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AIBU?

To ask my children's pre-school not to let them play outside

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AitchDee · 01/12/2012 12:44

My twins attend a local preschool for three mornings a week. Since they started I have had issues with them arriving home at lunch time with soaking wet sleeves and trousers where they have done outside water play, and hands that are red raw from being cold and wet.

On Thursday upon dropping them off, we were told not to take coats/hats/gloves off as they were going o play in the school field next door. I raised my eyebrows at the time as it really was a very cold, frosty morning.

A hour later I got a phone call to say my twins needed collecting as one was very poorly and falling asleep/eyes rolling in his head, and the other 'had come out in sympathy' and was crying hysterically.

I collected them and brought them home, but I think they we're just utterly freezing. They were absolutely fine the rest of the day. All the other children were playing happily back in the warm so it was only mine.

I'm not sure if I am just being precious. They do love playing outside, even in freezing cold water and wet sand, no matter the weather, but I think their bodies use find it a bit much. They were born very early, and only weighed 1lb 3oz at birth but to look at them now they have caught up.

Would I look a twat asking preschool to keep them indoors until spring? Maybe my twins just need a bit of toughening up? They will be three in January if that makes a difference.

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Sirzy · 01/12/2012 23:01

That should say 2 in 1 fleece and waterproof

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AThingInYourLife · 01/12/2012 23:38

"I don't, but I do expect people to take their kids out somewhere other than nursery over the winter months , so it's not "just" for nursery is it?"

There are plenty of "places other than nursery" in the UK that don't require dressing children in waterproofs, thermals and outdoor gear.

The vast majority of parents have no need if such clothes for their toddlers and small children.

Making expensive outdoor gear a requirement for attending nursery is a nonsense.

Kitting a family out in the way you describe, even from Aldi and Lidl, would be beyond many families.

Unless you are quite dedicated to outdoor pursuits there is no need for the clothes you are describing in a temperate climate such as ours.

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AThingInYourLife · 01/12/2012 23:45

:o

Haha! Now it's just turned into outdoor boasty thread.

Wow, you're all so great.

Let's make all families share your priorities, regardless of their means.

There's no poverty in the UK, right?

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baublesandbaileys · 01/12/2012 23:51

AThing no I don't believe that the "vast majority" of UK parents only do house-car-otherindoorvenue-car-house over the winter months. The vast majority get a bit of fresh air even if its just walking to the shops/park! I'm not talking about mountaineering, just going out for a toddle! that isn't an activity exclusively kept to spring and summer for most!

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baublesandbaileys · 01/12/2012 23:52

you're contradicting yourself there, if people are in poverty then how are they never outdoors? everyone has cars huh? outdoor gear is considerably cheaper than cars

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natation · 01/12/2012 23:54

Spending £30 or £40 on outdoor clothes is nothing when comparing it to the amount that is spent in the first few years of a child's life. It's all about priorities isn't it?

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natation · 01/12/2012 23:59

I suppose baubles there are families (like ours) who do live without cars though. We do it for financial reasons, but I'd never compromise on clothing the children, I just resource wisely.

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AThingInYourLife · 02/12/2012 00:03

"The vast majority get a bit of fresh air even if its just walking to the shops/park! I'm not talking about mountaineering, just going out for a toddle! that isn't an activity exclusively kept to spring and summer for most!"

That's my point. You don't need thermals and/or waterproofs to go to the park.

"It's all about priorities isn't it?"

Yes, it is.

And not all families want to prioritise outdoor gear in a climate where you don't need it day to day.

It's a perfectly valid choice.

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baublesandbaileys · 02/12/2012 00:05

"That's my point. You don't need thermals and/or waterproofs to go to the park"

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your park have a micro climate that has different weather to your local nursery's outdoor area??

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socharlotte · 02/12/2012 00:05

have any of you read the OP? Her kids were doing water pla outside in very cold temperatures and their hands were red raw.
Snow suits, waterproofs and thermals are not going to pevent that.Water play outside in freezing conditions is wrong.

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Fairyegg · 02/12/2012 00:05

Yabu op, but I think deep down you know that. Buy them some decent outdoor gear. athinginyourlife your posts don't make sense to me. We have hardy 2 pennies to rub together hence the kids have decent outdoor clothes. We can't afford soft play areas, sea zoos etc so we do lots of walking in the woods, trips to the beach, feeding the Ducks, going to the park etc.

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AThingInYourLife · 02/12/2012 00:13

"your park have a micro climate that has different weather to your local nursery's outdoor area??"

Nope, but my home has this amazing technology called windows that allow me to use the power of sight to see that it is raining and decide not to go until it stops.

And if I'm in the park and it's a bit nippy, my toddler has developed an extraordinary facility whereby she tells me that she is cold and wants to go home.

I didn't say that nurseries should not ever let children outdoors in winter.

Just that there should be no requirement to send them in dressed for a hike in sleet.

That means that if the weather is especially unpleasant (which never lasts long in our changeable climate) the children can stay indoors rather than go out.

It won't do them any harm Wink

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AThingInYourLife · 02/12/2012 00:16

"Snow suits, waterproofs and thermals are not going to pevent that.Water play outside in freezing conditions is wrong."

She should buy them diving gloves presumably, because being indoors makes toddlers die.

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HazeltheMcWitch · 02/12/2012 00:40

Oddly, Aldi have their snow/cold weather stuff coming out today voila

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UrgentSubconsciousDemandsBacon · 02/12/2012 00:43

I read it. Water play outside at this time of year is stupid.

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UrgentSubconsciousDemandsBacon · 02/12/2012 00:44

rofl @ diving gloves Grin

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baublesandbaileys · 02/12/2012 00:54

I read the OP too

the OPs solution to them doing water play was to ask the nursery to "keep them inside until spring" not to ask them to just not do water play until spring!

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5madthings · 02/12/2012 01:11

Aldi.have snowsuits for £9:99 and gloves proper thick.ski.type ones for £2:99.

We go out in all weathers, given the damp misersble weather in the uk.you would have a lot of days when you never went to the park.if you stayed in when it was raining/cold/damp.

Even if its not raining when you go.out it us often still wet from the rsin, frost, dew etv. My kids dont moan they are cold as they have appropriate clothing! Tho.ds2 would wear shorts and t-shirt all year round regardless.

Get a snowsuit that is big and it lasts for two years, they dont get worn.out so can.be handed down to siblings or sold on ebay or gumtree etc.

Water play even in the cold is fine, mine love leaving various containers of water out overnight for it to freeze and then they play with the frozen shape. As soom as it gets properly cold we will be filling balloons with water and food colouring and leaving them outside to freeze. It make big ice marbles!! Fab fun.

Sorry but in the uk you cant stay in when its wet/cold all the time and its a crap attitude ti have. Being outside in the fresh air and getting some exercise is good for us!

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DingDongKethryverilyonHigh · 02/12/2012 01:21

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DayShiftDoris · 02/12/2012 02:53

YANBU

They left very young children in wet clothes... REGARDLESS of what the OP had left in the way of spare clothes the nursery surely had some?

And outdoor play is one thing but WATER play? I suggest that some of the adults on here take themselves out in the morning to play in some water and see how much fun it is when you can no longer feel your hands and they are bright red with cold.

Padded, waterproof ski gloves... are you all serious?? These are 3yr olds with developing fine motor skills how will they do anything? My 8yr old cant even clip the dog lead on in his or do his coat up and he even struggles to hold the dog lead!

OP... I would be furious! Perhaps not keep them in until spring though lol!

All children are different... I have one that has always seemed to need a layer less than other kids or will overheat but if he gets too cold, especially his hands it happens VERY quickly and it affects him very badly.

If the twin who was 'unwell' with the cold continues it might be worth popping him along to the GP - a friend of mine has a twin with Raynards that was diagnosed very young but if I am honest I don't know how he presented when he had it.

Just carry out sensible parenting OP and expect the nursery to sensible too... if they are not then a bit of a word might be in order.

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Sirzy · 02/12/2012 06:02

Just a small point but I very much doubt the children had their hands held in the water while they were forced to play in it!

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AThingInYourLife · 02/12/2012 07:43

"Just a small point but I very much doubt the children had their hands held in the water while they were forced to play in it!"

Confused

These children are toddlers!

The fact that they will allow themselves to get freezing cold and wet playing outdoors in water doesn't mean it is a good idea for them to do it.

Shit, we wouldn't need nurseries in the first place if children of that age could be left to their own devices with no ill effects.

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Sirzy · 02/12/2012 07:47

Cold hands won't do them any harm if it's for a short amount of time though. If the child isn't distressed by it it's not a major issue as long as the staff make sure they dry their hands properly after (which I know it seems didn't happen in this case but that's a different issue)

Do you not let your children play out in the snow incase their hands get cold?

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Fairyegg · 02/12/2012 08:33

Athinginyourlife are you seriously saying that if you look out of the window and it's raining you don't go out? Has your toddler never experience jumping in all the puddles as it raining heavily, or a strong wind blowing in his/her face, or the feeling of snow on their hands? Are you that adaptable that as soon as your toddler says its cold you go home? What about if your out with other people, or need to get other things done? Would it not be easier to buy some decent outdoor clothes rather than let the weather dictate yours and your child's lifes? After all I reckon it's going to be pretty cold, and no doubt wet for a fair few months now Confused

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AThingInYourLife · 02/12/2012 08:52

"Athinginyourlife are you seriously saying that if you look out of the window and it's raining you don't go out?"

No, I'm seriously saying nothing of the kind.

Can't you read?

The argument I'm having is that it shouldn't be necessary to send a child to nursery in gore-tex because they are going to be dumped outside playing with water in all weathers.

My children have good outdoor gear because we like walking and love going out in the rain.

We go out every day because I can't bear being in the house with a toddler who needs to get out.

But I'm not an idiot, of course I look out the window to see what the weather is like and make my plans accordingly.

Sometimes getting suited aand booted and splashing around in puddles is the way forward, other days we wait 5 minutes until the rain has passed and then go out in our regular street coats.

Part of loving the outdoors is understanding and responding to the weather.

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