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To think if someone raped & murdered my children I would want themto face the death sentence?

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Argos · 29/09/2011 18:30

Would you?

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PeachyWhoCannotType · 29/09/2011 19:28

See rhino that strikes me as rather.... one dimensional

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MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 29/09/2011 19:29

If someone killed any member of my family I wouldn't want them to get the death penalty. I'd want them to suffer agonies and be cut off from all human contact for the rest of their natural life. Which is why I would be the wrong person to make that decision.

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booyhoo · 29/09/2011 19:32

what callmemrs said onpg1.

OP woul you supportthe deah penalty if someon else's child was raped ad murdered, what about if they were raped butnot murdered or murdered butnot raped? wha if itwasn't a child but a woman,one you didn'tknow? how shakeable arethese principles of yours?

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mayorquimby · 29/09/2011 19:36

In fairness I'd probably want someone who burgled my house or beat up my mum to face the death penalty. Precisely why victims of crime should not be involved in the sentencing or punishment.

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begonyabampot · 29/09/2011 19:42

If anyone hurt anyone in my family in this way I'd want them dead and probably tortured first even though generally I don't believe in the death penalty which is why victims and the families of victims don't get to decide the punishment. I think these people deserve to die but the justice system isn't infallible and fair for all. I am bit sceptical of those who say that their anti death penalty position wouldn't change, you don't know how you would react.

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flyingspaghettimonster · 29/09/2011 19:47

I would want them to go to prison for a long time, and then, afterwards, be released, after having been treated to the full force of prison justice for years, so that I could hunt them down and kill them myself. But, if we are talking all of the kids, then what is left to live for? I never understood how anyone can survive losing all their kids - if there is a surviving child then you have no choice, but when I read of car wrecks or one parent murdering the kids it makes me think suicide is the only option to deal with it :-(

What a depressing subject.

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thisisyesterday · 29/09/2011 19:48

peachy... wow!
i have just read the whole of that link and I am just... I am disgusted and shocked, but ultimately just terribly sad that a life could be taken like that.

how awful Sad

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LadyBeagleEyes · 29/09/2011 19:51

My last post on this thread, because it's so fucking sad and I agree with flying.
I only have one son but i wouldn't want to live either.

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begonyabampot · 29/09/2011 19:53

This whole thread, especially the title is quite nasty and sick actually. You could have had the same discussion about the death penalty without being so descriptive and insensitive.

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PeachyWhoCannotType · 29/09/2011 19:55

TIY I know

I was glad I read it, but in a 'need to know the relaity' sort of way. It's horrible. His poor parents; lost their grandkids and then their son- and I wonder how his ex W now feels?

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ChaoticAngeloftheUnderworld · 29/09/2011 19:58

If someone raped and murdered my child I wouldn't want them to face the death penalty.

I'd want them to be put into the general prison population with all the prisoners knowing what they'd done.

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thisisyesterday · 29/09/2011 19:59

and the board who refused his petition at the end... they didn't even read through the new evidence. i mean wtf??? how can that even happen? it's just so terrible

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crazynanna · 29/09/2011 20:05

My dd1 was sexually abused from ages 5 to 9.
I do not believe in the death penalty. It's barbaric to me.
However..I do believe the sentencing in this country is actually comical.
I definitly want realistic sentencing..no matter the cost...and not the pissing 15 months (7 and a half in reality) that the bastard got for ruining my girl's childhood Angry

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Shutupanddrive · 29/09/2011 20:06

What a horrible thread
I don't want to even think about what I would do in those circumstances
Biscuit

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Shutupanddrive · 29/09/2011 20:07

crazynanna Sad for you

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PeachyWhoCannotType · 29/09/2011 20:07

I think some of Grisham's book The Confession is based on some of that case, big parallels,, makes sense as he works on the Innocence Commission mentioned. His book The Innocent Man (not a noel, only non fiction he's done) is pretty horrid reading as well.

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PeachyWhoCannotType · 29/09/2011 20:09

Craxy that makes snse na di agree (And hugs), my friends ex was done for sex trafficking and got 2 years, out in half that, skipped straight to Thailand, vanished, and is now wanted by interpol.

pathetic.

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crazynanna · 29/09/2011 20:14

Thank you for the kindness friends Smile
She's 25 now and married with 3 beauties of her own
She's doing just fine.
He wasn't going to take her adulthood too.

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PeachyWhoCannotType · 29/09/2011 20:17

Well done your dd, you must be proud

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QuietNinjaFotherMucker · 29/09/2011 20:18

We need harsher sentences all round and life should be life. Though I'm with Hecate if someone did that to my child I'd want to go after them myself. I probably wouldn't be allowed but I'd really really want to.

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crazynanna · 29/09/2011 20:21

Very proud,Peachy...and relieved Smile

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Quintessentialist · 29/09/2011 20:21

They should face justice in a court of law. On principle, I am against death penalty, and I am against taking the law into my own hands.

How I felt, well, it is besides the point.
Like Strandedbear, it would be my death sentence.

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babytantrums · 29/09/2011 22:53

I used to think that this was a cut and dried subject for me - no I do not agree with the death penalty.

While I have no experience of anyone related to me being murdered, when I was much younger, someone broke into my flat and raped my sister (who was staying with me for the night) and me. He was caught and spent a paltry 7 years in prison. I will NEVER get over the complete and utter fear that he was going to murder her in front of me - never mind the fact that she was lying on the bed beside me while that animal abused her.

When he was caught, I remember being very angry with my father who said he 'wanted 5 mins in a room with him'. I just thought it was ridiculous as nothing was ever going to wipe the experience. I wish to God that I could ask him what the bloody hell made him do it (it was a first offence) Did it give him the high that he needed? Did he realise or care that he ruined 2 young girls' lives and affected their families forever?

I went to the hearing (he was pleading guilty, so no trial, which meant fewer years in prison) and he was asked if he wanted to say anything and he said, in a monotone - no expression - that he wanted to apologise to his victims. No, he wanted a shorter sentence..

I digress... I still don't agree with the death penalty. However, I now have a DD and if what happened to me and my sister happened to her (or God forbid, worse), I'm just not sure. I never knew it was possible to feel more protective of someone than I did of my sister (who is younger) that night. What I do know is that I would like them to suffer - but that isn't necessarily the death penalty. There was also incontrovertible evidence against my attacker - I could absolutely never agree to someone dying unless there was no doubt - remember 'The Life of David Gale'?

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Morloth · 29/09/2011 23:00

If someone raped and murdered my children I would use every resource I had to have them tortured as brutally and as long as possible before having them killed.

I would then ensure that the world knew what I had done and why by having the noisiest trial I possibly could.

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theoldtrout01876 · 30/09/2011 00:46

Ive got no problem with it.kill the fckers,do society a favor,get em out the gene pool

Ive got no problem with the death sentence for some crimes,they just sit on deathrow suckin up our tax dollars too long in my opinion

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