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Lexie1970 · 26/10/2012 13:23

I park my car on a side street near the station so I don't have to pay the parking.

Several times somebody has written this isn't a car park, use a car park etc on the window with a glass pen so it does come off.

Last night had message scrawled again and on this occasion the perpetrator has let some air out of the tyre, or to give benefit of doubt it is a coincidence.

I now wish to leave a note basically stating that the road is a public highway, my car is taxed and insured and you don't have the right to park on your street unless it is a private road.

My car is gone by 5.00pm and I do get that it is annoying that you can't park outside your house, but equally you could have a neighbour with 3 cars and there would still be issues with parking.

DP thinks I should report to police as the 'writer' is causing criminal damage where I am actually legally parked.....

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carabos · 26/10/2012 20:23

We live in a side street near a station and have commuters park in our road. We also live 500 yds from a school. We are terraced houses with no drives. You can imagine the parking situation.

However, the road is the public highway and anyone can park there just as long as they like. There is no way I would take any action against anyone under those circs unlike NDN who gets car rage if anyone other than him dares to park anywhere he hasn't personally approved.

YANBU

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ICantFindAFreeNickName · 26/10/2012 20:24

Our house is a 10 min walk from the station, so we are used to people parking on our street. I don't mind that too much, what I do object to is that a nearby company have started giving their wokers a bonus if they are green and cycle, walk or use public transport to get to work. Our road is now full of people who park outside our house and walk to their office 5 mins away!
I would love residents parking, but our council is not keen on it.

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StanleyLambchop · 26/10/2012 20:42

Residents parking schemes are only really fair if they apply to every single street. Otherwise you get residents in one area who have permits going to visit someone in another area that does not- where do they park? Outside of some other buggers house!!! They are all right Jack because they know they can park outside their own house as they have a permit, but it does not stop them parking freely everywhere else. So it should be every street or none at all so it is a level playing field. YANBU, BTW. I cannot believe the police advised you to park somewhere else. You are doing nothing wrong!!

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DixieD · 26/10/2012 20:53

See I never understand residents getting their knickers in a twist about parking. Assuming its legal and not enfringing on anyone's drive then what exactly are they hoping to achieve by leaving snotty notes? Even if you get that particular driver to stop, then someone else will just take that space, especially if you live close to something like a station.
What's the point in stressing yourself out over something you won't change, at least not the way they are going about it? My neighbours are like this and have tried to get me involved in the note leaving, shouting at people general madness. I just shrug and say I don't even notice people parking outside my house. Which I don't because I don't look out for it. Once you start letting something like this annoy you, it's all you'll see.

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vigglewiggle · 26/10/2012 21:07

The police officer is wrong- tab down to "Meaning of Damage" here

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Lexie1970 · 26/10/2012 21:20

viggle interesting point thank you :) the first police officer I spoke to pretty much said what this article says yet 2nd officer said it wasn't - one to bookmark I think!

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RunningInFlipflops · 26/10/2012 21:37

I can't stand the arses who park outside my house all day because they don't want to pay for station parking. I wish I had the guts to write notes, or even better, get out a large bunch of keys!

But in real life YANBU, you have the right to park on a public road. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for permit holders only though

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RillaBlythe · 26/10/2012 21:50

My parent used to live opposite a hospital, so every day the road was rammed with cars parking. They would park across our driveway, or sometimes ON our driveway. It was quite a narrow road so they would park on the pavement to save their paintwork, so pushchairs & our elderly neighbour with a Zimmer had to walk in the middle of the road. Fucking annoying.

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NotGoodNotBad · 26/10/2012 21:52

But Rilla, it's not really the same thing. OP was legally parked, not blocking anyone, not on the pavement, not on anyone's private property.

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noseymcposey · 26/10/2012 22:07

Seriously rilla? You want to get your keys out?

It irritates me when people say that it's 'cheeky' to park on a public highway just because it's outside someones house. Do you think anyone in their right mind would pay £1500 year that they aren't obliged to (especially in the current climate) just incase someone who lives near the station mistakenly thinks they own the road? Not many people can chuck >£100 down the toilet every month that they don't need to.

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noseymcposey · 26/10/2012 22:08

Apologies Rilla obviously it was flipflops with the keys comment!

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difficultpickle · 26/10/2012 22:19

There is a road near the station which is full of commuters cars. It is apparently being changed to residents' parking, which I think is a good thing. I commute and park in one of the three station car parks (which one depends on what is available at the time I arrive). I think it must be horrible to not be able to park outside your house or even in your road because of lazy commuters. Car parking charges are a fact of life for most commuters outside London.

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RillaBlythe · 26/10/2012 22:20

Oh I was doing general parking moaning. I can start on the church attendees on my parents current road who make it impossible to pull into the road by the way they park across the corners next!

Is it illegal to park onto the pavement?

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Idocrazythings · 26/10/2012 22:21

I rarely can park in front of my house and usually end up in the next street, after school drop off. It is all the more frustrating whenidiots have badly parked and my car would have fitted grrrr

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fluffypillow · 26/10/2012 22:39

YABU. I'd be pissed off if you regularly parked outside my house, and I couldn't park there....anyone would be, wouldn't they?

You're being selfish as you know it bothers the residents, and you don't give a toss.

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RunningInFlipflops · 26/10/2012 22:59

Oh yes- definitely WANT to get my keys out! It's one of those unexplained rage things. Totally unreasonable I know.

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imperialstateknickers · 26/10/2012 23:16

To buy a season ticket to park here is £1200 a year. It's that or walk for 15 minutes. There's no station and no hospital causing this, just small town with a lot of wealthy retired residents and a greedy county council.

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TheBigJessie · 27/10/2012 00:31

NotGoodNotBad?

But they don't have a moral right to park there. They don't own the street outside their house.

You're conflating morality and legality. They have no legal right, as they do not own the street, but as you quoted me, I feel they have a greater moral right to the space.

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sashh · 27/10/2012 03:20

My car is gone by 5.00pm

What has that got to do with anything. The person who's house you park outside might work nights and come home to not being able to park every day.

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IvorHughJackolantern · 27/10/2012 08:32

viggle interesting point thank you the first police officer I spoke to pretty much said what this article says yet 2nd officer said it wasn't - one to bookmark I think!

I explained this in my first post way up the thread. I used to be an Initial Crime Investigator and my role was to audit police reports and make a decision as to whether an offence was recordable or not, something that depends upon the legal definition of the offence and Home Office Counting Rules.

Non permanent criminal damage is not a recordable offence. The pen and deflating the tyre is by definition non permanent because you can rectify both acts. However, if an act of non permanent damage results in you having to spend a significant amount of time and/or money rectifying it then it can be treated as permanent criminal damage and thus recorded and investigated.

Stuff like letting air out of tyres can be either, since it's negligible that pumping it up again takes a 'significant' amount of time, but it is at the discretion of the officer and Incident Manager. The police officer isn't 'wrong' to treat this is as criminal damage but his/her response is by no means guaranteed when something like this happens.

HTH.

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IvorHughJackolantern · 27/10/2012 08:36

Sorry; meant 'the police officer isn't 'wrong' not to treat this as criminal damage'.

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MikeLitorisBites · 27/10/2012 09:00

We have resident permit parking and still can't park outside the house most days.

We live on a terraced st so knew we didnt have a designated space when we moved in.

Yanbu op.

I would leave a note inside the car advised you have reported to the police.

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ConfusedKiwi · 27/10/2012 09:43

Yanbu but if the individual is prepared to let down your tires then you probably aren't going to be successful with a note.

In my previous job employees would often park on the side streets near our office since we were on a main road with no parking and a very limited space beneath the office. There was one particular resident who had an issue with this and scratched cars, put difficult to remove stickers all over the windscreen and used to regularly call our office and the police to complain about illegal parking. Due to the things she did that the police were called by our staff and she was spoken to but it didn't make any difference - Unfortunately they couldn't charge her regarding the scratching and other damage as there was no evidence it was definitely her...we ended up advising staff just to avoid parking outside no's x - x on x street.

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Ilovesunflowers · 27/10/2012 09:46

I used to live near a station and it annoyed me that people would use my street all the time for parking. I sometimes popped home at lunchtime to not be able to find a space anywhere near my house (making a popping quickly home impossible).

Think of it from their point of view and maybe alternate where you park. I understand not wanting to pay expensive station parking but maybe use different streets and walk a bit further occasionally?

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