of a smug platitude, I really do mean it.

Like 2madboys I'm really enjoying having two- I have a DS who is 2.3 and a DD who is 4mo. I love seeing the relationship between them develop - DS is really lovely with her and she is so excited when she sees him in the morning. However, I know that's 'nuff kids, mainly because pre-schoolers are limiting and I'm looking forward to things like ski holidays again. I read the "I have two and desperately want another" threads and think "Are you crazy???" but loads of people love having three, so it's what suits you and your life circumstances really.

However, reading your OP I can also understand why it makes sense for you to stop at one. Re the sibling thing, well some people get on with their siblings and some people hate them, so it's just luck of the draw whether a sibling is a positive influence in your life or not. Perhaps it helps that DH and I both have had good relationships with all our siblings, now and as kids.

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sieglinde · 04/12/2012 12:20

I have a 5-year gap and that's been great for us. No need to rush to a decision. I was an only child, though, and it has biiig limitations.

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NoWayNoHow · 04/12/2012 12:41

I'm also quite pleased to see people owning up to being "too lazy" for a second! Grin

This probably describes (loosely) mine and DH's attitdue. I know that DS's incredibly strong personality is going to make him the most amazing, driven adult, but he is HARD work, and he pushes us to the limits of our patience. I absolutely love and adore everything that he is, but I'm not going to kid myself into believing that I could cope with another. For a start, I know our (DH and me) relationship would suffer based on how we have fared when we have gone through some very difficult times with DS.

I must say, I do find this idea of bringing whole other people into the world just to help with old age homes and funeral arrangements utterly bizarre! Seems like such a strange reason to create a new life form, someone with their own personality, life, dreams, goals, relegated to the post of "emotional support for existing child". I'ts especially strange to me when you consider ALL the different permeatations of how a sibling relationship may end up... I know a lot of friends who don't even speak to their siblings, so they'd be of no help at all!

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SnowWide · 04/12/2012 13:13

Hear hear!! For the concept of a sibling to give emotional support for existing child! Utterly bizarre...

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takataka · 04/12/2012 13:24

its not 'utterly bizarre' at all

like noway says, there are many different permeatations of how a sibling relationship may work out; and many work out fantastic...

my sister and I do provide emotional support for each other

I know lots of big families (my mum is 1 of 7) who are very close

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BartimaeusNeedsMoreSleep · 04/12/2012 13:37

I agree that whatever number of children suits your family is personal and dependant on many things.

The only thing I will say though in reply to some PP posts is that having a sibling does not exclude you from making strong, life-long friendships outside of the family.

My brother and I were very close as children, but less close as adults, though we're still in regular contact. We have very different interests but it doesn't matter. He has a fantastic set of friends that he is very close to and this is great. I have a couple of good friends and DH Wink.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 04/12/2012 13:49

Hi Bullets,

I'd say: if you're not sure, don't. It may all turn out fine, and you'll have an easy second baby who gets on famously with your DS, but as I see it the chances of something not working out are that much greater. What if your DC can't stand each other? What if you have an incredibly high need, high maintenance baby and end up resenting him/her for destroying the close bond you now have with your DS? What if things are 'OK', but it turns out to be just one stress too many on your relationship with your DH?

Sorry to be all doom and gloom - sometimes you need the viewpoint of a miserable, pessimistic fecker. My sister and I were at one another's throats throughout our childhood and often drove my mum to tears. DH and his DSis hated one another, and pretty much still do. My dad and his brother never really got on. None of my friends got on with their siblings. I know someone at work who has a good relationship with her siblings, which does make me a bit wistful, but in my experience it goes wrong more often than not. I've also seen too many couples split up after #2 came along. We're stopping at one, in case you were wondering Grin

Sorry! I'll fuck off now.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 04/12/2012 13:56

PS This made me think of a thread I read a while back, maybe in 'Parenting' by a woman who seemed to bitterly regret her second - the DD was a really challenging, unhappy baby who was making them all miserable. There was one bit I remember because it was just so sad, something like: I'm tired of pushing the buggy along in the pissing rain, with DD screaming because she won't sleep, and DS whining, and me wanting to throw her under a bus because I can't stand it any more.

I don't know if she's still around, and if things have improved. Does anyone know what happened to her? Strikes me she'd be the ultimate authority on the risks associated with That Decision.

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SnowWide · 04/12/2012 14:03

"Throw DD under a bus?!" She just may have been hounded out of Mumsnet, poor thing Xmas Grin

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 04/12/2012 14:07

Grin I think people were very sympathetic - though would have been a different story if she'd posted in AIBU by mistake!

She came across as very nice, despite the bus, and understandably at the end of her tether. Wish I could remember her name.

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FestiveDigestive · 04/12/2012 14:13

I found that going from one to two was SO much easier than expected. We had a 5 year gap (maybe that helped?) but I wish we'd done it sooner. In fact, DD slotted so easily into our family life that DH and I soon made the unexpected decision to try for a third. Before DD arrived I'd never imagined that I would even consider a third. The third turned out to be twins.. due quite soon! So I'll soon find out what it is like to move from 2 to 4 Grin

I just can't think of any negatives at all that have come from having a second, only really positive things. I still say to DH that I just can't believe how much nicer it is having two - I really feel like we are a 'family' when we're all together, rather than just two parents and one child. But, maybe the biggish age gap helps as DS & DD get on brilliantly & it is lovely to see them playing together. She was also a very easy newborn who slept through the night relatively quickly so we never had that "newborn exhaustion" phase at all.

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QueenofNightmares · 04/12/2012 14:15

I felt exactly the same, I still feel the same way sometimes and I'm 20 weeks pregnant with number 2! Grin There will be a 10 year age gap which is massive I know but I was 17 with DD and I wasn't ready at all for her let alone 2 of them. I think the age gap will help us a lot and DD is very very excited.

Don't rule out the possibility that you may change your mind I was adamant I wouldn't change mine until DH was booked in for the snip Blush

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BeaWheesht · 04/12/2012 14:21

We have a 3 year 8 month age gap - ds first and then dd. They have always adores each other but have started fighting recently at 2 and 5.

It's more than double the work IMO especially when they're ill- then it is utterly hellish!

However, the thing that swung it for me was that theyd have each other when me and dh are old or dead. Hmm

It's been hard though that's for sure.

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Procrastinating · 04/12/2012 14:31

I thought this thread was going to say two children looks a bit too tame!

I have three, when one is away (doesn't matter which one) it is easy and peaceful.

One is a shock, I found going from 1-2 fairly easy, but 2-3 was the killer. But they are older now (7, 5, 3) and lovely together. The bit when they are little and very demanding only lasts a short time OP, don't make decisions based only on that.

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Cantbelieveitsnotbutter · 04/12/2012 14:35

We have 1 and are all really happy. I wouldn't rule out no 2, but I think we'll stick at 1.

What works for you doesn't another

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2monkeybums · 04/12/2012 15:11

The first 8 months or so of having two was pretty easy compared to how i had imagined but then Ds2 started to crawl/play with Ds1 toys and its steadily got harder and harder ever since. But I know there is light at the end of the tunnel and one day they will run off at soft play together or go swimming on holiday together and leave me to drink coffee/gin and it would have all been worth it.

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socharlotte · 04/12/2012 15:17

3 to 4 was the hardest for me, but that might be because DC4 was a screamer!!

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SlowlorisIncognito · 04/12/2012 16:32

I don't think you should have another child because you think your son might want a brother or a sister. I am an only child, and it is quite interesting to hear how a few of my friends/exs (mostly older brothers) actually slightly resent their younger siblings in some ways. I don't think they would ever say this to someone inside their family, especially not the sibling in question, but they see how their lives might have been different had their sibling not been born. Conversely, I know some siblings who are very close, even with a larger age gap.

Being an only child meant I had a lot more oppourtunities as a child, and as a young adult, because my parents were able to offer me a significant amount of support during university, giving me lifts to activities and giving me lifts to my first saturday job and so on. I think having a sibling can obviously be nice, but being an only taught me to enjoy me own company, which I think is valueable in itself.

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FieryGingerBeer · 04/12/2012 20:20

I became a parent of two this year. We have DS1 who is five, and DS2 who is eight months. They adore each other (for now) and it is lovely to see them together.

However, two is more than twice the work of one. It's been stressful at times. I'm back to work soon and really have no idea how we will manage. I'm doing all the child related tasks at the moment, and well over half the housework (which is fine as I am at home all day) but I honestly think DH has no idea how much more work it is, and he is in for a big shock next month.

Horses for courses, if you don't want another, don't have another. It looks like hard work because it is hard work Grin

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Bullets · 05/12/2012 13:37

I keep popping back on to read all your replies, so reassuring to know other people feel the same!

jesus everything you said is exactly what I've been thinking - too many "what ifs" and unknowns, especially when we know we're already the happiest we've ever been! Thank you all for being so honest.

Had a chat with DH last night and we've agreed to carry on as we are the three of us, and review things every six months or so. If we feel something's missing / a real desire for number two, then we'll hop to it!

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naughtymummy · 05/12/2012 14:16

Just returned to thread. I am interested how many people seem to think how well siblings get on is down to chance.

My Dm was very open about how she did things when dsis came along to minimise problems and offered me loads of advice when I had dc2.

Now it may be chance but dsis and I couldn't be closer (to the extent that others including Dm can be a bit jealous). I think I am too close to see it but others tell me my 2 are very close.

I have always thought this was by design. Would like to hear what others think.

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ClairesTravellingCircus · 05/12/2012 14:43

naughtymummy I think there are things you can do to minise impact, sibling jealousy etc, but ultimately whether they'll become best friends or not is down to personalities.

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Bullets · 05/12/2012 15:03

naughtmummy interested to hear what sort of things your mum and you did???

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Bullets · 05/12/2012 15:06

I also think it might be easier to get on when your sibling is the same sex as you??

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