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AIBU?

I over reacted didn't I?

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:22

DS1 has had 2 days filming at this school after being picked for a part in a channel 4 production.

So I gave him my trust and allowed him to go.

Last night the filming ended at 6.15pm he got home around 6.40.

Tonight he was meant to go from school straight to my mums which is about the same distance from school to home.

At 6.45 I called the school to see if filmong had finished to be told it was over running by an hr 45minutes. So I thought it would be safer for me to meet him, left home and got to the school at 7.30.

Waited a while and no sign of DS1, tried his phone and no answer. So called mum who said she had just spoken to him and had told him to come back to me. Waited a few minutes and still no sign of him so phoned him again and he told me that he couldn't be bothered to come back.

I told him he had no choice but to come back.
I walked up the road he told me he was at the other end of to me, and there was no sign so I called him again and he told me he was at the pther end now. I walked back down it and was halfway when I called him and said you have not passed me so where are you. He said again he was at the other end of the road to me and was outside his school.

I crossed over the road and as I did looked to my left and there running out of a VERY dodgy estate was DS1. I am ashamed to admit I did yell at him to move his backside.

This estate is very bad, drug deals take place there, it is muggers paradise it is awful. I am furious as he had no need to be there.

I then took him to my mums myself as I was so angry with him and all the way he was telling me I was an embarrassment, had no right to go near his school, Should not have gone to his school, needed to let him live his life etc. This went on until we got to my mums and he then started with the attitude to her.

I have told him and my mum that I don't care who asks him over the next few days while he is with her, that he is not under any circumstances allowed to go out with the other children in the family unless an adult is with them as he has again proven he cannot be trusted to be where he is meant to be.

I must add this is not the first time he has done a disappearing act. But he has recently been chatting to a girl on FB who I have to say I disapprove of, when she is sending him messages that 12yr old girls should NOT be sending and I have told him he is to have nothing to do with her.


So AIBU to stop him going out without an adult and to also take his expensive phone away from him and give him a more basic one. Until he can prove he is trustworthy.

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izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 01/06/2011 02:58

IMO, given all of the circumstances, you didn't overreact and your anger is entirely understandable because it arose from fear.

You are walking a very fine line between equipping your ds for independence while endeavouring to keep him safe, and it's only natural that you should err on the side of caution when it comes to his personal safety.

This obvously isn't the first time that your ds has broken your trust and, unfortunately, it's unlikely to be the last time that you find yourself in conflict with him.

When you have got over this shock and are feeling completely calm, sit down with your ds and explain (again) that trust must be earned, and that any breach will have consequences which may not be to his liking but, nevertheless, will happen.

After you've got some feedback from him (and have had lots of cuddles and a couple of foodie treats), draw up a contract that sets out your joint expectations of what is appropriate behaviour for young people embarking on the road to adulthood and covering such areas as helping with household chores, personal cleanliness, getting up and coming home on time (if any of these are an issue), pocket money (and the withdrawal thereof), etc.

Once you've both signed the contract, refer to it constantly and never lose any opportunity to praise (and reward where appropriate) your ds for adhering to it. Also ensure that everyone involved in your son's care reinforces the message and the boundaries.

I've no doubt that you've travelled a long and sometimes lonely road since your ds was diagnosed and you've got some rocky times ahead, but don't ever lose heart because you'll get there even if your only aid is a long stick with a carrot dangling from the end.

BTW regardless of whether your ds is gong to that notorious estate where the police and Council staff only venture if mobhanded, it isn't safe for any child to be taking expensive mobile phones to and from school or anywhere they are not accompanied by an adult, particularly if they live in an inner-city area.

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startail · 01/06/2011 00:10

YANBU my daughter is 13 if I tell her she is coming home now she comes home now. She does not keep me hanging about and she does not walk home through somewhere I feel is unsafe. It will be exactly the same when she is 16.

I was very firmly brought up to the rule you will be home when you said you would be (no mobiles for excuses and I don't think they'd have been tolerated even if they had been). I never pushed it, no point, apart from my dad exploding, there would have been no money and no transport. Anyway, even if it annoyed me sometimes, it mostly made me feel loved and safe because my mates knew I meant it when I said no I'm not going to do X.

We live even further out in the sticks so my DDs will have get very fit if they want to go anywhere Mum doesn't approve of.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 23:53

yuk, you tell me how to get close to him? believe me I have tried.

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yukoncher · 31/05/2011 23:49

Excuse me, I assumed he was the averag lil amost teenage rebel.

Didn't realise he had special needs like you describe.
Yes I would protect him, but still try to get closer to him rather than punishing.

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yukoncher · 31/05/2011 23:45

Eek, the boy may be pushed into feeling like he needs to escape even more so with overbearing controlling embarrasing parents.
Or you might 'save' him.

It's a gamble to know what to do.

Only advice I can give is to spend more time trying to get to know what's going through his head, why he wants to do this and that which may not be good for him, and explaining why you wanna protect him and having him trust you.
Alienating him and making him feel like he needs to keep things from you, will not end well!

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ohhappyday · 31/05/2011 23:36

Aw you don't come across as over protective at all. You sound like a brilliant mum who has prepared her son well. You are a lot more lenient than me - I would not have let my child travel on public transport alone at that age - no way - and my DS doesn't have SN. Ridiculous I know but I'm a lot better now. Stop beating yourself up and feeling like you have to justify your actions. Parenting is sooo difficult but you have done the right thing. My Mum would have clouted my ear SN or no SN. In fact it would have been a double the second one for talking back.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 23:27

I know I come across as over protective I wish I could give you all a snippet of DS1's life.
He is always telling me how these so called friends bully him, do I trust them not to hurt him? No not as far as I could throw them.
These are the kids he has got in with since school started back in January.
I am protective of him as I know how easily led he is. I am not being this way just to be mean.

I give him small steps to reach in prepreration for bigger steps. Like when I first let him go to school alone, I did it in steps. The first 2 days I took him all the way, the next 2 I took him to the bus stop where he got off, then I got off half way, then took him just to the bus stop where he got on, evenntually letting him go to and from school alone. This is not done to belittle him but to actually help him.

When he first went and came home alone he ended up phoning me from the school he is now in (had to change his secondary after a month due to severe bullying) crying because he was in the wrong place and panicking.

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ohhappyday · 31/05/2011 23:13

Hi TLE I get what you are doing - building up the responsibility, letting him get to and from school etc. He is only 12 he is a kid. He does what he is told. No negotiation - he has to learn a lesson. You are so doing the right thing - teaching your child to stay safe and also that there are consequences to bad behaviour. Sneaking out the back of school, going into an Estate where he has been told not to go etc it is just not on.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 23:03

Thingumy normally he goes to school and back and is mostly on time.
On a Friday he walks to my sisters and meets her at work to the be collected by my mum.

Today he decided at almost 8pm to play silly games.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:59

Mandy it is madness I know.

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Thingumy · 31/05/2011 22:58

If he has no sense of danger then why you have to remove the option of walking back from school/grans/'friends' alone until he can prove he be trustworthy and also remain safe.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:57

Worraliberty he has aspergers and ODD - oppositional defiance disorder. 2 very conflicting conditions. Plus hitting the teenage years.

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Mandy2003 · 31/05/2011 22:56

THIRTY YEARS to have been moving people out though? Isn't there a major, major campaign to get the situation resolved NOW?

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worraliberty · 31/05/2011 22:56

Excuse my ignorance but i thought people with Aspergers had trouble breaking rules and generally stick to them by the letter? Or does that just depend on the person?

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:54

Mandy, it is going to be demolished they are slowly moving people out of there.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:53

Mumbling, Sorry I didn't explain it properly.

He was meant to come out of the front gate of school straight to the bus stop - nowhere near the estate! He decided to go through the back gate and onto the estate.

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Mandy2003 · 31/05/2011 22:52

OMG I remember going there in about 1981 as I had a mate who was squatting there prior to demolition!!! Is it still standing? People still have to live there?

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:51

Ok, I will explain.

DS1 has not got any friends he has a few children who he talks to, but these really are not friends.

Yes he is 12 but really has no sense of danger. It was asked of him what he would do if someone asked him (implying a grown up in this scenario) to go and see their collection of Dr who memorabilia (SP) and his reply was "I'd go" so it was then asked of him what he would do if that person tried to get him into their home and his reply was " I wouldn't go I'd ask them to bring it out".

He really has no sense of danger, as unbelievable as that may seem it is true.

Amber, if he did have friends I would still not want him on the estate it is terrible. I am 36 and would not walk through there alone.

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MumblingRagDoll · 31/05/2011 22:49

Lady if I lived near that estate I would not be letting my son walk home at 6.40 to my Mums. I would be collecting him. Therein lies your trouble.

6.15 is not 3.30 when all the other kids are walking home...it's early evening.

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Thingumy · 31/05/2011 22:48

sod the facebook account.

He'll live without it.

Not sure why taking away a expensive phone will help-any basic phone with credit will be used if a teen wants to chat or text.

Guess you need to start to lay down solid ground rules and stick with them.

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amberleaf · 31/05/2011 22:44

Do his school friends live on the estate?

If so then what exactly is wrong with him being there?

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cannydoit · 31/05/2011 22:38

yes that is all he is 12 not 8. if you keep on like this you will just make him lie to you all the time. you also really cant stop him seeing people that he wants to again he will just lie to you about it especially if its a girl he likes.

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ohhappyday · 31/05/2011 22:38

YADNBU - He totally disobeyed you I would have been furious. He gets the phone etc back when he can prove he can be trusted. I would also be considering removing the computer (this would also solve your face book issue).

You must have been worried sick. I know how you feel, honestly I do

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TheLadyEvenstar · 31/05/2011 22:37

These are facts taken from a site.

It is the largest housing estate in Europe.

is considered the most notorious estate in the United Kingdom

The 2,700 dwellings were designed to house a population of roughly 10,000 residents,

However as old tenants moved out and new tenants came in, the estate went through a period of decline in the 1980s. The area is now considered to be in the bottom category on the ACORN classification for inner city adversity, signifying an area of extremely high social disadvantage.[3] Crime is highly prevalent in parts of the estate with the Guardian newspaper recently reporting a crime taking place every four hours

On Boxing Day 2007, a resident was shot in the communal garden by the Chartridge building of the estate: disappointment was expressed that the body had lain undiscovered for more than 24 hours

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